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Two questions about this:
1) What is the static pressure of these loud fans?
2) how loud are they? dB rating?

You mean of my standard 2700rpm fans?

they are rated at 4mm-H20 and have 37 decibel, and 4 of them are utterly loud.

And to be honest it does not matter if i put any better fans on it because the pump is not that powerful and the rad is very dense so the only upgrade for me would go custom water loop wich i will have in a couple of weeks thumb.gif
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Welcome smile.gif

Stress before you overclock? hmmmm why would want to do that smile.gif sorry for my ignorance

what cooling etc you going to have

I see no ignorance in curiosity my friend smile.gif my sig rig is my first build ever so I'm relatively new to this. The only prime95 tests I've run were blended and got my 4300 up to 4.6 just tuning the CPU. My memory is running 1600 stock corsair vengeance 2x4G sticks, my cooler is a Gemini s524 orientated overtop the memory for some dual action cooling. I have 5 120mm fans in a front to back flow and my 660's are evga sc so the exhaust is pushed out the back of the case.

I want to run some solid prime tests to really stress the CPU to make sure its a solid cast and as well as 3dmark and pcmark to make sure all is good before I start cranking up the multi's and volts. I have a m5a99fx pro r2.0 board from Asus. I want to push for 4.8-5 as a max clock but will probably bring it down to 4.5 for electric bill concerns ha.


Hi Miller,

I will offer you the same advice i do for first time setups and evaluating initial system stability.
Do this first. Find out what your voltage/power delivery is looking like stability wise. Download OCCT
here
Run the CPU stress test for a few minutes. when the test stops OCCT will generate charts like you see here.







Once you know how your voltage is being delivered and can see what fluctuations you have , you can make necessary adjustments if needed and you can apply the correct level of LLC. Each level of LLC has its own characteristics. Lower levels will allow some voltage drop, and the high end will hold the line or even bump it up a bit when load is applied. this will give you a starting point towards setting up stability.
I prefer the OCCT program for stress/load testing as it monitors almost every critical voltage, temp, usage, and generates a complete set of charts mapping the load session (a few of which can be seen above). It also generates just as much stress/heat as P95/IBT.

well thats is my unsolicited two cents
Good luck with the build smile.gif
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Fair enough, we all have our ways smile.gif

i aint sure how your cooler will handle these 8 cores though as ive never seen it before lol, so would be cool to see some temps etc etc later? wubsmiley.gif

Coming from a 4300 im sure youll notice huge improvement like i did i came from a 4100

im not sure how much different they are from your 4300 smile.gif

I'm sure I will too. I made a mistake and didn't update to 1503 before installing my 4300 since I opened both at the same time and just slapped them in. Are there any fixes for the 83xx that I should download before installing it? I don't have class tomorrow so I will be up pretty late tuning (Hawaii time) and I'll drop some pics once I get it stable. I don't have central air in house so the inside of my house is generally a lil warmer than outside ambient temps but despite that i the s524 works very well. I'm moving to watercooling eventually since my wife just green lighted a custom desk for me to build. Hello hideaway rads and built in desk atx case smile.gif
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Hi Miller,

I will offer you the same advice i do for first time setups and evaluating initial system stability.
Do this first. Find out what your voltage/power delivery is looking like stability wise. Download OCCT
here
Run the CPU stress test for a few minutes. when the test stops OCCT will generate charts like you see here.


