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hi NBA,
A lot of what you are coming accross are VRM features exclusive to the Digital Power of the ASUS MB's. They control the ability to store energy and extending the OC'ing frequency range(capacitence) and the precise tuning of the power delivery by way of controlling or effecting the switching frequencies of the VRM for the CPU/CPU/NB/ and the DRAM. The Thermal control you asked about is about thermal OC'ing tolerance, the higher the number (130-150) the wider the range or more latitude for higher or more extreme OC's.
I am on my way to reviewing the whole ASUS AMD 990FX MB lineup. The sabertooth is next but I have recently reviewed the CVF-Z, and the ASUS A85X. Both using the Digi+power VRM so maybe the BIOS section will help and giving you a starting point for using these settings.
hope it helps smile.gif

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/asus_f2a85v/

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/asus_crosshair_formula_v_review/

Red, i have to admit sir. These reviews were awsome. Thanks m8 thumb.gif
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no one has answered my q in my thread so ill tap your brains... OFF TOPIC! (Click to show)
my question was about sound cards..... which to get and should i get one for my HTPC i plan on getting one for my main pc.. but i want to finnish my htpc atm ...
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from what i have seen
Asus Xonar Phoebus
Creative Sound Blaster Z

seem like the best.

OR i can use the HDMI port

which do you recommend and most importantly WHY
again this is not for gaming but HTPC ( streaming netflix/ blue ray rips from my main ) these seem to be the best. i dont need inputs. dont want to do any mixing. or anything like that. sound out only.

what do you guys think ~~ ( and why !~ )

thanks for your helps !@~!

Sound Blaster Z is actually the lowest in the new line of sound cards from Creative. Above it are the Zx and the ZxR.

Depends what the HTPC will be plugged in to. If it will be plugged into a proper receiver, then the Z may not be good enough. In my case, I upgraded from an X-Fi Titanium to a SB ZxR, and now my receiver (HTR-6130) is the one holding back my STV-758s (old Fisher speakers). tongue.gif

But then, if it's just going to a TV's speakers, then why even bother with a sound card at all? You certainly won't hear the difference without something good to play it.

For the record, I love my ZxR so far. It's just a tad pricey for most people. wink.gif
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hi NBA,
A lot of what you are coming accross are VRM features exclusive to the Digital Power of the ASUS MB's. They control the ability to store energy and extending the OC'ing frequency range(capacitence) and the precise tuning of the power delivery by way of controlling or effecting the switching frequencies of the VRM for the CPU/CPU/NB/ and the DRAM. The Thermal control you asked about is about thermal OC'ing tolerance, the higher the number (130-150) the wider the range or more latitude for higher or more extreme OC's.
I am on my way to reviewing the whole ASUS AMD 990FX MB lineup. The sabertooth is next but I have recently reviewed the CVF-Z, and the ASUS A85X. Both using the Digi+power VRM so maybe the BIOS section will help and giving you a starting point for using these settings.
hope it helps smile.gif

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/asus_f2a85v/

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/asus_crosshair_formula_v_review/

Red, i have to admit sir. These reviews were awsome. Thanks m8 thumb.gif

Thank you NBA,
I genuinely appreciate that smile.gif
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yea it will be going to a tv/ amp

Cool. I would think it would be golden with HDMI.

On a side note. It's kind of a hassle to watch Netflix in Linux. It requires jumping through hoops, because of silverlight DRM. Though it's possible, I've just been using XMBC and some piratey plugins like Navi-X, if I want to watch something. I use XMBC in my desktop (Xfce), but I can also use XMBC in place of a normal window manager. I have some friends that have Linux HTPC boxes with XMBC only. It's a good setup. Still, NetFlix would be a hassle, so there's that. Probably wouldn't be worth it since you have Netflix. Though I did see a Netflix plugin for XBMC that uses IE for a player. That might work well on a Windows box or on Linux with WINE. So yeah I'm sort of jealous. As much as I like Linux, I wish Netflix was just supported mad.gif
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no one has answered my q in my thread so ill tap your brains... OFF TOPIC! (Click to show)
my question was about sound cards..... which to get and should i get one for my HTPC i plan on getting one for my main pc.. but i want to finnish my htpc atm ...

Well it depends on the quality of the amp you are sending it because if you have an very high end sound card with descent or low end amp it would be pointless to have high end card.

So i assume you have pretty high end amp. To be honest it does not really matter what card you have as long it has 24bit christalizer and make sure it is THX certified because you can't go wrong when it has that certificate because only the best hardware will pass that test so you only getting the best possible. Make sure it is X-FI because it comes with the christalizer optimization that will christalize the audio.

Also it is hard to say what is the best because sound is different from each person so the best is to try out what suits you the best thumb.gif

here are some of the best cards:

http://sound-cards-review.toptenreviews.com/
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Sound Blaster Z is actually the lowest in the new line of sound cards from Creative. Above it are the Zx and the ZxR.

Depends what the HTPC will be plugged in to. If it will be plugged into a proper receiver, then the Z may not be good enough. In my case, I upgraded from an X-Fi Titanium to a SB ZxR, and now my receiver (HTR-6130) is the one holding back my STV-758s (old Fisher speakers). tongue.gif

But then, if it's just going to a TV's speakers, then why even bother with a sound card at all? You certainly won't hear the difference without something good to play it.

