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Tell me about it. #lack of cooling.
Yea. Now I'm running 3x 240mm rads, 2x 60mm fans on my VRM sink, & 1x 140mm fan on the back of the motherboard socket
 
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with that said i never said you had to, i left a warning, that is all, yes stability is subjective, but as for me and my family stuff like my irreplaceable pics and what not.... i dont want to lose... so i push to the extreme

If you are overclocking a file server, you only have yourself to blame.

Also, "Irreplaceable pics" in the digital age, are non-existent. Cameras use SD cards, buy a new SD card when they get full instead of erasing it. It's called redundancy.

My family's pictures are in 5 places; Printed, SD, DVD, Server, Cloud. Those burned to DVD are kept in the fireproof safe, SD in the camera bag, Printed in photo books, Server is in the basement, and who knows where the cloud servers are.

There is absolutely NO reason to have everything in one place. Not in this day and age. And the last time overclocking anything but HT or PCI-e caused any form of file corruption that wasn't the loaded operating system itself was never. Unless you are actively editing the only non-saved copy of an image, a crash will not ruin anything on the HDD. Even if it does manage to take out the OS, that still doesn't make everything else unrecoverable, it just means you need to put it in another computer to get the files back.

The risk of HDD failure is a thousand times a larger threat than "Oh no my OC is unstable" to precious files. Using that as an excuse implies that you also have neglected to back up your data in any meaningful way. Stability is all well and good, but it is the absolute least of your concerns at the moment if this is your argument for why it's need.

So here's my advice: Spend a little less time lecturing about perfect stability and back up your "irreplaceable" files NOW before a random head crash makes you lose them forever. Pick up a cheap dual-core APU with 2GB of cheap ram, drop in some HDDs and put them in RAID 1 or mirror them manually. The entire server should cost under $700 including HDDs and OS for several terabytes of space, $500 if you're feeling cheap. You don't even need special software, and can use Linux if you don't mind doing so to shave off another $100.


For the sake of helping others we do request some form of stability proof, be it the latest Prime, or IBT-AVX, or some other understandably "extreme" load. As Megaman said, it isn't to be rude, we're just trying to protect the new people by... I guess we could call it "certifying" the information.

That said, "Prime Stable" is even more subjective than normal stability, so try to run it for at least an hour, even if you normally don't. I don't put a lot of restrictions on this club, but I would like a standard base line to work off of. It isn't required to be here or talk, but if you are going to help others with overclocking and stability it would be preferred.
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Yes you will see a noticeable difference as the extra cores will help with recording

Awesome! That's one of the issues I've run into over the last few months, is just simply not having enough processing power to record gameplay with software without taking a huge hit on game performance.

Also, it always takes so long to import a video into the program to edit. I mainly use Movie Maker, but I also sometimes use Roxio's Videowave software that I got with my Roxio Game Capture device. It also always takes so long to finish converting video after editing. From what I've read, the FX-8320 should perform quite well in these areas of computing.

Just... careful with that G46. Basically every 900-series MSI board but the GD80 has proven to be... "Iffy" with the FX-8*** chips.
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That's awesome! One of my goals for next year is to do more with my desktop, aside from just playing games, and a lot of the things I would like to do more of require a lot of CPU power, like video and photo editing, programming, and recording gameplay, among other things. I'll be getting the FX-8320 for around the same price, so it's nice to know my money won't be wasted.

Please don't put an 8320 on that g46 frown.gif

And here is our resident MSI Guy saying the same thing, quoted for emphasis.
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Dude whoever told you that was terribly misinformed and wrong. The 83xx chips will beat the old core 2 quads into the dirt man. Especially since they surpass 3rd gen quad i5's and even trade blows with overclocked 3770k's and 4770k's when pumped up to 4.8Ghz+ man. At 4.5 you will certainly notice a difference. Past that and you might just singe your eyebrows! thumb.gif

With an H100I you will probably top out at about 4.8-5. Don't be scared to go up to 1.7 on RAM. JDEC states that DDR3 should be able to withstand up to 1.9v before incurring any damage. Also generally with CPu-NB speeds above 2500Mhz will need a little more volts. Don't get confused between NB and CPU-NB. CPU-NB is the memory controller and upping that will increase the memory bandwidth. Hope this helps man

don't count out the core architecture.. this is funny because i Snagged a Pair of q6600 at my IT clean up job and i do plan on benching them against my FX8350

I don't expect a huge victory for the FX (i know my FX can do 4.6 and bench at 4.8 but...)

