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I remember you, i think, did i tell you try raising your fsb then your cpu/nb should rise with it?

There is some nube on Techpowerup AMD FX forum claiming 5.0 GHZ overclock stable on an MSI board with the liquid cooler AMD sold with the Bulldozer cpu. He also claims he has 42 degrees Celsius at Full load. That cooler can't be any better than an H100 , probably worse. I told him I was skeptical before he claimed 42 degrees at load, but now I told him I don't believe him period. I asked for OCCT or IBT AVX documentation.
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There is some nube on Techpowerup AMD FX forum claiming 5.0 GHZ overclock stable on an MSI board with the liquid cooler AMD sold with the Bulldozer cpu. He also claims he has 42 degrees Celsius at Full load. That cooler can't be any better than an H100 , probably worse. I told him I was skeptical before he claimed 42 degrees at load, but now I told him I don't believe him period. I asked for OCCT or IBT AVX documentation.

aye lol he's full of it.

Even Red with all his rads gets 45C full load rolleyes.gif
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CONGRATS and /welcome !~ feel free to ask us if you need any helps !~
sorry i dont run vantage yet
it can but under heavy oc to cpu and gpus ( i have 8350 +2x 7970 ) i do see a difference. with one x750 i get ~ 17k graphics score with 2psus i get 21k
i can see the difference in fps ( it drops into the 30s ) but meh for most part it can hold them just fine ( scores are in 3dmark11)
this +1
welcome to you to!~ and no .... it is not easy over 5ghz
i thought power useage gets better with new gen cards, ? ( totally not familiar with nvidia though
also you have to multiply 540x.9 = your only pulling 486. which means you have ~ 364w available from your PSU
i say .9 because you are ~ 50% loaded which if memory serves meh means the psu is ~ 90% efficient
with my x750w i can trip OCP but it takes alot ( like 5.2ghz oc on cpu and max oc on both GPUS )


Yes they do get better, i have my CPU on 5ghz and my GPU is clocked at 1140 on clock and 1827 on memory.

Also i have 1 SSD and 2 HDD's in my case but they only add a small load on the PSU, i have 6 fans, 4 for push/pull and one for the VRM sitting on the GPU and another one on the bottom of my case.

I have X-850 Seasonic PSU that is rated for 80+ efficient and i am pulling 560 watts from the wall, and it is not an estimation but i measured it on my watt meter when i was gaming, so it is not very difficult to understand that i am at my max of my PSU efficiency

of course i can run a second card in SLI but i simply cannot maintain my CPU at 5ghz because if i SLI those cards and OC them to the max and have my CPU at 5ghz it is simply not enough.

Like i said before and say it again, MOST PSU's cannot deliver the fully 100% of its power, that is why i have Seasonic because mine is tested and CAN deliver 1100 watts, if someone does not belife me go call Seasonic or go to talk to someone who understand how PSU's work.

If it is not true what i say than why is it that every professional builder uses a PSU that is twice as powerful as the system uses? because it is at its best efficient at 50% loads.
That will not say that i cannot run 2 cards but it is not advised to do that because u simply do not have enough spare room for maximal overclocks.

And that is all i have to say about it thumb.gif
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There is some nube on Techpowerup AMD FX forum claiming 5.0 GHZ overclock stable on an MSI board with the liquid cooler AMD sold with the Bulldozer cpu. He also claims he has 42 degrees Celsius at Full load. That cooler can't be any better than an H100 , probably worse. I told him I was skeptical before he claimed 42 degrees at load, but now I told him I don't believe him period. I asked for OCCT or IBT AVX documentation.

aye lol he's full of it.

Even Red with all his rads gets 45C full load rolleyes.gif

yeah thats crap unless he is working in 15c ambient. What some these guys don't get is that this stuff is provable or disprovable. I wonder if he is pulling the ole 100% load via Wprime? Wprime will show 100% CPU but run a good 10-15c lower than IBT, OCCT, P95 etc.
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Yes they do get better, i have my CPU on 5ghz and my GPU is clocked at 1140 on clock and 1827 on memory.

Also i have 1 SSD and 2 HDD's in my case but they only add a small load on the PSU, i have 6 fans, 4 for push/pull and one for the VRM sitting on the GPU and another one on the bottom of my case.

