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Well Just bought me a AMD radeon XFX 280X DD hopefully its good.. will find out in 2 weeks or so

$325 plus shipping.. not bad I say

When is arrives pop over to the 280x/270x club and I will add you if you would like.
.... 280x is part of the 7970 club ! on this note just bought a fifth ! till i get my 290xs i figued my 2011 intel needs a good gpu

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Hello folks,

Found some time to mess around with my new 990fx Saber r2.0 board.
What do you guys think of this? Haven't tested prime yet but IBT avx on maximum is also pretty heavy right?

not bad, better question though, how are you liking it ?
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A bit surprising to some people

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/1384013/fs/1382721
HAHAHAHAHA
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Chopper1591: OCCT and P95 have been humming along just fine for a while for me, but IBT was giving me nothing but trouble until today. You need to run it longer though. I have had lots of IBT crashes around the 9-12 run mark.

I'm calling Blackie stable now. I don't care what you call me. biggrin.gif

Been working on the HTT and NB and it seems to be ok now with both the NB and HTT at 2508mhz. Decided to do a custom run using 12196mb of ram. It was running along just fine for a while.

Have you ever heard the saying: "It don't rain but it pours."?

First the antivirus that I forgot to shut down started its scheduled scan. Then my attempts to shut it down only got another scan running. Then the mailman showed up and the dogs started barking so my wife tossed them into this room and shut the door. Then the heater kicked in. This puter is sitting high up on a desk and there is a floor vent a little over a meter in front of it. This is good in the summer as it blows cold air into the front of the puter case, but bad in the winter when it is blowing hot air...........rolleyes.gif

So it has IBT going plus 2 scans with hot air blowing into it. Yeah it overheated. So I tossed something over the heater vent and opened the door to cool it down. Eventually the scans ended and it finished the IBT too.

I call this puter Blackie because it's well, black. It may be black on the outside and blue on the inside but he has a heart of Gold. PASSED!! wheee.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Don't mind the 13mhz minimum. That happened right at the start when the cpu hit full load and it took some time for the fans to spool up. Likewise with the 67.1C max temp. Even when it was overheating it only hit 66C. One thing does need looking into. The fans never did hit max rpms.

serious question... why does everyone think you need to keep ht +cpu/nb tied at the same speed? it does NOT HELP, i have not seen one shread of prof, and none of my tests show it does help.

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How do you like the Devil 270x?

I love it. It's a real beast of a card. Will be getting a second one in a couple months

Although since I'm on the subject. Will my CPU FX 8320 at 4.5ghz bottlneck? Cause I play bf4 and a few other games and don't see full gpu usage.

no, just no, as always intels will spit out a better shinier number in benches, but i run quadfire and my 8350 pushes them much better. i really do blame the benches for this misdemeanor belief as i could program anything to give better numbers to certain cpus....
with that said intel does have some minor improvements over amd in multi gpu, but you can push them just fine with amd.

fyi my amd rig is still my main rig, i just use the 2011 for playing
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You have 30c to play with although use ibtavx for full stability there is a link in op of the thread for you

So you're saying I need to watch the package temp. I'm confused by that but I like those temps! The other temp CPU temp I could swear was the important one to watch. It confused the hell out of me because OCCT doesn't give you the "package" temp, it gives the CPU temp. Same with AI Suite it reads and displays the CPU temp. Thanks for your advice. I did re-seat the cooler and this time I used some Arctic Silver 5. Maybe my times will get better as the paste cures.

huh?

1 socket temp is important, stay below 72c socket IF you have apm enabled.
2 package aka core temp stay below 62 is most widely accepted

3 download hwinfo64, you will thank me
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I wonder who started this cpu bottleneck baloney? just because you aren't 100% gpu usage doesn't mean you are bottlenecked somewhere else.


It depends how much work there is for the gpu to do from what i have seen in bf4 , the only time it maxes out is when there is smoke , a helluva lot of movement or you get near the edge of the map and it blurrs the screen.

I've seen a single core socket 939 cpu running 3.0ghz max out a 460 GTX and I've seen the opposite too, there's just so many other things going on it's hard to get a hold on.


Short answer... no. lol


Bottle neck is very misunderstood I think. The standard pc is gpu bottle necked. It's just a bad description IMO. When adding a 2nd powerful gpu it will cause the cpu to be the limiting factor. So in theory yes it is, but it won't be a problem.

That's what people are really asking. Will it function poorly cpu bound. The answer is no. You just need to overclock to lower this affect. But if you are asking if a overclocked 4960k would get more fps. Then yes it would.

I am glad a $1000 cpu isn't required for good gaming rig though.
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I love it. It's a real beast of a card. Will be getting a second one in a couple months

Although since I'm on the subject. Will my CPU FX 8320 at 4.5ghz bottlneck? Cause I play bf4 and a few other games and don't see full gpu usage.

I run my 8350 at 4.7 Ghz and X-Fired with the 7870 Devil I got over 19000 Graphics score on 3DMark11 and 66.6 Fps and 2788 score on Unigen Valley on extreme HD so I would say no. Of course if you overclock higher on CPU and RAM the physics will get better, but in games it's great. I have seen R9 290's that can't get 19000 Graphics on 3DMark11. Not sure about the 290's in Valley but I am sure I at least close.

