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Sweet. I'm really excited about Steamroller. the first CPU I bought (not owned) was a Phenom II X6 @ 2.8GHz, and while it was good for my compiling needs, I always found it a bit slow, even overclocked to hell (4.1Ghz). Then I bought the Vishera, mildly excited about it, not knowing what a recent CPU was like. I was/am surprised on how well it works even at stock.
My only experiences with Intel were Pentium 4 Prescott and some Celeron without cache (I forgot which it was), so I didnt really know how things were on the other side. I wasn't really sold on the Blue Team.

But now thanks to OCN and others, I am waiting for a CPU with a lot more knowledge than I had when I bought my first CPU, I know how things are and I know what I am expecting more precisely.

TL;DR:
I know what the techno-blabber means a lot more than before thanks to OCN, therefore I'm excited like a kid before Xmas about Steamroller. tongue.gif
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Since my reactions were "how would I do that?" and "wat?", I'd have to go with no.
Yes. Yes they do. *facepalm*
Thanks. Another useful program mentioned! smile.gif I'm gonna have to get around to trying these when I stop procrastinating on it.

So.... the shutoff thing happened again. I went through the BIOS when I started up the PC again, found an option called "Hardware Thermal Control" and disabled it. We'll see if that helps.

Oh, and I also tried turning down the voltage a notch. The PC froze solid when I was in Borderlands 2, had to reboot and swap it back to previous higher voltage.

excuse me but it has 8 rails of 12v http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256054

right on the first page
Quote:
1500W Maximum Power A maximum power of 1500W delivers safe, reliable output for even the most extreme computer systems. Eight industry-leading independent +12v rails are provided for more stable and safer power output.

and from the manufactures product page
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=226
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Reaching 1500W DC output (1600W peak), the Strider ST1500 is effectively at the limit of what an internal PC power supply can achieve in terms of wattage rating. For SilverStone, getting to this maximum power was only part of the goal for a consumer-level power supply so every desirable feature known were added to create a dream product. The list starts with unprecedented eight +12V rails with each capable of up to 25A and continues with features such as 100% modular cables, 80 PLUS Silver worthy efficiency ratings, and quietness level that matches most 500W PSUs. If there is one upgrade that will likely outlast a PC enthusiast’s interest in computing, the ST1500 may just be it.

you need to find out if you are drawing more then 25a from a single rail. your 5v 3.3v ect may be on a shared rail. i have not looked that far. but that is where i would start as it sounds to me like you may be tripping OCP however i get the feeling they have their own rails from the product description
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Hurricane. If you get that 680 id like to see you beat my ref 7970 with it smile.gif. (in 3dmark that is and heaven if you want)
 
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excuse me but it has 8 rails of 12v http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256054

right on the first page
and from the manufactures product page
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=226
you need to find out if you are drawing more then 25a from a single rail. your 5v 3.3v ect may be on a shared rail. i have not looked that far. but that is where i would start as it sounds to me like you may be tripping OCP however i get the feeling they have their own rails from the product description

Hmm... my mistake, sorry. It's been ages since I looked at the promotional material for this PSU.

OK, how would I measure the current in each rail?
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Sweet. I'm really excited about Steamroller. the first CPU I bought (not owned) was a Phenom II X6 @ 2.8GHz, and while it was good for my compiling needs, I always found it a bit slow, even overclocked to hell (4.1Ghz). Then I bought the Vishera, mildly excited about it, not knowing what a recent CPU was like. I was/am surprised on how well it works even at stock.
My only experiences with Intel were Pentium 4 Prescott and some Celeron without cache (I forgot which it was), so I didnt really know how things were on the other side. I wasn't really sold on the Blue Team.

But now thanks to OCN and others, I am waiting for a CPU with a lot more knowledge than I had when I bought my first CPU, I know how things are and I know what I am expecting more precisely.

TL;DR:
I know what the techno-blabber means a lot more than before thanks to OCN, therefore I'm excited like a kid before Xmas about Steamroller. tongue.gif

I went from an Athlon x2 3200+ to a 1100T and cut my teeth there overclocking guess 8350 was what steamroller will be for you.
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Hmm... my mistake, sorry. It's been ages since I looked at the promotional material for this PSU.

OK, how would I measure the current in each rail?

not a big deal your rails should be labeled on your inputs or in the manual
http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=226
downloads >> rail distribution guide
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Very High. But I can't find any consistent info about tubing size that works with what, and I am just lost looking at the amount of fittings. The rest of my custom loop is already chosen.
I was wondering, what did you change in it? Can't do wrong with a D5 and bay reservoir fits my style.

Ah yeah i forgot the newer versions had the D5......I had the old version and the res/pump sucked
You'll be happy with the D5 pump its pretty good.
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Since my reactions were "how would I do that?" and "wat?", I'd have to go with no.
Yes. Yes they do. *facepalm*
Thanks. Another useful program mentioned! smile.gif I'm gonna have to get around to trying these when I stop procrastinating on it.

So.... the shutoff thing happened again. I went through the BIOS when I started up the PC again, found an option called "Hardware Thermal Control" and disabled it. We'll see if that helps.

Oh, and I also tried turning down the voltage a notch. The PC froze solid when I was in Borderlands 2, had to reboot and swap it back to previous higher voltage.

I'm not sure that it's a good idea to turn off the thermal control. I'm not a gigabyte owner, but I believe that is what protects your board and cpu from damage due to overheating. If so, it would be risky to run without it.

What have your temp monitoring programs been telling you? In my opinion, there isn't an air cooling solution that will keep the 83XX series within its thermal envelope above 4.7 ghz or so when pushing it hard.

Don't want to burn up a good chip, Good luck smile.gif

EDIT:
As to your question about amprage - I believe if your 12 volt rail is rated at 25 amps it will handle a load of 300 watts. There is a lot of debate about how much power the vishera's use, but It could indeed be getting close to that figure ( someone please correct me if my figures are in err. thx)
Edited by cssorkinman - 5/17/13 at 5:03am
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Ah yeah i forgot the newer versions had the D5......I had the old version and the res/pump sucked
You'll be happy with the D5 pump its pretty good.

You will be happy with the D5, that's the pump I have in my system and it works very well. Mine is the vario version so I can speed it up or slow it down if needed.
 
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I'm not sure that it's a good idea to turn off the thermal control. I'm not a gigabyte owner, but I believe that is what protects your board and cpu from damage due to overheating. If so, it would be risky to run without it.

What have your temp monitoring programs been telling you? In my opinion, there isn't an air cooling solution that will keep the 83XX series within its thermal envelope above 4.7 ghz or so when pushing it hard.

Don't want to burn up a good chip, Good luck smile.gif

EDIT:
As to your question about amprage - I believe if your 12 volt rail is rated at 25 amps it will handle a load of 300 watts. There is a lot of debate about how much power the vishera's use, but It could indeed be getting close to that figure ( someone please correct me if my figures are in err. thx)

Well, 99% of the time it's fine, but the trouble is the temperature spikes. Normal behaviour for the CPU is that it can have somewhat significant temp swings second to second in lower to mid temps, normally tops out around the low to mid 70's. I'd say about 72-73 C is max. continuous safe temp, spikes to 75 c. The trouble happens when it spikes above max safe continuous for too much time consecutively. This chip can be a nightmare to fight with to try to get it higher at anything past what it would do with stock voltage, so if possible I would like to keep this overclock.

MUST NOT.... ADMIT DEFEAT.... HNGHHH....

I have some of the best air cooling available on the consumer market; I want to try to put it to use.
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