Once you know how your voltage is being delivered and can see what fluctuations you have , you can make necessary adjustments if needed and you can apply the correct level of LLC. Each level of LLC has its own characteristics. Lower levels will allow some voltage drop, and the high end will hold the line or even bump it up a bit when load is applied. this will give you a starting point towards setting up stability.
I prefer the OCCT program for stress/load testing as it monitors almost every critical voltage, temp, usage, and generates a complete set of charts mapping the load session (a few of which can be seen above). It also generates just as much stress/heat as P95/IBT.

well thats is my unsolicited two cents
Good luck with the build smile.gif

Awesome! With the LLC just adjust to a steady line and just keep retesting every time an adjustment is made?
Edited by MillerLite1314 - 6/6/13 at 3:57pm
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I'm sure I will too. I made a mistake and didn't update to 1503 before installing my 4300 since I opened both at the same time and just slapped them in. Are there any fixes for the 83xx that I should download before installing it? I don't have class tomorrow so I will be up pretty late tuning (Hawaii time) and I'll drop some pics once I get it stable. I don't have central air in house so the inside of my house is generally a lil warmer than outside ambient temps but despite that i the s524 works very well. I'm moving to watercooling eventually since my wife just green lighted a custom desk for me to build. Hello hideaway rads and built in desk atx case
smile.gif

Gratz on the go ahead, its always great when they give their permission rolleyes.gif

if ya got win 7....you could google a little program called unpark cpu and run it. Thats if ya not installed the hotfixes already smile.gif
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Two questions about this:
1) What is the static pressure of these loud fans?
2) how loud are they? dB rating?

You mean of my standard 2700rpm fans?

they are rated at 4mm-H20 and have 37 decibel, and 4 of them are utterly loud.

And to be honest it does not matter if i put any better fans on it because the pump is not that powerful and the rad is very dense so the only upgrade for me would go custom water loop wich i will have in a couple of weeks thumb.gif

Well if you have a custom loop coming then its a moot point. Unless you are looking for a bit quieter fans for it that are hi static I use on all of my Alphacool NexXxos XT rads.


@ Miller
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Awesome! With the LLC just adjust to a steady line and just keep retesting every time an adjustment is made?

Well you can see the different characteristic of each stage of LLC and apply the one that fits what you want to accomplish. For example I usually run 5.2GHz as my 24/7 I prefer Ultra LLC (one step below Extreme) that way I can run a lower vcore 90% of the time and it will bump the voltage up slightly during extreme loads.
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Gratz on the go ahead, its always great when they give their permission rolleyes.gif

if ya got win 7....you could google a little program called unpark cpu and run it. Thats if ya not installed the hotfixes already smile.gif

Yea she shares my enthusiasm especially when hand making furniture. And getting my toys out of the living room from my 47" HD and 1000w bravia system ha. I'm running win 8 right now. Where can I pick up the fixes for vishera?
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You mean of my standard 2700rpm fans?

they are rated at 4mm-H20 and have 37 decibel, and 4 of them are utterly loud.

And to be honest it does not matter if i put any better fans on it because the pump is not that powerful and the rad is very dense so the only upgrade for me would go custom water loop wich i will have in a couple of weeks thumb.gif

Its not the pump its the radiator. You gotta remembers its only a thing 240mm rad.
 
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Well if you have a custom loop coming then its a moot point. Unless you are looking for a bit quieter fans for it that are hi static I use on all of my Alphacool NexXxos XT rads.


Yes it is but that is why i backed down my OC because i could not even hear the game i am playing LOL (maybe a bit overreacting but still)

I would go for 360 rad but i cannot fit that in my case so i need to mount it external and that is the last thing i want really.

I go with 280 rad with the mentioned fans because they are quiet and perform very well for that particular rad because it is not an very dense radiator so i do not need the most static pressure fans.
And maybe if i can find water blocks for my motherboard i would like to cool the vrm and the NB too but it seems that there are no water blocks for my motherboard, only for the UD7.

There were maybe some VRM water blocks that would fit so i send the guy from Aquatuning the measurements of the heat sink so i hope he has some good news soon thumb.gif
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Yea she shares my enthusiasm especially when hand making furniture. And getting my toys out of the living room from my 47" HD and 1000w bravia system ha. I'm running win 8 right now. Where can I pick up the fixes for vishera?

well they are included in win8 so no probs....if ya still want to check it use this Unpark-CPU-App.zip 521k .zip file
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