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I been meaning to fill out the club form, but I can't seem to get a accurate memory reading. I've run multiple long duration blend an know my ram is stable and could probably go even higher. Mostly I see people using maxxmem on these forums... I've tried 2 versions and they give completely different results each time, secondly only one version was able to detect any of my hardware. Earlier I saw someone post opening chrome helped their score and I thought that was silly but I couldn't resist trying it and it gave me 5-10% higher scores with chrome open.

I took it a step further and tested it with my minecraft server up and populated, score went up more. So I tested it someone standing by a zombie spawner and it reduced my score drastically as did benching with litecoin mining 2xgpus. It would appear that programs reserving ram is raising my score while programs moving a lot obviously still lowers it. Or maybe I'm overanalyzing random recurring flukes.

Sisandra gives me the same 20.1gb/s @ 53ns each time and that seems too high where memaxx seems too low.

Spent a lot of time tweaking and testing my ram at this point - 8-9-9-24-7-5-7-7-14-300-33-1T with cpu/NB @ 2571

My old version of maxxmem = 10,000-13,000 copy, 9000-11,000 read, 4,000-6,500 write
maxxmem 1.99 = 13,500-16,000 copy, 12,000-14,000 copy, 8,000-8,400 write <- this version detects my timings except command rate.

Here's my best score with 12 chrome windows and 4 people on my minecraft server.


Leads me to think maxxmem is factoring my systems total ram vs how fast it can move the amount that's actually available to calculate score.
Or I could have a tinfoil hat on and hardware detection issue.

Update : Idea led to logical explanation for chrome = priority and core affinity. Score is lower and chrome trick doesn't work with maxxmem at high priority. This may have happend after I applied the win7 fx hotfix. Guess that means sisandra is probably right.
Edited by Vencenzo - 5/13/13 at 8:41am
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as far as the bold any 1st year apprentice knows how bad short cycling is 10-15 seconds is not long enough and you WILL burn out your compressor. with out questions. very few compressors can take a beating like that LET ALONE a WINDOW AC simply put they are not designed for this it may even last a couple months or years but for the long term it will fail.

....

i can confirm this i was farmer cheesemaker (lot of things to cool down) and even "pro" compressors dont like too short cycles
fe with an objective of 18°c using short cycles (25sec aproximativly) i ve had 3 toasted compressors (1 year use each)....more long cycles with same material (1 minute minimum) and after 6 years the compressor is still ok...perhaps a bad luck serie but i dont think so

i ve stopped the activity and i ve think several times to convert some of the material in a PC freezer but tbh...it had eat too much energy and i m scared by ice, condensation, noise...+ i m not a pro biggrin.gif

@Durq: i d be very interrested to see pictures of this if it work...can make me change my mind...who know tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by Rangerjr1 View Post

Guys, i managed to stabalize my 2400 RAM. It turns out that CPUNB over 2500 and tRAS at anything under 31 makes me bsod and crash programs etc all the time.

Im now running at 10-12-10-32 2400.
gratz dude. I know how frustrating memory can be.

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Originally Posted by UncleBlitz View Post

i can confirm this i was farmer cheesemaker (lot of things to cool down) and even "pro" compressors dont like too short cycles
fe with an objective of 18°c using short cycles (25sec aproximativly) i ve had 3 toasted compressors (1 year use each)....more long cycles with same material (1 minute minimum) and after 6 years the compressor is still ok...perhaps a bad luck serie but i dont think so

i ve stopped the activity and i ve think several times to convert some of the material in a PC freezer but tbh...it had eat too much energy and i m scared by ice, condensation, noise...+ i m not a pro biggrin.gif

@Durq: i d be very interrested to see pictures of this if it work...can make me change my mind...who know tongue.gif
. Time for compressor was a guess but I am not in control of its cycles just temp. At any rate the adaptation of the unit is sound and it is running now for about one month. I keep a close eye on it. It is a prototype and it will probably be some time before it I am ready to produce or offer it for sale.
As far as pictures, not much to see and I prefer not letting everyone in on the idea, not a new idea but like I said it works very well.
Also note that this is a small system that is being cooled not chilled. Stress on components is intentional on my part to be low. I was more concerned about dust and noise, both of which are better with this system. Also trying to keep energy use down. I know this raises a few issues with some, but some refuse to show respect and open their minds to the chance that those issues have been considered and minimalized. Not directed to you fine sir.
Edited by Durquavian - 5/13/13 at 10:02am
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Originally Posted by madorax View Post

Hello, I'm new here and like to join the club ^^

Last week I just upgrade my system to:
- FX-8320
- ASUS M5A97 R2.0
- Manli GTX 660
- Patriot Viper 3 2x4Gb 1866
- Xigmatek Tauro 500w (This is from my old rig using Trinity while i'm short on budget last year)


some basic question I'd like to ask:

- what is the stock Vcore & NB of 8320? because my ASUS using offset by default and the value always go up & down. I read the guide to overclocking (i'm not oc-ing yet) and it's say to use 1.35 in vcore and 1.25 on NB, is this the default stock?
- the chipsets in the middle between proc & PCIX slot feel very2 hot, different from the other chipsets near the SATA, is this normal? I even can't lay my finger about 10 second on that without hurting myself, even the proc is not that hot. but hwinfo or aida64 temp display is only around 35 'c on Motherboard, 40~42 'c on CPU (idle, around 55 'c if I'm using 100% CPU like prime95. yes i'm still use that stock cooler, I think the cooler is cool at first because of the pipe, turn out i'm wrong...~_~).
- what is the max temp that i have to maintain if I try to oc later after i buy some good cooler? usually its below 65 'c for the old Phenom, is vishera same with phenom?
- in hwinfo or aida64 temp info, what temp should i look? the CPU temp or the CPU#core1 ~ core8 temp?


since I'm new in vishera I need to know the basic first right? smile.gif

Welcome, this is the exact same mobo and cpu I had previously to upgrading. I successfully ran it stable at 4.5ghz at 1.4vcore 1.2v cpu/nb. 2200mhz nb and 2400mhz HT, this board wont do 2600. Make sure to set your ram at 1.55v as its under volted on this motherboard.
I have ran a cpu @ 4.8 1.525v on this board under closed loop water but the temps were too high. I think due to weak north bridge that would be just so hot I couldnt lay a finger on it.


Later i upgraded to another 8350 and Asus Crosshair V formula-z. It was a huge upgrade..maybe down the road u can get that sweet mobo as well I highly recommend it.

You want to stay under 72c for the socket CPU temp and under 62c for the core temp. A lot of times you will run into an issue as to where your core temp is around 45 but your socket temp over 70. By putting a small fan blowing air onto the Northbridge you lower the socket temps by 10c.

Also if your case can fit 280mm rad get Corssair H110.
Edited by p2mob - 5/13/13 at 10:20am
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Originally Posted by p2mob View Post

Welcome, this is the exact same mobo and cpu I had previously to upgrading. I successfully ran it stable at 4.5ghz at 1.4vcore 1.2v cpu/nb. 2200mhz nb and 2400mhz HT, this board wont do 2600. Make sure to set your ram at 1.55v as its under volted on this motherboard.
I have ran a cpu @ 4.8 1.525v on this board under closed loop water but the temps were too high. I think due to weak north bridge that would be just so hot I couldnt lay a finger on it.


Later i upgraded to another 8350 and Asus Crosshair V formula-z. It was a huge upgrade..maybe down the road u can get that sweet mobo as well I highly recommend it.

You want to stay under 72c for the socket CPU temp and under 62c for the core temp. A lot of times you will run into an issue as to where your core temp is around 45 but your socket temp over 70. By putting a small fan blowing air onto the Northbridge you lower the socket temps by 10c.

Also if your case can fit 280mm rad get Corssair H110.

There is no official max temp for socket as far as i know smile.gif
62C is the max to run 24/7 i really dont mind running this into the 70-80s for benchmarks

what issue is this core temp 45 but socket temp over 70c?

that sounds to me like there's a HS seating thats gone wrong.... tongue.gif
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There is no official max temp for socket as far as i know smile.gif
62C is the max to run 24/7 i really dont mind running this into the 70-80s for benchmarks

what issue is this core temp 45 but socket temp over 70c?

that sounds to me like there's a HS seating thats gone wrong.... tongue.gif

that was under prime95...So its safe for me to run prime95 and keep socket temps around 70-80c?
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that was under prime95...So its safe for me to run prime95 and keep socket temps around 70-80c?

thats a pretty huge issue, id of checked the thermal paste and seating of a HS yes

Is Prime a benchmark? rolleyes.gif

Edit.....I meant 70-80 on the core temp for benchmarks not the socket temp
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thats a pretty huge issue, id of checked the thermal paste and seating of a HS yes

Is Prime a benchmark? rolleyes.gif

No need for that that set up is gone, now i have v forumla-z and 8350 at stock due to sh***y power supply temps are not exceeding 35c core and 45c socket under prime. soo yeah hopefully soon will get a nice psu and run this beast at 5.0ghz wink.gif
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thats a pretty huge issue, id of checked the thermal paste and seating of a HS yes

Is Prime a benchmark? rolleyes.gif

Edit.....I meant 70-80 on the core temp for benchmarks not the socket temp

if your core temp is 80c then your socket must be in 90s LOL


edit:// sorry for a double post
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Guys, i managed to stabalize my 2400 RAM. It turns out that CPUNB over 2500 and tRAS at anything under 31 makes me bsod and crash programs etc all the time.

Im now running at 10-12-10-32 2400.

Nice, ram is pain to optimize. I'm happy with mine now too.
I'm surprised F3ers is using those 1866/9cas sticks for his current mhz and timings.
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