Originally Posted by Onglar
No its a real rep, how can i prove it?
if its real it wasnt from me and i assure you someone who is a mod can tell you where it came from
. Likely someone was giving you rep because they agree and dont like me and claimed i was in that video or something. Prolly d!nky
Originally Posted by ashyg Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
IIRC 270x=7870 (NON XT), 280=7870xt/7950,280x=7970. 7870xt would be good if you can get a decent deal on one. Or even get lucky and get a pair for less:
26 min left if you get on it im sure it will out-perform a single 280x
. Must have better psu though.
But even still probably better in the long run to get the 280x and upgrade to xfire 280x in the future. More expandability.
Are some good deals on those 7870xt though, certainly going for cheap in comparison to just a couple months ago.
if that pair of 7870xt with aftermarket coolers dont go for more then $300 im gonna cry for buying my card lol.
As i typed that the price hit 300 exactly 13 min left. I feel a little better lol.
$305 to close
... so you feel JUST better? haha
LOL nice yeah i kinda do. I had a good guess
Originally Posted by matada
I actually changed it right after I built the loop. Never took a new pic. my camera is terribad. I thought my SSD was bad because of random 30-60 second freezes. got the gigabyte and have yet to have a non user created freeze. Oc's nice too :3. sofar only bumped it 300mhz.
yeah im sure it was the MSI board's wacky vcore doing it to you. it did it to me thats for sure
and yours was even older model then mine so im sure it had even more problems
. As Kyad mentioned which revision can certainly make a big difference. For your sake i hope you got a new one thats rev4 or a older used one thats rev 1.x.. Otherwise you might be in for a new onslaught of headaches
. There seem to be alot of querks with these 990fx boards pretty much no matter which brand/board you get. Usually in the end has good results but may have some trouble getting there
. Even the rev3 has its moments if properly tuned and not looking for a major OC.
Originally Posted by chiznitz
I appreciate the fact you've tried to give me advice twice now. The problem is each time your answers didn't add up to what I was asking and I believe the first one was almost as ignorant as you could get to someone looking for help. There is an obvious difference between many of these cards besides the "Just get the one you like the looks of"
Then you went on to recommend a card I just told you I will not be buying.
Why the hate for the HIS IceQ? I had someone else tell me it was a good card and I've looked around at reviews, the turbo boost card was able to achieve a nice overclock and I thought they had one of the best nonwatercooled stock coolers? If I'm wrong then I will definately just go ahead and get the MSI with a base clock of 850 and see how far I can take it, but if $10-30 gets me a better card that will overclock better and not give me a hassle with heat, I'm all in.
I'm not prepared for sli/crossfire currently and that auction was at $305 when I looked. I may be upgrading the power supply but I was going to hold out until I get my sabertooth which I believe will fix my hard lockups at 5ghz.
Thanks again to all trying to help respectfully.
The 2 main reasons Id pick the MSI over the his.
1. Warranty is 3 years with MSI vs 2 years with HIS. Plus they dont fix cards/mobos at MSI they just send you a new one (I dont have any personal experience with HIS so IDK there). So if its broke you get a brand new 3 year warranty. Which is always from manufacturer date so you can buy used MSI within warranty and never worry. HIS Requires purchase receipt.
2. MSI created MSI AB which is the most renown software for tweaking gpu. As far as i know most HIS cards are voltage locked (please correct me if im wrong). Hawk has Multi-voltage control I am still trying to find info on the gaming edition it MIGHT not but i doubt it would have less control then the his.
Yes the gaming edition atleast has core and memory volt control:
I cant find info on the HIS 280x but the HIS 7970 appears to be voltage unlocked so i assume the 280x would be the same (if not flash it to a 7970 bios BAM its unlocked
So really the only reason so go MSI>HIS would be the warranty. Both have hynix memory (which is good). Both have a decent cooler. Both seem to be voltage unlocked. The HIS does seem to do better based on this:
But really its hard saying where you could take the MSI aswell (i dont trust alot of websites results unless you pull multiple similar results together which is hard to find at the moment). Due to the cost factor IMO the MSI is a better option. If you dont mind going $30 might aswell go $50 and get the sapphire toxic as it is almost worth it
. Otherwise I dont think the HIS is worth it due to warranty + cost more then anything.
All in all ive been very happy with MSI warranty service. Sadly I have had to use it so thats not really a good thing either, but they returned new products both times in a timely manor without question. So I am happy to vouch for them as far as products go I can also vouch for the cooler as its the same cooler my gpu uses. I would have preferred a triple fan like the toxic or windforce (just dont like gigabyte there cards are IMO always 50/50
) but im pretty happy with the twinfrozr4. I am sure there is a couple HIS users that can tell you how it performs or if its worth the extra 10-30. But either way 1 year extra warranty and still basically the same cooler (within similar OC limits im sure) gives MSI the edge IMO.SUBJECT CHANGE
I keep editing this post but noone posts after me and I dont want to flood the forum lol. So I had a thought about my problems FSB overclocking. I ended up leaving my northbridge multi at x11 (Stock) and pushing FSB back to 222 (which was unstable at x10). The reason I did this even though x10 was unstable at a lower closer to stock clock. Is because I remembered northbridge not working at x12 multi no matter what I did previously. So sure enough at like 2435 (cant remember exact number dont want to do math) northbridge i was able to run IBT all the way through 10 runs then for some reason the very last run returned a high answer (normally 3 returned a 7) and said it was unstable.
So even though it wasnt stable it still didnt hard freeze. I have a feeling there was something else unstable im sure i could have found it if i really tried. But I went back up to 230+ and it wouldnt boot into windows would bsod after password input. Im guessing my northbridge doesnt overclock well or my ram is having some troubles. dont really know what to think anymore but atleast i stopped the hard freezing. Im guessing x10 multi aswell as x12 for northbridge fail on mine no matter what.
After all that I decided to go back to 213, push my ram back down to stock timings (9-9-9-24-33-C2) with ram volts at 1.66 (Reason i do this is 1.65 droops down to 1.63 no matter what clock im at and is still stable but hovers between 1.63-1.65, but 1.66 RARELY droops to 1.64 but stays at 1.66 consistantly), and pushed my htlink back to stock multi (x13) and I am back to stable for IBT atleast. Dont think ill turn p95 on till I get a 3rd fan though
Ill probably keep pushing it till it crashes keeping my cpu in the 4.62-4.68 range. But atleast my HTLink is finally back above stock and northbridge + ram have a slight OC. IBT was also more consistant and ran smoother then normal so we will see how it goes 213 might be the sweet spot Edited by dmfree88 - 11/19/13 at 2:08am