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Once I got all of the voltages and speeds correct I got my 8350 to run @ 57 in prime @ 4.8. A lot will depend on your settings and your motherboard along with room temps but unless you are going to go past 4.8 the H100i should be good. I have never owned a swiftech so I cannot comment on that cooler.

I found this: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cooling/2013/03/06/cpu-coolers-new-benchmarks/2

According to this the h80i is right on the h100i's butt in terms of performance and this isn't the first place I have seen this. It makes sense that the h100i should blow away any 120mm cooler but for some reason it doesn't seem it here. I'll try and find more numbers to put up.
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I found this: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cooling/2013/03/06/cpu-coolers-new-benchmarks/2

According to this the h80i is right on the h100i's butt in terms of performance and this isn't the first place I have seen this.

You really cant use that for comparison, that is with an intel chip.... waaaaay different than vishera smile.gif
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I feel like breaking some brains. This is my plan for Anvil:


Those of you who understand what all that means, good job. For everyone else: I'm doing insane things for the S'nG's. wink.gif Also, any 900-series board + compatible CPU can do this too, but they'll need a second GPU instead of iGPU.

The only thing I don't understand and maybe it is my inexperience, is how do you get the VM to detect and run the physical hardware instead of the virtual hardware. Also I guess i am not familiar with ESXi so that may be my issue Kyad I would love to learn a bit more as this is something that I have wanted to be able to do. Although not 100% practical for me it would have the benefits maybe pm me some articles to go over.

The only hindering thing I have ever ran across to VM's is the lack of support for Direct discrete video
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You really cant use that for comparison, that is with an intel chip.... waaaaay different than vishera smile.gif

Would it really matter in terms of judging a CPU cooler? Piledriver (and AMD in general) has higher TDP than intel, especially when OC'd, but other than that what difference will there be?
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Would it really matter in terms of judging a CPU cooler? Piledriver (and AMD in general) has higher TDP than intel, especially when OC'd, but other than that what difference will there be?

yes it really really does , really smile.gif
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The only thing I don't understand and maybe it is my inexperience, is how do you get the VM to detect and run the physical hardware instead of the virtual hardware. Also I guess i am not familiar with ESXi so that may be my issue Kyad I would love to learn a bit more as this is something that I have wanted to be able to do. Although not 100% practical for me it would have the benefits maybe pm me some articles to go over.

The only hindering thing I have ever ran across to VM's is the lack of support for Direct discrete video
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I like it!

I already have an ESXi PC running a few VMs but my desktop is way more powerful then the 4 core Phenom I have running it now.
I am curious to know how well this actually works and what you do to have win 8 receive direct control of the hardware under ESXi.

PCI-e Passthrough via VT-d/IOMMU. The ability to do so has been around since AMD HD 4000 cards, ESXi 4.0, and 890FX/whatever generation Intel made VT-d.

DirectIO, or VT-d, allows the passing of a physical device, like a GPU or NIC, directly to a VM by way of virtual addressing, like VT-x does with RAM addressing for direct RAM access for a VM. The impact to performance in minimal, and allows for cool designs like that one.

As for doing it in ESX itself...


Not too hard. wink.gif
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I am also very interested in your progress, I actually tried almost this exact thing a couple weeks ago. I got frustrated though because I kept running into little problems left and right, and just needed to use the PC, so I went back to my windows install until I had more time to play with it. I still have ESXi 5.1 installed on a flash drive, just not booting to it right now.

The problems that stopped me were getting keyboard/mouse to pass through to the VM, I set up my USB 3.0 controller as direct pass through (my 2.0 controller wasn't an option) but ESXi refused to pass it though, it kept clearing it out when I rebooted to save the settings, I tried several times, but it never took. I also had trouble getting the video card working, ESXi said it was being passed through just fine, but Windows 7 couldn't see the video card at all. I didn't troubleshoot the video too long however. I don't really have another PC to use for vSphere during the setup process (had to steal the wife's laptop, only other PCs I have are a netbook running Mint, a headless server running Ubuntu 12.04, and a HTPC running Openelec) so I was limited on my troubleshooting time, and the USB issue stumped me, so I just switched back. Let me know how yours goes!

By the way, anyone have any thoughts on my video lag when a game is open issue? I can't figure out what would cause it...happens in any browser, video resolution doesn't matter...

This is on a backup rig, which gives me quite a bit more time to experiment and troubleshoot. You are correct on the USB issues, that's why I'm cheating and hiding them behind a PCI controller where they won't be recognized as USB devices. wink.gif

I've already done this before on my main rig back when I had my 6970s;

So it isn't a new project for me, just a different way of doing it. And new ways to cheat. tongue.gif
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I really like the concept thumb.gif Particularity being able to access a GPU from a VM is of interest to me. My friend Pet had a similar setup with multiple OSs, but not as advanced.

Let me know how it goes.

