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In another thread it was mentioned that IBT results of less than +3 are unstable. I have been getting results of -1 for some time along with IBT saying it is stable.

So last night I went looking for +3.

One click up on the vcore and I found the sweet spot. This thing has never run this good. It looks like it was slightly undervolted.


Then I continued raising the volts and did get that +3. I also got more heat and less stability with IBT stopping after just 2-3 runs. Thinking it might be in a transition stage I kept upping the vcore volts until it was over 1.6v in the bios, but it never stabilized.

What am I doing wrong?

your OC isn't stable yet if you are getting negative results.

Step One: turn off all the power saving options while stress testing, Could lead to wonky results or false negatives or positives.


Step two: Find your VID, and lower your overclock to close to 4ghz for testing purposes(just lower your multi, nothing else), and lower your Vcore to one notch above your VID ( will explain after step three)


Step three: Run IBT @ very high (faster then running max, only reason to step down at this point)

If it fails or gets negative results (a pass IMHO is anything above +2) reboot and give the vcore another notch up. At this point you can repeat the Vcore notch one more time and if it fails again i would start looking into other settings.(need bios Screen shots to help with that). The reason for all of this is, you are at the upper limits of what your chip should be able to do with around 1.40v give or take after LLC. Most Pile drivers can manage 4.5-4.7 near stock voltage.

You are getting into the clock range that you will start to need to give you VDDA or CPUVDDA a little more voltage (stock on my board is 2.5v, i've bumped it up to 2.6v for anything above 4.5ghz)

Once you've found your 4ghz sweet spot, now you are ready for Step Four.

Step Four: Back up the mountain again
-Start increasing your multi by whatever factor you are comfortable with. (for example I go up two notches between every stress test until i get to 4.5, then i start testing after every notch to the multi.)
-by the time you get back over 4.5 you shouldn't have much more then 1.4v on the Vcore IF that. (mine run 4.5 @ 1.37v in bios)

you are now nearing the voltage wall. how sever the voltage wall really depends on your VID over 1.35 and i'd say you've got a bit of a voltage wall to deal with.

Most 8350's don't really need any serious voltage bumps until they break the 4.8 barrier.




good luck!

On an utterly unrelated note, Does anyone know what the fastest AMD gpu you can Hybrid crossfire with a A10 6800k ? best i've seen is a 7750.. anything better work? or should i tell my bro to wait til the SR apu which theoretically should have a better gpu on die that can potentially crossfire with maybe a 7800 series?? hmmm???
Edited by FlailScHLAMP - 10/8/13 at 12:02pm
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post #24612 of 68053
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Originally Posted by miklkit View Post

In another thread it was mentioned that IBT results of less than +3 are unstable. I have been getting results of -1 for some time along with IBT saying it is stable.

So last night I went looking for +3.

One click up on the vcore and I found the sweet spot. This thing has never run this good. It looks like it was slightly undervolted.


Then I continued raising the volts and did get that +3. I also got more heat and less stability with IBT stopping after just 2-3 runs. Thinking it might be in a transition stage I kept upping the vcore volts until it was over 1.6v in the bios, but it never stabilized.

What am I doing wrong?
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APM off for cpu and for ram? You may try it again without CNQ enabled to see if that helps. The ram seems to be overvolted, underclocked and is at recommended timings so that shouldn't be where the problem lays ( might try 2t command rate however).
You are pretty near the limit of your cpu cooling , that's where stability troubles can start.
A little bit of a long shot, but my GD-80 will pass stability tests at ht speeds of 2200 , that it wont pass at 2600, you may drop your ht link multi to 11 and try that also.
The GD-80 runs low cpu/nb and ht voltages at default, but tbh, the only voltage I need to boost is V-core to get some good OC's.
I would be interested to see what you get for a Maxxmem 1.99 score at the settings you have in the picture - have you ever ran that program?
Good luck smile.gif
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you must have a pretty good chip flail. I have to be at the same vcore to get 4.5ghz stable. Stock voltage only works up to 4.2ghz i have to bump up one notch at 4.3.. 4.7-4.8ghz has to be at 1.5vish to get positive ibt avx results (AND pass freeze test) and run p95 without errors.