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I wonder who started this cpu bottleneck baloney? just because you aren't 100% gpu usage doesn't mean you are bottlenecked somewhere else.


It depends how much work there is for the gpu to do from what i have seen in bf4 , the only time it maxes out is when there is smoke , a helluva lot of movement or you get near the edge of the map and it blurrs the screen.

I've seen a single core socket 939 cpu running 3.0ghz max out a 460 GTX and I've seen the opposite too, there's just so many other things going on it's hard to get a hold on.


Short answer... no. lol


Bottle neck is very misunderstood I think. The standard pc is gpu bottle necked. It's just a bad description IMO. When adding a 2nd powerful gpu it will cause the cpu to be the limiting factor. So in theory yes it is, but it won't be a problem.

That's what people are really asking. Will it function poorly cpu bound. The answer is no. You just need to overclock to lower this affect. But if you are asking if a overclocked 4960k would get more fps. Then yes it would.

I am glad a $1000 cpu isn't required for good gaming rig though.
i like this answer !
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So you're saying I need to watch the package temp. I'm confused by that but I like those temps! The other temp CPU temp I could swear was the important one to watch. It confused the hell out of me because OCCT doesn't give you the "package" temp, it gives the CPU temp. Same with AI Suite it reads and displays the CPU temp. Thanks for your advice. I did re-seat the cooler and this time I used some Arctic Silver 5. Maybe my times will get better as the paste cures.

As mega said.. Both have thermal limits but socket or what is referred as cpu can go up to70c if it reaches that a fan on the vrms and/or the backside of the socket will greatly reduce that temp

The package temp refers to the actual silicon inside the chip and that has a max safe of 62c

So yes you have a bit to go but I'm sure you will hit the boards limit before you hit the thermal limit
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serious question... why does everyone think you need to keep ht +cpu/nb tied at the same speed? it does NOT HELP, i have not seen one shread of prof, and none of my tests show it does help.

1. It works better for me as in more stable. Also, I spent hours searching and there are two camps. One says 2200 and 2600 and the other says keep them about the same.

2. These guys say this is what you should do, and they built this motherboard. Serious answer.
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1. It works better for me as in more stable. Also, I spent hours searching and there are two camps. One says 2200 and 2600 and the other says keep them about the same.

2. These guys say this is what you should do, and they built this motherboard. Serious answer.

Real answer there is no need to keep them linked

Cpu/nb is good for ram since it controls the IMC

Ht controls other communications, I run around 2700 on ht it helps a lot more for multi GPU set ups

Full answer do what gives you best performance/stability
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Real answer there is no need to keep them linked

Cpu/nb is good for ram since it controls the IMC

Ht controls other communications, I run around 2700 on ht it helps a lot more for multi GPU set ups

Full answer do what gives you best performance/stability
What I gather in my recent quest to UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING biggrin.gif is that HT being that which is what the CPU uses to talk to the NB which houses the PCI-e, having a somewhat faster HT allows for greater Bandwidth for the trafficking of the information which in turn explains the necessity of Higher HT with >1 GPUS. Lowering your HT from stock gains nothing more than the ability to have higher bench results Where HT is not in the testing scenario ie: 3dMark would need HT whereas Hwbot would not. Lower HT = less heat and less voltage draw allowing for a albeit slightly higher OC for some suicide bench runs.
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I run my 8350 at 4.7 Ghz and X-Fired with the 7870 Devil I got over 19000 Graphics score on 3DMark11 and 66.6 Fps and 2788 score on Unigen Valley on extreme HD so I would say no. Of course if you overclock higher on CPU and RAM the physics will get better, but in games it's great. I have seen R9 290's that can't get 19000 Graphics on 3DMark11. Not sure about the 290's in Valley but I am sure I at least close.

Proof -
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Let me tell you a story about 2 crappy 7770s... . I stomp Skyrim with them with beautiful graphics and 75FPS capped. MY god wait till I get a 290X (or a 290 still debating with my inner demons devil.gif ). Anyway shadows in that game ( oh sorry this is just something Interesting I found and tried ) can easily run at 4096 on most good-great systems. 8192 rez shadows however have been warned to cause serious issues hence warnings everywhere not to run them. Well I have news THEY WERE RIGHT. But man those shadows look good.

8192 shadows they look so clean and crisp awesome in the slideshow they create.

4096 shadows look good but not nearly as smooth and crisp but also allow for a viewing that doesn't mimic 1920s black and whites.
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serious question... why does everyone think you need to keep ht +cpu/nb tied at the same speed? it does NOT HELP, i have not seen one shread of prof, and none of my tests show it does help.

1. It works better for me as in more stable. Also, I spent hours searching and there are two camps. One says 2200 and 2600 and the other says keep them about the same.

2. These guys say this is what you should do, and they built this motherboard. Serious answer.

Quote:
Originally Posted by F3ERS 2 ASH3S View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by miklkit View Post

1. It works better for me as in more stable. Also, I spent hours searching and there are two camps. One says 2200 and 2600 and the other says keep them about the same.

2. These guys say this is what you should do, and they built this motherboard. Serious answer.

Real answer there is no need to keep them linked

Cpu/nb is good for ram since it controls the IMC

Ht controls other communications, I run around 2700 on ht it helps a lot more for multi GPU set ups

Full answer do what gives you best performance/stability

and i 2700/3900 cpu.nb/ht
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