For the record, I love my ZxR so far. It's just a tad pricey for most people. wink.gif

I've been wondering about the quality of the ZxR. Sadly it's not supported by ALSA yet. SMH

Edit: Story of my life. Lol.

I was searching off and on for some time to find a good modern sound card with good Linux support. I'm still not sure what to get.
Edited by FunkyPresident - 6/8/13 at 7:53pm
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no one has answered my q in my thread so ill tap your brains... OFF TOPIC! (Click to show)
my question was about sound cards..... which to get and should i get one for my HTPC i plan on getting one for my main pc.. but i want to finnish my htpc atm ...

Well it depends on the quality of the amp you are sending it because if you have an very high end sound card with descent or low end amp it would be pointless to have high end card.

So i assume you have pretty high end amp. To be honest it does not really matter what card you have as long it has 24bit christalizer and make sure it is THX certified because you can't go wrong when it has that certificate because only the best hardware will pass that test so you only getting the best possible. Make sure it is X-FI because it comes with the christalizer optimization that will christalize the audio.

Also it is hard to say what is the best because sound is different from each person so the best is to try out what suits you the best thumb.gif

here are some of the best cards:

http://sound-cards-review.toptenreviews.com/

X-Fi is two generations old now, that list better not be a 2013 list or that site has zero credibility.

SoundCore 3D has been out since 2012, and in addition to the Recon, the entire Z line uses it, which was launched this year.

This is the new king of the hill:


I should know, I have one. I upgraded from what that site thinks is "current".
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Cool. I would think it would be golden with HDMI.

On a side note. It's kind of a hassle to watch Netflix in Linux. It requires jumping through hoops, because of silverlight DRM. Though it's possible, I've just been using XMBC and some piratey plugins like Navi-X, if I want to watch something. I use XMBC in my desktop (Xfce), but I can also use XMBC in place of a normal window manager. I have some friends that have Linux HTPC boxes with XMBC only. It's a good setup. Still, NetFlix would be a hassle, so there's that. Probably wouldn't be worth it since you have Netflix. Though I did see a Netflix plugin for XBMC that uses IE for a player. That might work well on a Windows box or on Linux with WINE. So yeah I'm sort of jealous. As much as I like Linux, I wish Netflix was just supported mad.gif
yea i know one of the reasons i am going windows for it.

debating if i want a ssd or a hdd. prolly going ssd and keep my hdds in my main tower... ill keep a few 4tb drives there and fill them with my blurays... only thing i hate about buying blue rays is i have to keep them accessible. and that usually means i never watch them again XD as they go with my gaming collection while not in boxes is just not easy to acess. so i figure now i can just buy them. rip them. and box them and not worry about it anymore. and with the software kya suggested ( albeit i actually got the creme of the crop package at least that i could find. ) i can also move it to my phones which will be amazing when i goto china. just watch it on my phone and use my recharge battery to keep my phone alive. on that note i am designing an awesome battery to recharge usb devices with... gonna be epic and you can replace the battery easy, and very very small. but that will be a story for another time.

also thank again kya i wont quote all of those but ill take a look at it.
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Thank you NBA,
I genuinely appreciate that smile.gif

just today having the time to read it and about to but i read the first 2 pages and i have to agree red. you do this for fun or professionally ?

kya i did see that one. but i thought it was nearly the same as the z but with the added ability for inputing sound? ill have to reread it again
Edited by Mega Man - 6/8/13 at 8:01pm
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kya i did see that one. but i thought it was nearly the same as the z but with the added ability for inputing sound? ill have to reread it again

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102048

vs

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102050

116dB SNR vs 124dB, and:
SB Z (Click to show)

vs
SB ZxR (Click to show)

There's quite a bit more to it then that, just look at the PCB. tongue.gif

Oh, and ignore all that "gold" stuff, that means nothing.
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Sound Blaster Z is actually the lowest in the new line of sound cards from Creative. Above it are the Zx and the ZxR.

Depends what the HTPC will be plugged in to. If it will be plugged into a proper receiver, then the Z may not be good enough. In my case, I upgraded from an X-Fi Titanium to a SB ZxR, and now my receiver (HTR-6130) is the one holding back my STV-758s (old Fisher speakers). tongue.gif

But then, if it's just going to a TV's speakers, then why even bother with a sound card at all? You certainly won't hear the difference without something good to play it.

For the record, I love my ZxR so far. It's just a tad pricey for most people. wink.gif

I've been wondering about the quality of the ZxR. Sadly it's not supported by ALSA yet. SMH

Edit: Story of my life. Lol.

I was searching off and on for some time to find a good modern sound card with good Linux support. I'm still not sure what to get.

Well, it works. Plug and play, as with anything else in linux.

You lose most of your shiny things Creative gives you; control panel, media server, stuff like that, but it doesn't cripple the hardware any.

Honestly... Don't buy a $200-250 card unless you're certain you can use it all. Look at something cheaper that you know will work. tongue.gif

Still, having "crossfire sound cards" is fun. (Yes, it's just a daughter card)
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