Maybe its cause your mobo is so much better or you have taken other steps to become stable (changing cpuvdda/vdda which my board doesn't have an option for that im aware of). I am not sure but stock voltages are NOT stable even at 4.3ghz for me (i can boot stock voltages up to 4.5ghz atleast but needs much more to be stable) currently im at 1.44v at 4.5ghz for 100% stable

heres what 4.7 required for me, set to 1.48 LLC set to high vboosts up to 1.52, I tried one step down and got neg results:


Edited by dmfree88 - 10/8/13 at 12:45pm
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you must have a pretty good chip flail. I have to be at the same vcore to get 4.5ghz stable. Stock voltage only works up to 4.2ghz i have to bump up one notch at 4.3.. 4.7-4.8ghz has to be at 1.5vish to get positive ibt avx results (AND pass freeze test) and run p95 without errors.

Maybe its cause your mobo is so much better or you have taken other steps to become stable (changing cpuvdda/vdda which my board doesn't have an option for that im aware of). I am not sure but stock voltages are NOT stable even at 4.3ghz for me (i can boot stock voltages up to 4.5ghz atleast but needs much more to be stable) currently im at 1.44v at 4.5ghz for 100% stable

heres what 4.7 required for me, set to 1.48 vboosts up to 1.522, I tried one step down and got neg results:


add another 60mhz to the core clock and things get ugly.. 1.524v for 4.8ghz *palmface*
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I have 4.7 sitting at 1.475v and hits 1.495v at vboost
    
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nice you got good llc! mine is either super droop or +.04 vboost. Also i cant set mine to 1.475 either tongue.gif otherwise i MIGHT be stable at same vcore if i could tongue.gif
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i'm doing an experiment.

i've turn of two cores, so i'm running @ 4.65 with 6cores once i find the lowest stable voltage i'm gunna push it to see if i can get past 5ghz on 6 cores for 24/7 (doubtful, by i'm gunna try)

reason doing this, is i remember someone mentioning that they got better single core performance by turning off cores, this was ages ago or i'd quote the post.. but i'm bored lol
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Can anybody beat this at same clocks


Ok so here are some optimized (RAM and NB OC'ed as well) 4.8GHz runs. Ill push for a 5'er later. Maybe tomorrow.

CPU: 4.8GHz (300*16)
RAM: 2400MHz 11-11-12-27 1T
NB: 2700Mhz

Cinebench R11.5


Cinebench R15:


PS: 5GHz @ 1.5v. Now I am loving that! Well done! thumb.gif
Edited by Alastair - 10/8/13 at 1:30pm
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i'm doing an experiment.

i've turn of two cores, so i'm running @ 4.65 with 6cores once i find the lowest stable voltage i'm gunna push it to see if i can get past 5ghz on 6 cores for 24/7 (doubtful, by i'm gunna try)

reason doing this, is i remember someone mentioning that they got better single core performance by turning off cores, this was ages ago or i'd quote the post.. but i'm bored lol

I think that applied to turn off 1 core per module.

Just removing a module will not improve single core unless you are able to the boost the clock speed
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yeah he was disabling the virtual core vs disabling 1 physical 1 virtual. This still may decrease temps though atleast a little bit.

you are now running an fx-6350 lol
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External powered Seagate expansion desk Dell studio stock Stock Windows 10 
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FX-8350 GA-990FXA-UD5 MSI 7870 Hawk Edition Gskill 1600 2x4 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Corsair Force Series 3 22x Samsung w/ lightscribe dvd/cd burner Noctua NH-D14 Win 7 pro x64 
MonitorPowerCase
Acer x173w Seasonic M12II 650watt Semi-Modular PSU Apevia x-dreamer4 (with side window and red) 
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Intel i7 4790k Delidded + Lapped ASRock Z97 Extreme4 MSI Twin Frozr GTX 660  Corsair Vengeance Pro 2400mhz DDR3 
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OCZ Deneva 2 R series 400GB SSD WD Green 4TB HDD Asus DRW-24B1ST Phanteks PH-TC14PE_RD 
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Windows 10 Seasonic 650w M12II Phanteks Enthoo Pro M with Acrylic side Cobra e-blue 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
intel core 2 quad q8200 Dell studio stock Dell studio Stock Corsair Force 3 SSD 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
External powered Seagate expansion desk Dell studio stock Stock Windows 10 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 GA-990FXA-UD5 MSI 7870 Hawk Edition Gskill 1600 2x4 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Corsair Force Series 3 22x Samsung w/ lightscribe dvd/cd burner Noctua NH-D14 Win 7 pro x64 
MonitorPowerCase
Acer x173w Seasonic M12II 650watt Semi-Modular PSU Apevia x-dreamer4 (with side window and red) 
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