If i can get one of those q6600's to 4ghz the numbers might be closer that you would think

I'm almost thinking they will be nearly identical in 3DM benchs.

I look forward to your results. Not because i am a Intel Fan boy, but because it's neat to see how older tech stacks up to newer tech with some OC smile.gif

It's like i always said, if Intel had made some 8 Core "Core 2 Quad" CPU's we wouldn't need Ivy/Sandy or Haswell lol

Personally if I were to ask for an old chip, it would be Nephlem. C2D and C2Q were bad for a number of reasons (measured in today's world), but simply but it was the "bolting them together" design of the cores, plus the IMC was on the Motherboard leaving them FSB starved at times and an Octo-core would not make things any better.

As dated as HT is, FSB is even worse. At least HT doesn't include RAM.
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We would need Nehalem, DEATH TO THE FRONT SIDE BUS!

And you just earned like 10 points.* tongue.gif But ya, that was the biggest issue.

They mean about as much as the points on Who's Line, I just like it when newer people to the thread show knowledge of generational changes and an understanding of what they were. Probably one of the quicker ways to get respect from me.


Also, Merry X-Mas to everyone in the thread as that is what I celebrate, and Happy Holidays to those of you who do not share this day. cheers.gif

If anyone is interested, I have a number of game keys just sitting around, and I think for the spirit of the season I'll do a small giveaway later today for the wonderful members of the club. thumb.gif
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The 3770K is running 12.1 drivers for the 7970 tho...
merry christmas, but no, i have like 5 backups.... i am anal about it !but yea, dont like to risk it ! so super stable !!!
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1875Mhz so far @ 9-11-9-27 1.5V

Cool, +rep what is the Ram actually rated for 1866mhz?

Yeah it's rated for 1866 at those timings and volts, reviews say it can do ~2,000Mhz at 1.6V and 2450 at 1.65V and higher timings. But each stick if different, though they used my exact kit wink.gifbiggrin.gif
 
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Yea. Now I'm running 3x 240mm rads, 2x 60mm fans on my VRM sink, & 1x 140mm fan on the back of the motherboard socket

haha... yeah... hitting those thermal issues myself... i thought my m5a99x evo would be the thing that held me back from 5ghz... that or my chip... i didn't expect to hit an above average chip (1.425V vcore, 4.8GHz), which cruised right up to 5.0+ ghz... only for temps to be out of this world even with those low voltages.

i'm sorta going back to the drawing board on this one. clearly it's a capable cpu... just the h100 isn't enough... plenty of cooling in the case, no issues with overheating vrms... no power issues... no ram issues. gonna have to look into cutting a hole in the motherboard tray and mounting a fan on the back of the case, see if i can take the temps down a bit from the backside. if that doesn't work i'll have to look into a custom loop. not sure it's worth it though. 4.8ghz is more then enough in the grand scheme of things. i just hate leaving it here when this cpu clearly has more under the hood.
 
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2685mhz 2 dimms http://valid.canardpc.com/2820780
I can run 16 gb in 4 dimms at 2400+mhz on the chv-z rig. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Wow, dude that is wicked!!!, you seem to get golden chips every time, where do you buy your stuff biggrin.gif
+ reps for all who replied my query, carry on!
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Wow, dude that is wicked!!!, you seem to get golden chips every time, where do you buy your stuff biggrin.gif

lol, I've been fortunate , it's true.
In the case of the memory score , it's as much to do with the CHV-Z as it is to do with the chip.

I can't get the other AM3+ boards I have to clock ram that high, I need to spend some time with them and see if I can at least come close.
I haven't been able to match memory frequency or timings with my Z68FTW and 3770K either, but I'm much less experienced with the blue team's stuff.
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So spill the beans Newegg, Microcenter????
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So spill the beans Newegg, Microcenter????

I believe all but the 1045T and the 840 phenom II came from New egg. Those 2 chips came from microcenter in Denver, a friend of mine picked them up for me whilst on vacation.
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I believe all but the 1045T and the 840 phenom II came from New egg. Those 2 chips came from microcenter in Denver, a friend of mine picked them up for me whilst on vacation.

Hah! I'm narrowing it down, and the 9370?
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I believe all but the 1045T and the 840 phenom II came from New egg. Those 2 chips came from microcenter in Denver, a friend of mine picked them up for me whilst on vacation.

Hah! I'm narrowing it down, and the 9370?

Not worth it unless you want a guaranteed 4.7Ghz chip.
 
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