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Hey Os,
No Digital power phasing is digitally controlled power delivery of the VRM.(not a cooling method) The options I was speaking of are that you can to a certain degree control the capacitance and switching frequencies for (in the case of ASUS digi+power) the CPU/CPU/NB/ amd memory. It gives more ability to fine tune how the power is delivered and usually allows for higher overclocks at lower Voltage as opposed to purely analog power. It;s really good news for those of us that like to run lots of memory and high overclocks. ( along with the incorporation of T-topology)

And the equipment is bulky and has to be kept outside of the computer case no doubt. AND is expensive. Correctamon?

Os, you are still referring to 'Phase change' cooling. Thats a cooling solution that converts a gas into a liquid and back to dissipate heat. (think vapor chamber under extreme pressure) kind of thing. It uses a compressor like a air conditioner and I think thats what you are thinking of.
Digital power is your motherboards VRM controlled digitally for more precision delivery of voltage.

From the ASUS CVF-Z I did last week:
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Opening up Digi+ Power in the Extreme Tweaker tab opens up options that will be new to some users and can be looked at as the fine tune controls for power delivery. Here you control the capacitance for the CPU, CPU-NB, and the DRAM. Adjustments for the aforementioned capacitance can be made in 10% intervals, from 100% to 130% (140% in the case of phase control). Not only does this allow greater voltage to be used, but changes the switching frequencies for faster response and the stabilization of higher overclocks. Getting even more fine tuned, you have a separate setting that changes the switching frequencies for faster response. This level of control is great news for those of us, who in the course of our computing, used to have to choose between large amounts of RAM and high overclocks.

Moving down the list of power delivery options and optimizations are CPU Power Phase Control, which delivers increased stability to the CPU, or enable VRM Spread Spectrum for lower emission of EMI (electromagnetic interference), which also increases stability by limiting interference to surrounding components. CPU Power Duty Control allows the VRM to balance the loads applied onto each power phase to correspond to either the temperature or the current draw of each power phase. CPU Power Thermal control prevents the damage to the CPU power solution. You can see that digital power offers new and different implementations and protections, along with the ability to control how the power is delivered to the CPU, NB, and DRAM. The best way I found to overclock with this system, is to set the parameters for the digital power delivery in the BIOS, and then do the fine tuning in the ASUS TurboV EVO Suite II. As I said, most of the controls are intuitive, but it may be worth some time invested to experiment incrementally, to find how these values interact with each other when manually overclocking.

If you want to have a look at the review, i go around the board pretty thoroughly.

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OCing 8350 on air
@ 4400 stable at 61c with load




edit : Air:, stock fan/heatsink
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OCing 8350 on air
@ 4400 stable at 61c with load




edit : Air:, stock fan/heatsink

Feel free to ask me about air cooling if you decide to get high end air coolers. Things might be easier with an h100 or something though.
 
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Feel free to ask me about air cooling if you decide to get high end air coolers. Things might be easier with an h100 or something though.

thanks, I called local micro center earlier today asking them about their H220 stock, it shows there is one in stock but every time i go there and ask someone they cant find it frown.gif
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thanks, I called local micro center earlier today asking them about their H220 stock, it shows there is one in stock but every time i go there and ask someone they cant find it frown.gif

High end air cooling:
NH-D14: Comes with good fans.
Thermalright silver arrow sb-e: Comes with good fans.
Phanteks ph-tc14pe: Comes with decent fans and the best heatsink.

All of these are within 1-3 degrees celsius of eachother, and not far off an h100. Just make sure you have a case that can fit these coolers lol.
 
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High end air cooling:
NH-D14: Comes with good fans.
Thermalright silver arrow sb-e: Comes with good fans.
Phanteks ph-tc14pe: Comes with decent fans and the best heatsink.

