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^^ when i was a kid i had 100+ large cans of stella in my fridge..... #drunk

well for me to get stable @4.5ghz it wants 1.46v mad.gif

pass the LN2 please

You wont get much on LN you will hit a voltage cap....
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You wont get much on LN you will hit a voltage cap....

i just heard that chips that perform poorly on air/water do well on LN2... maybe thats just intel im not sure!

hey, at least im in within temps and stable for hour of prime!
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old school with that thar chip..

Looking good please post some more results and comparisons. please

Well just about everything I ran before doing this at the same clocks and vcore was going over 62c, Cinebench just touches 51c now, seems to have knocked about 10c off for short tests, likely the same for P95 coming to think of it, I never let it go past 63c but fairly sure it would have happily climbed to the 70s


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If you dont stress you may get 4.6, and then im being kind, i really think 4.7 is a bit out of your reach.

If you think about it, these are 8 core cpus and your 4-5 year old cooler aint built for it.

I aint saying its crap so pls dont think that, it just wasnt made to serve piledriver

Id be happy with whatever i got OC wise if it was me smile.gif

Im 100% stable at 4.7 - 1.45vcore, and temps are great in everything now except P95 which is not a real world test, nothing I use the machine for will ever send the CPU into that sort of stress smile.gif

You're right though, the old Tuniq has served me well over the years but it's time to retire her once I get a few pennies for a water loop, its been a very worthy cooler considering its price and age and what it's trying to cool atm lol
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i just heard that chips that perform poorly on air/water do well on LN2... maybe thats just intel im not sure!

hey, at least im in within temps and stable for hour of prime!

WOOT

No its the lower VID chips that put out a lot of heat that are good on LN2 yours is the exact opposite because once you hit 4.8 on water you will notice that your chip runs cool comparably but needs a lot more volts than everyone else

*These are estimates
Lets say VID is 1.35 @ 5GHz it will need about 1.55v
My VID is 1.375 @ 5Ghz I need Closer to 1.6v
For you being slightly higher you will need 1.62v for 5Ghz

However
VID of 1.35 is At a higher temp then the others for the same volts

To put in comparison
1st one hits 60c @ 1.55v <---ln2 <--High OC
2nd hits at 60c @ 1.58v <---Water <-- good OC
3rd hits 60c @ 1.6v <---Air/water <---You will see a cpu voltage cap when you hit water

A perfect LN2 chip would hit 60c @ 1.48v but have a clock speed of 5GHz

all of this of course is based if there was a perfect scale model however this is how the chips perform, There are exceptions These are not actual figures just examples
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Well just about everything I ran before doing this at the same clocks and vcore was going over 62c, Cinebench just touches 51c now, seems to have knocked about 10c off for short tests, likely the same for P95 coming to think of it, I never let it go past 63c but fairly sure it would have happily climbed to the 70s
Im 100% stable at 4.7 - 1.45vcore, and temps are great in everything now except P95 which is not a real world test, nothing I use the machine for will ever send the CPU into that sort of stress smile.gif

You're right though, the old Tuniq has served me well over the years but it's time to retire her once I get a few pennies for a water loop, its been a very worthy cooler considering its price and age and what it's trying to cool atm lol

Fricken awesome hmmmmm
Edited by F3ERS 2 ASH3S - 6/7/13 at 11:43am
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Well just about everything I ran before doing this at the same clocks and vcore was going over 62c, Cinebench just touches 51c now, seems to have knocked about 10c off for short tests, likely the same for P95 coming to think of it, I never let it go past 63c but fairly sure it would have happily climbed to the 70s
Im 100% stable at 4.7 - 1.45vcore, and temps are great in everything now except P95 which is not a real world test, nothing I use the machine for will ever send the CPU into that sort of stress smile.gif

You're right though, the old Tuniq has served me well over the years but it's time to retire her once I get a few pennies for a water loop, its been a very worthy cooler considering its price and age and what it's trying to cool atm lol

Well thats bloody great 4.7 for that cooler, thumb.gif i wasnt sure if u did mean u was stable or trying for smile.gif

Totally agree on the prime stable thing, i dont stress test no more myself. its pointless for me. I only play games really and surf web lately with the odd benchmark....what a busy and fruitful life i lead rolleyes.gif
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WOOT

No its the lower VID chips that put out a lot of heat that are good on LN2 yours is the exact opposite because once you hit 4.8 on water you will notice that your chip runs cool comparably but needs a lot more volts than everyone else

*These are estimates
Lets say VID is 1.35 @ 5GHz it will need about 1.55v
My VID is 1.375 @ 5Ghz I need Closer to 1.6v
For you being slightly higher you will need 1.62v for 5Ghz

However
VID of 1.35 is At a higher temp then the others for the same volts

To put in comparison
1st one hits 60c @ 1.55v <---ln2 <--High OC
2nd hits at 60c @ 1.58v <---Water <-- good OC
3rd hits 60c @ 1.6v <---Air/water <---You will see a cpu voltage cap when you hit water

all of this of course is based if there was a perfect scale model however this is how the chips perform, There are exceptions These are not actual figures just examples
Fricken awesome hmmmmm


thanks for that thumb.gif... on the scale im going id need a second psu lol (and LN2)

i just hope water will help otherwise ill be using my 4100 for a few weeks again lol
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thanks for that thumb.gif... on the scale im going id need a second psu lol (and LN2)

i just hope water will help otherwise ill be using my 4100 for a few weeks again lol

The chip will end up being you limit the added power will help but once you start putting a toll on the VRMs for power you will see.. but water will get you to a nice comfortable speed that an extra 100-200MHz wont make much of a difference compared to the voltage need
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Well thats bloody great 4.7 for that cooler, thumb.gif i wasnt sure if u did mean u was stable or trying for smile.gif

Totally agree on the prime stable thing, i dont stress test no more myself. its pointless for me. I only play games really and surf web lately with the odd benchmark....what a busy and fruitful life i lead rolleyes.gif

Yea I had the same problem with my 965 @ 3.9, P95 was too much but everything else was fine

I did have 4.8 - 1.465 but that tiny bump in vcore sent temps sky rocketing so I've had to lower it until I get a loop, quite happy with 4.7 though coming from 3.9 smile.gif

I don't even play many games lol, I just enjoy building kick ass machines and seeing how fast I can tweak them, me and my brother have an unspoken competition, and he's just built a haswell rig mad.gifbiggrin.gif
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Yea I had the same problem with my 965 @ 3.9, P95 was too much but everything else was fine

I did have 4.8 - 1.465 but that tiny bump in vcore sent temps sky rocketing so I've had to lower it until I get a loop, quite happy with 4.7 though coming from 3.9 smile.gif

I don't even play many games lol, I just enjoy building kick ass machines and seeing how fast I can tweak them, me and my brother have an unspoken competition, and he's just built a haswell rig mad.gifbiggrin.gif
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i'd of disowned him rolleyes.gif

I suppose its not your fault tongue.gif
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i'd of disowned him rolleyes.gif

I suppose its not your fault tongue.gif

I would disown you Gerty.. but then I would miss the small chatter in the wee bit of the night thumb.giflachen.gif
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