Back to work for me. I just wrote the guts of a GPU fan curve program for NVIDA GPUs on Linux using libXNVCtrl. So far so good. It's multi-threaded and lightweight. Right now I just have a curve hard-coded in. Now onto adding the GUI, the ability to save curves, multiple GPU support, ect... I wanted one and felt it was a good opportunity to give back a little thumb.gif

Very nice. It's not a complicated or hard thing to do, it just takes an understanding of something few people know. The lines between physical and virtual are blurring, and we can do more than ever before.

Still, this is a fun project, and it adds to this:


Though that image is a tad outdated, you get the idea. tongue.gif

And yes, all the OS's are legit, Technet is awesome.
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i think my 120XL is a minor rather than 120m... i've seen 120m on almost every cooler roundup with h80i & others... but XL is so... under radar redface.gif.

back to fx, does anybody here that also had 2013 batch? if yes, what is the stock volt? are they all 1.375?
Edited by madorax - 7/8/13 at 8:08pm
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PCI-e Passthrough via VT-d/IOMMU. The ability to do so has been around since AMD HD 4000 cards, ESXi 4.0, and 890FX/whatever generation Intel made VT-d.

DirectIO, or VT-d, allows the passing of a physical device, like a GPU or NIC, directly to a VM by way of virtual addressing, like VT-x does with RAM addressing for direct RAM access for a VM. The impact to performance in minimal, and allows for cool designs like that one.

As for doing it in ESX itself...


Not too hard. wink.gif
This is on a backup rig, which gives me quite a bit more time to experiment and troubleshoot. You are correct on the USB issues, that's why I'm cheating and hiding them behind a PCI controller where they won't be recognized as USB devices. wink.gif

I've already done this before on my main rig back when I had my 6970s;

So it isn't a new project for me, just a different way of doing it. And new ways to cheat. tongue.gif
Very nice. It's not a complicated or hard thing to do, it just takes an understanding of something few people know. The lines between physical and virtual are blurring, and we can do more than ever before.

Still, this is a fun project, and it adds to this:


Though that image is a tad outdated, you get the idea. tongue.gif

And yes, all the OS's are legit, Technet is awesome.

I know about IOMMU etc....
You answered my question with your picture. "Advanced Settings".

How do you get your ESXi box to display the VMs on the LCDs directly attached? Thats something I would need before I would attempt this, and it does appear you figured that out from you video.

Good Stuff!
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PCI-e Passthrough via VT-d/IOMMU. The ability to do so has been around since AMD HD 4000 cards, ESXi 4.0, and 890FX/whatever generation Intel made VT-d.

DirectIO, or VT-d, allows the passing of a physical device, like a GPU or NIC, directly to a VM by way of virtual addressing, like VT-x does with RAM addressing for direct RAM access for a VM. The impact to performance in minimal, and allows for cool designs like that one.

As for doing it in ESX itself...


Not too hard. wink.gif
This is on a backup rig, which gives me quite a bit more time to experiment and troubleshoot. You are correct on the USB issues, that's why I'm cheating and hiding them behind a PCI controller where they won't be recognized as USB devices. wink.gif

I've already done this before on my main rig back when I had my 6970s;

So it isn't a new project for me, just a different way of doing it. And new ways to cheat. tongue.gif
Very nice. It's not a complicated or hard thing to do, it just takes an understanding of something few people know. The lines between physical and virtual are blurring, and we can do more than ever before.

Still, this is a fun project, and it adds to this:


Though that image is a tad outdated, you get the idea. tongue.gif

And yes, all the OS's are legit, Technet is awesome.

I know about IOMMU etc....
You answered my question with your picture. "Advanced Settings".

How do you get your ESXi box to display the VMs on the LCDs directly attached? Thats something I would need before I would attempt this, and it does appear you figured that out from you video.

Good Stuff!

1) Make GPU Passthrough
2) Assign GPU to VM
3) Install drivers to VM
4) Set monitor plugged into GPU as primary output
5) Enjoy.

There may be some problems with VRAM when using over 4GB of normal RAM for the OS, but it'll tell you how to fix it.
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Originally Posted by KyadCK View Post

1) Make GPU Passthrough
2) Assign GPU to VM
3) Install drivers to VM
4) Set monitor plugged into GPU as primary output
5) Enjoy.

There may be some problems with VRAM when using over 4GB of normal RAM for the OS, but it'll tell you how to fix it.

The VRAM issue is only when you directly connect your hardware? I ask as I have never heard of such a thing and have set 4/6 GB to VMs. What specifically do you directly connect to the VM before this is an issue?
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8350 FX GA-990FXA-UD5 MSI 7870 HAWK MSI 7870 HAWK 
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CMZ16GX3M2A1866C9 OCZ-AGILITY3 SSD OCZ-AGILITY3 SSD 2 x OEM SATA DVD R/W 
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Zalman CNPS 9900 MAX 2x120mm Case Fans Windows 7 64bit  ASUS VE276Q 
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L226WTY-BF L226WTY-BF Logitech G15 (Original from 2006) Thermaltake ToughPower 750 watt w/4 rails 
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