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You must want to burn out your board or cpu. . Keep bragging on it. When it burns I'll be the one laughing at your folly.
Wow thx for the love and support. I wasn't bragging just mentioning it. Sure ur not Intel in disguise.
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yea i know one of the reasons i am going windows for it.

debating if i want a ssd or a hdd. prolly going ssd and keep my hdds in my main tower... ill keep a few 4tb drives there and fill them with my blurays... only thing i hate about buying blue rays is i have to keep them accessible. and that usually means i never watch them again XD as they go with my gaming collection while not in boxes is just not easy to acess. so i figure now i can just buy them. rip them. and box them and not worry about it anymore. and with the software kya suggested ( albeit i actually got the creme of the crop package at least that i could find. ) i can also move it to my phones which will be amazing when i goto china. just watch it on my phone and use my recharge battery to keep my phone alive. on that note i am designing an awesome battery to recharge usb devices with... gonna be epic and you can replace the battery easy, and very very small. but that will be a story for another time.

Nice. Sounds like story I'd like to here. And China sounds like an adventure, I haven't traveled for awhile. I miss it.
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Well, it works. Plug and play, as with anything else in linux.

You lose most of your shiny things Creative gives you; control panel, media server, stuff like that, but it doesn't cripple the hardware any.

Honestly... Don't buy a $200-250 card unless you're certain you can use it all. Look at something cheaper that you know will work. tongue.gif

Still, having "crossfire sound cards" is fun. (Yes, it's just a daughter card)

That is great and kind of sexy as far as sound cards go wink.gif I didn't think it worked yet. I don't think it is in the ALSA matrix. Maybe you could report that it works? I was really considering getting an old Live or Audigy, if I couldn't find a modern card that I liked. Only because they've worked with ALSA forever. I always have preferred creative cards. I bought my first SB Live to keep from using esd, in order to run multiple programs with audio. When I get a card, I might attempt to get rid of pulseaudio. I know most of my programs can use ALSA only instead, but I'm not sure about all of them.
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Nice. Sounds like story I'd like to here. And China sounds like an adventure, I haven't traveled for awhile. I miss it. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
That is great and kind of sexy as far as sound cards go wink.gif I didn't think it worked yet. I don't think it is in the ALSA matrix. Maybe you could report that it works? I was really considering getting an old Live or Audigy, if I couldn't find a modern card that I liked. Only because they've worked with ALSA forever. I always have preferred creative cards. I bought my first SB Live to keep from using esd, in order to run multiple programs with audio. When I get a card, I might attempt to get rid of pulseaudio. I know most of my programs can use ALSA only instead, but I'm not sure about all of them.
ill let you know when we buy another ticket. we try to go every year wife is from china so we have family there. that is the cool thing. i get both the touristy stuff and the home life. have to say going there really changed me. changes your perspective. you are always told that living in the us you are very lucky but actually seeing what others deal with and live like.... changes you, your beliefs and how you think.

i really started getting involved in everything that makes the usa great. and hands down i think it just makes you more patriotic.

tickets are not bad at all either if bought in advance. me and my wife never pay more then 900ish round trip. and the overseas flight is amazing. makes us airlines look like rowboats when compared to cruise liners ( i think that is the right lingo )
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Cool. I would think it would be golden with HDMI.

On a side note. It's kind of a hassle to watch Netflix in Linux. It requires jumping through hoops, because of silverlight DRM. Though it's possible, I've just been using XMBC and some piratey plugins like Navi-X, if I want to watch something. I use XMBC in my desktop (Xfce), but I can also use XMBC in place of a normal window manager. I have some friends that have Linux HTPC boxes with XMBC only. It's a good setup. Still, NetFlix would be a hassle, so there's that. Probably wouldn't be worth it since you have Netflix. Though I did see a Netflix plugin for XBMC that uses IE for a player. That might work well on a Windows box or on Linux with WINE. So yeah I'm sort of jealous. As much as I like Linux, I wish Netflix was just supported mad.gif
yea i know one of the reasons i am going windows for it.