All of these are within 1-3 degrees celsius of eachother, and not far off an h100. Just make sure you have a case that can fit these coolers lol.

thanks, lol my case is big enough, problem is so my DIMMs,
i checked all of them before i decided to go water AIO, I wish I didn't buy these stupid DIMMS
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Sorry something I saw a while back. Honest though it is what I read. Seemed there were a lot of questions with the 8350 and no real info on max temp and volts like previous chips. They said that the real issue to worry with was temps more so than volts, now don't go throwing 2.5v at it, I am sure they meant within reason. Obviously we see that here as many of us have gone above 1.55v , the normal max, and still use those chips Crsipy-free.

I'd believe it from experience. I completely wrecked a Pentium 4 Prescott to the point where it wouldn't make it into Windows desktop at 2ghz from 3.2ghz stock, and my i7 920 just doesn't clock like it used to, I had to raise volts for the same speeds.

Oddly enough my Opteron 165, which I pump a little under 1.7v through, is still alive and kicking and I keep this FX 8350 at 1.6v or so and it's been perfectly fine. No need to raise vcore at same settings, no benchmark scores going down, etc.

I think that AMD's chips are a lot tougher and cant a better beating. At least that's been my experience. Probably going to jynx myself and toast this 8350 soon, lol.

Also, did you guys see the HWBot Prime rankings lately? We obliterated everyone, even a bunch of 3930ks.
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I'd believe it from experience. I completely wrecked a Pentium 4 Prescott to the point where it wouldn't make it into Windows desktop at 2ghz from 3.2ghz stock, and my i7 920 just doesn't clock like it used to, I had to raise volts for the same speeds.

Oddly enough my Opteron 165, which I pump a little under 1.7v through, is still alive and kicking and I keep this FX 8350 at 1.6v or so and it's been perfectly fine. No need to raise vcore at same settings, no benchmark scores going down, etc.

I think that AMD's chips are a lot tougher and cant a better beating. At least that's been my experience. Probably going to jynx myself and toast this 8350 soon, lol.

Also, did you guys see the HWBot Prime rankings lately? We obliterated everyone, even a bunch of 3930ks.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1396758/hwbot-prime Yeah I have been trying to get some debate on that but it is hard to get the Intel group to admit they lost at something.
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Sorry something I saw a while back. Honest though it is what I read. Seemed there were a lot of questions with the 8350 and no real info on max temp and volts like previous chips. They said that the real issue to worry with was temps more so than volts, now don't go throwing 2.5v at it, I am sure they meant within reason. Obviously we see that here as many of us have gone above 1.55v , the normal max, and still use those chips Crsipy-free.

I'd believe it from experience. I completely wrecked a Pentium 4 Prescott to the point where it wouldn't make it into Windows desktop at 2ghz from 3.2ghz stock, and my i7 920 just doesn't clock like it used to, I had to raise volts for the same speeds.

Oddly enough my Opteron 165, which I pump a little under 1.7v through, is still alive and kicking and I keep this FX 8350 at 1.6v or so and it's been perfectly fine. No need to raise vcore at same settings, no benchmark scores going down, etc.

I think that AMD's chips are a lot tougher and cant a better beating. At least that's been my experience. Probably going to jynx myself and toast this 8350 soon, lol.

Also, did you guys see the HWBot Prime rankings lately? We obliterated everyone, even a bunch of 3930ks.

I know we can handle the voltage, I just want to see AMD say it. tongue.gif
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1396758/hwbot-prime Yeah I have been trying to get some debate on that but it is hard to get the Intel group to admit they lost at something.

They will never debate it. They will just say there's something wrong with the benchmark. They also don't take very kindly to how things go when I compare Gentoo and Windows performance either, specially when it puts a stock FX 8350 ahead of a stock 3770k in LAME.

Not to mention the internet is full of Public Image Enhancement agencies and what not who's sole purpose is to spread FUD and talk good about products that aren' or aret good (Microsoft Lumia, supposedly Intel, etc).

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I know we can handle the voltage, I just want to see AMD say it. tongue.gif

lol, I do too. It's too bad people have a problem with blaming the wrong manufacturer for hardware problems (the fan on my graphics card died, it's AMD/NVIDIA's FAULT!) instead of blaming the company who put that fan on the GPU.
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