I have X-850 Seasonic PSU that is rated for 80+ efficient and i am pulling 560 watts from the wall, and it is not an estimation but i measured it on my watt meter when i was gaming, so it is not very difficult to understand that i am at my max of my PSU efficiency

of course i can run a second card in SLI but i simply cannot maintain my CPU at 5ghz because if i SLI those cards and OC them to the max and have my CPU at 5ghz it is simply not enough.

Like i said before and say it again, MOST PSU's cannot deliver the fully 100% of its power, that is why i have Seasonic because mine is tested and CAN deliver 1100 watts, if someone does not belife me go call Seasonic or go to talk to someone who understand how PSU's work.

If it is not true what i say than why is it that every professional builder uses a PSU that is twice as powerful as the system uses? because it is at its best efficient at 50% loads.
That will not say that i cannot run 2 cards but it is not advised to do that because u simply do not have enough spare room for maximal overclocks.

And that is all i have to say about it thumb.gif

If that is true then how am i managing to do so well... rubbish n go home mr 460ti lolz
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Aye lol i cant get over 10k yet

this is what i mean though, hurricane tells us he gets 10k at 5ghz!....we have to go a full 100mhz more just to get close to him

Either he's full of it

or ram makes a huge difference for the different types rolleyes.gif

we'd have to get a few people posting their physic scores smile.gif


Yes i do and i provided the evidence but u laughed so hard that u did not even bother to ask me about my settings.

Also firestrike favors speed over timings and 3Dmark11 likes faster timings.

I had my NB set to 2750 and my HT link at 3060 or something and my RAM was 2341 with 10-10-10-33 i believe.

That scores was pure benchmarking only so it is not stable 24/7 just to let you know.

Also upper the PLL voltage can gain some more stability, a higher NB and HT link can add some more points too thumb.gif
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If that is true then how am i managing to do so well... rubbish n go home mr 460ti lolz


I did not say that you could not do it, it is just not efficient.

Do you have watt meter between your PC?

If not you have no right to say its rubbish dude thumb.gif
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Yes i do and i provided the evidence but u laughed so hard that u did not even bother to ask me about my settings.

Also firestrike favors speed over timings and 3Dmark11 likes faster timings.

I had my NB set to 2750 and my HT link at 3060 or something and my RAM was 2341 with 10-10-10-33 i believe.

That scores was pure benchmarking only so it is not stable 24/7 just to let you know.

Also upper the PLL voltage can gain some more stability, a higher NB and HT link can add some more points too thumb.gif


I laughed so hard because i dont trust you....i will never trust you and if you knew what goes into the physics score then what ya just said makes it even more rediculous. i been running firestrike demo all day and what you say u do doesnt happen in real life, just like your psu theory
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I did not say that you could not do it, it is just not efficient.

Do you have watt meter between your PC?

If not you have no right to say its rubbish dude thumb.gif

he has every right
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I did not say that you could not do it, it is just not efficient.

Do you have watt meter between your PC?

If not you have no right to say its rubbish dude thumb.gif

regardless of efficiency you still are coming up slightly ahead at 50% load compared to full load.. in addition your statements sounded as it is not possible

also there is no such thing as a 460ti

to conclude i am running both my vid cards at double the voltage. Stock they consume 100watts more than a pair of 660 ti sli.. hence my comment on fermis..

what you fail to see is you would still be running around 75% load @around 85°% efficency... and that would be both cards clocked to the max.. you would hit a thermal limit before coming close to maxing out the psu...

long story short do the math you have plenty of headroom before you get lower efficency

why do i need a watt meter to prove my point.. i have a psu that is 100 watts less than yours running 300watts roughly more thanyou are now....
Edited by F3ERS 2 ASH3S - 5/26/13 at 3:51pm
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The M5A97 boards are a bit strange. Sometimes LLC enabled will cause issues, and sometimes LLC Auto will cause issues.

By increasing your FSB your ram was set to 1732Mhz which may be part of the issue depending on what it's rated for.

I'd recommend only using the CPU Ratio to change the frequency and see if you have any issues. Then look into what type of LLC your board likes.

Edit: Also, did you get the Piledriver BIOS update after switching out your PII 955

yeah i updated my bios a month before I pulled it out , i just just reset the bios and start again
    
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