debating if i want a ssd or a hdd. prolly going ssd and keep my hdds in my main tower... ill keep a few 4tb drives there and fill them with my blurays... only thing i hate about buying blue rays is i have to keep them accessible. and that usually means i never watch them again XD as they go with my gaming collection while not in boxes is just not easy to acess. so i figure now i can just buy them. rip them. and box them and not worry about it anymore. and with the software kya suggested ( albeit i actually got the creme of the crop package at least that i could find. ) i can also move it to my phones which will be amazing when i goto china. just watch it on my phone and use my recharge battery to keep my phone alive. on that note i am designing an awesome battery to recharge usb devices with... gonna be epic and you can replace the battery easy, and very very small. but that will be a story for another time.

also thank again kya i wont quote all of those but ill take a look at it.
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Thank you NBA,
I genuinely appreciate that smile.gif

just today having the time to read it and about to but i read the first 2 pages and i have to agree red. you do this for fun or professionally ?

Thanks Mega smile.gif
Technically for fun, however I was around for the days when the term "enthusiast" meant someone who appreciated the tech and knew something about or wanted to learn about. Not just anyone who in possession of a $500 graphics card or processor. I miss that. Thats why I hang out in this thread. it seems most everyone here is interested in learning more about their machines and the engineering that goes into them.
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Thanks Mega smile.gif
Technically for fun, however I was around for the days when the term "enthusiast" meant someone who appreciated the tech and knew something about or wanted to learn about. Not just anyone who in possession of a $500 graphics card or processor. I miss that. Thats why I hang out in this thread. it seems most everyone here is interested in learning more about their machines and the engineering that goes into them.
...getting off soapbox biggrin.gif
i wish i had half the knowledge that came across in that review ( just got done )
your review did it for me. i will be giving up meh saberkitty for the CHVz meh only gripe is the lack of thermistors mounted on the board. i know i dont need to know what temp my usb3.0 is... but come on... i want to !~
i also was looking at some of those bios settings and like what in the world does that do?

side note. getting worried. at my xfx1250w purchase.... saw the johnyguru review.... it didnt even pass gold on his review. but on all others i have seen it did... hoping he got a bad unit... and the ripple seems high to me when compared with thex1250 from seasonic ... ( not that i really know much about that.... )

really looking foreward to all the ram options for power it has vs my saberkitty. hoping i can finally get my 32gb stablez....
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Thanks Mega smile.gif
Technically for fun, however I was around for the days when the term "enthusiast" meant someone who appreciated the tech and knew something about or wanted to learn about. Not just anyone who in possession of a $500 graphics card or processor. I miss that. Thats why I hang out in this thread. it seems most everyone here is interested in learning more about their machines and the engineering that goes into them.
...getting off soapbox biggrin.gif
i enjoy this bunch for that reason.. each regular here is about learning or sharing knowledge..i know that if i never joined up with this club i wouldnt have half the power i do now
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Thanks Mega smile.gif
Technically for fun, however I was around for the days when the term "enthusiast" meant someone who appreciated the tech and knew something about or wanted to learn about. Not just anyone who in possession of a $500 graphics card or processor. I miss that. Thats why I hang out in this thread. it seems most everyone here is interested in learning more about their machines and the engineering that goes into them.
...getting off soapbox biggrin.gif
i wish i had half the knowledge that came across in that review ( just got done )
your review did it for me. i will be giving up meh saberkitty for the CHVz meh only gripe is the lack of thermistors mounted on the board. i know i dont need to know what temp my usb3.0 is... but come on... i want to !~
i also was looking at some of those bios settings and like what in the world does that do?

side note. getting worried. at my xfx1250w purchase.... saw the johnyguru review.... it didnt even pass gold on his review. but on all others i have seen it did... hoping he got a bad unit... and the ripple seems high to me when compared with thex1250 from seasonic ... ( not that i really know much about that.... )

Yeah having only 4 was asurprise for me as well, but it has just about everything else.
BTW "ripple" is a deviation from the target or desired DC output. Today a very good PSU will be at or below about 25mv on most of the rails. Some of the really cheapy PSU's will have 400mv+. The problem with ripple is that it causes heat, instability, and is harder on components, a lot of ripple will rattle the CPU apart over time. It separates the layers of the CPU and eventually it won't hold that OC, and electro-migration, latchup come into play. i have not seen the review, but I bet it's not too bad for that Seasonic unit. that graph I posted earlier is a form of ripple


as far as not getting the gold cert, [H] did a great story about placing to much emphasis on the platinum/Gold/silver/Bronze certification. I will see if I can find it for you.

