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Originally Posted by gertruude View Post

wow thats some change

what did ya do? just added dedicated 460 to physics?

It was a score from back in December. I had forgotten about even running it to be honest. Then I started snooping through the highest scores on the ORB for 3d11 , paying attention to the physics scores, cpu clocks and if it was an AMD card or Nvidia card. After doing so it appeared the Nvidia's had an advantage at the same cpu clocks, so armed with that realization, I began to suspect there is some physics offloading to the gpu that happens with systems having an Nvidia card. I then wondered if I had bothered to run 3d11 when I had an Nvidia card in my MSI rig. I searched my results and lo and behold, a monster physics score awaited me there.
I have since sold that 460 and upgraded to a 7870 for that rig. The physics scores are much lower with the AMD card in the same rig at nearly the same cpu clocks.
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So much for that "you've got to optimize" crap I have been reading for months...yeah...got it...optimize. No wait buy an nvidia card....OK off my high horse now.
 
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Wow, I was actually right about something for once lol. Check out a physics score from my MSI rig when it had a 460 GTX paired with it http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/5190294

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Freezing wont be an issue with mine, not running sub freezing temps just running 25C-30C temps maybe a little lower and the conditioner doesnt run 24/7 just when the temp rises. Your other ideas have the bigger issue which is what mine cancels out: Ambient air temp. If you're cooling your water loop below ambient the cooling system will sweat, pulling any humidity out of the ambient air. Being that mine is enclosed that is not an issue. You don't want water of any form loose in your case. My case, should prob say cabinet, is a bit larger than most would need, I have both Mine and my fiancees computer inside. But it works better than well, it works absolutely outstanding. With some of these guys cooling solutions I have no doubt this would put thier OCs between LN2 and watercooled systems.

Love to discuss these kind of things. I have spents months contemplating and rationalizing the idea. I am sure I havent thought of everything, so keep the questions coming. lol.

Of course my new idea for a radiator is really tantalizing.

again i dont want this to head the wrong way. i am trying to help you

ALL AC coils CAN freeze. all has nothing to do with running sub zero temps in the case. i am talking long term useage. not short term. if the coil gets blocked. if the charge gets low ( leak ) all WILL cause freezing. even if you some how managed to get a perfectly sealed unit that let in zero moisture you still can damage the comp by slugging it which again will cause your box to start over heating. ambient temp does not reflect the temp of the copper in the coil nor the temp of the refrigerant.

lets get off the acctuall freezing issue your fan could go out on the ac.

which is why i was saying you will need something to monitor your pc


as far as the bold part i would not have a problem with ANY moisture as with an ac unit ( most commercial high rise buildings are cooled this way ) the coils feeding my case would be removing the moisture entering my case, so there would not be a condensation problem. all that would be needed would be a ketch pan and a drain system. ( which is included in your air conditioner . )
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I was digging through my box of old work stuff and I found a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835213011.
Just chillin under a router. Gonna slap it on my arctic heatsink, kinda scared how loud it's gonna be at full though.
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post #13806 of 67356
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again i dont want this to head the wrong way. i am trying to help you

ALL AC coils CAN freeze. all has nothing to do with running sub zero temps in the case. i am talking long term useage. not short term. if the coil gets blocked. if the charge gets low ( leak ) all WILL cause freezing. even if you some how managed to get a perfectly sealed unit that let in zero moisture you still can damage the comp by slugging it which again will cause your box to start over heating. ambient temp does not reflect the temp of the copper in the coil nor the temp of the refrigerant.

lets get off the acctuall freezing issue your fan could go out on the ac.

which is why i was saying you will need something to monitor your pc


as far as the bold part i would not have a problem with ANY moisture as with an ac unit ( most commercial high rise buildings are cooled this way ) the coils feeding my case would be removing the moisture entering my case, so there would not be a condensation problem. all that would be needed would be a ketch pan and a drain system. ( which is included in your air conditioner . )
This last part isnt in fact how that would work real world. But any rate trust me, my sytem works great and most of the issues you brought up have been brought up by others which is why they arent an issue in my setup. Guess after I release it or build them you can see for yourself.
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What are your temps.. however I believe you are ok to push higher. you will need to up the voltage of the CPU to get more. I think 4.5 will net around 1.43-1.46v but do it one step at a time and watch your core temps
cool i will have to work on the timings a little bit more

on the bright side for my settings I now have 3 out of the 5 tops scores for 3d mark.. that 8000 with my setup is hard to get
I've been studying the top scores for the 8350's and It seems there might be some physics off loading to the gpu on systems with the Nvidia cards that makes for higher scores.
Anyone ever else seeing that or ever heard of this happening?

Yes, and for quite a while. Remember this?
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/733/1/

From An Legit Reviews Article Published June 25, 2008

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AMD and a number of other companies are worried that running the CPU physics test on the GPU will sku results and made the point that GPU physics testing is already done in the normal GPU tests. 3DMark does currently includes physics as simulation collision map rendering in the game tests, so their arguement is to leave things be.

We though it would be interesting to get comments from NVIDIA and Futuremark on the cheating claims that The Inq. brought to light, so we got official on the record answers from both companies. First, we got in touch with Oliver Baltuch, the President of Futuremark and asked him to answer a few questions. We figured that it would be best to go straight to the source of the benchmark to see if we could figure things out............


The article can be had here:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/733/1/
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http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6554937

Finally made it over 8000 woot!

not sure why my physics score went down.. im sooo confused I almost had 9000

You can do much better with that CPU.
 
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You can do much better with that CPU.

I think my windows install has bad srttings im playing around and was going to post results as i figure out what was causing it
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Yeah I dont' think my 3D Mark 11 score is as high as it should be either...ideas?
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6556477
I mean I guess it isn't bad, but that physics score seems really low, even with using and AMD card.
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