Here it is :
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/04/80_plus_irrelevant_to_you_when_buying_psu/3#.UbQFuj5IGCk
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ill let you know when we buy another ticket. we try to go every year wife is from china so we have family there. that is the cool thing. i get both the touristy stuff and the home life. have to say going there really changed me. changes your perspective. you are always told that living in the us you are very lucky but actually seeing what others deal with and live like.... changes you, your beliefs and how you think.

i really started getting involved in everything that makes the usa great. and hands down i think it just makes you more patriotic.

tickets are not bad at all either if bought in advance. me and my wife never pay more then 900ish round trip. and the overseas flight is amazing. makes us airlines look like rowboats when compared to cruise liners ( i think that is the right lingo )

That's totally cool. I can't imagine what life is like in China. Though, I think I kind of understand what you mean about it changing you point of view. I was lucky enough to experience Jamaica from a non-tourist point of view, years ago. That trip changed my point of view, for the good I think. I went there to visit some Rastafarian friends. They treated me like family and it was great just to hang out with folks. It was enlightening to see how the common person actually lives there. I loved it there though. To be honest I like to live Primitively (I have a love/hate relationship with tech). I could fish, garden and pick fruit off the tress. After a month, I nearly decided to stayed. My friend offered to let me fish off his boat to get by, as well. Why I left is indeed a story for another time wink.gif I was young at the time and I couldn't understand why a lot of young Jamaicans wanted to move to the US, but I think you might.

Sure all this is offtopic.gif, but it is interesting. I've been awake too long.
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Yeah having only 4 was asurprise for me as well, but it has just about everything else.
BTW "ripple" is a deviation from the target or desired DC output. Today a very good PSU will be at or below about 25mv on most of the rails. Some of the really cheapy PSU's will have 400mv+. The problem with ripple is that it causes heat, instability, and is harder on components, a lot of ripple will rattle the CPU apart over time. It separates the layers of the CPU and eventually it won't hold that OC, and electro-migration, latchup come into play. i have not seen the review, but I bet it's not too bad for that Seasonic unit. that graph I posted earlier is a form of ripple


as far as not getting the gold cert, [H] did a great story about placing to much emphasis on the platinum/Gold/silver/Bronze certification. I will see if I can find it for you.

Here it is :
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/04/80_plus_irrelevant_to_you_when_buying_psu/3#.UbQFuj5IGCk

here is the page in which i was referring.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story3&reid=273

here is the x1250 counterpart.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=309

that was a great read red!~ thanks !~

you can see the difference in the waves.one looks more fluid to me and the other .... well looks like a sawzall blade.... specifically in the later tests....
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Yeah having only 4 was asurprise for me as well, but it has just about everything else.
BTW "ripple" is a deviation from the target or desired DC output. Today a very good PSU will be at or below about 25mv on most of the rails. Some of the really cheapy PSU's will have 400mv+. The problem with ripple is that it causes heat, instability, and is harder on components, a lot of ripple will rattle the CPU apart over time. It separates the layers of the CPU and eventually it won't hold that OC, and electro-migration, latchup come into play. i have not seen the review, but I bet it's not too bad for that Seasonic unit. that graph I posted earlier is a form of ripple


as far as not getting the gold cert, [H] did a great story about placing to much emphasis on the platinum/Gold/silver/Bronze certification. I will see if I can find it for you.

Here it is :
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/04/80_plus_irrelevant_to_you_when_buying_psu/3#.UbQFuj5IGCk

here is the page in which i was referring.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story3&reid=273

here is the x1250 counterpart.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=309

that was a great read red!~ thanks !~

you can see the difference in the waves.one looks more fluid to me and the other .... well looks like a sawzall blade.... specifically in the later tests....

Ripple suppression on both of them is excellent. the XFX version missed Gold by a couple percent on the 100% load, but..big deal.
The chart on the Osciloscope readings for the XFX are not marked up as nicely as the Seasonic unit, but it looks like 20mv +/-+ on the 50%,80%, and 100% load tests. Not to shabby!
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