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I'm not totally following, might be missing on some sarcasm. Is the Hyper 212 EVO not a good (or "proper") cooler? All of the reviews, etc. I read during my research said it was...but I could have been misled by numerous outlets, I guess.

Am I running this CPU too hard? Should I back it off to 4.0 instead of the 4.325? I am more than willing to pull back if it is in my best interest, I just need advice from you all whom know much more than I do.


For Intel chips with <95w TDP the cooler will do just fine.

These chips put out heat way beyond that.

A 212 evo is pretty much equal to the Stock cooler but no where near as loud.

if you want to stick to Air and have more of an over clock, you will need to upgrade to atleast a Dual Tower cooler (Noctua, phantiks etc) or go AIO (like the majority of people who havn't gone for custom loops have gone too.)

240mm rad AIO would be the next baby set up from dual tower air coolers. (single 120 or 140 might leave you with the same overclock)
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Its not about mid-level its about heat dissipation. the 8 cores put out a lot of heat.

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For Intel chips with <95w TDP the cooler will do just fine.

These chips put out heat way beyond that.

A 212 evo is pretty much equal to the Stock cooler but no where near as loud.

if you want to stick to Air and have more of an over clock, you will need to upgrade to atleast a Dual Tower cooler (Noctua, phantiks etc) or go AIO (like the majority of people who havn't gone for custom loops have gone too.)

240mm rad AIO would be the next baby set up from dual tower air coolers. (single 120 or 140 might leave you with the same overclock)

Oh okay, I'm following now. Thank you for explaining guys, I really do appreciate it...that is why I joined here earlier in the week, because I know I have a lot to learn (and I want to learn).

I'm not looking to have a super computer, per se, just yet. I just want a PC that can run demanding games at 60+ FPS. I will work my way into the water cooler, 5ghz, etc. as I gain more experience. As it stands, I am running a 280x GPU and getting 60+ FPS on Ultra on BF4 and for now. As a noob to all of this, that is good enough for me.

I guess my last two questions would be this: Keeping the EVO 212 cooler for now (it's only a week old lol), would you recommend I peel back at all from the 4.3 or 1.425V? Also, is the "max of 62 degrees" on the OP still relevant for my setup? I've had Prime 95 running for a while now and I am still at a max temp of 60 currently.
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4.6 on pcpartsbuilder with 488 ratings, 75% 5 starts (6279 ratings) on NewEgg....can it really be that bad? The 8320 is only a midlevel chip, why would I need something that rates out better than this one?

Not doubting your opinion, just new to this and looking to learn.

Although it's a cheaper chip it is the same as an 8350 core for core just binned less

You are at your limit for the cooler

The evo has been a plague with these chips at least what we have seen in the thread

Clock for clock 8320 is the same as 8350 only difference is that they may have to use more volts or put out more heat that is all. If you want an upgrade and have 100 bucks go with a 240 clc or go custom loop.

If you want to stay with air get at least a twin tower cooler. Other than that don't push it any further without better cooling

If you are stable now with that temp I would just leave it. You may want to oc the ram. But that card will hold most of what you need to do. From 4ghz to 5th I only got a 5fps difference
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The EVO is 5-8C better than the stock cooler. I would recommend dropping it down to 1.3685V since I max out@56C on IBT Very High and 52C on P95@4.35, 4.5 is 60C Core and outta the question. I am gonna get an H80 sooner or later tho since I want to get @4.6... I should have sold it earlier if I had known that by changing from Intel 3570K to 8320 it would be rendered less effective...
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I hit around 55-60c after Folding with it but i can't keep it as a 24/7 clock where i live due to Summer temps, I have a 4.5Ghz 24/7 clock atm and idle for that is 24c smile.gif
I'm at 1.62V for 5.19Ghz so not sure i want to push too hard, If i can hit 5.3 without disabling cores then i'll be over the moon tongue.gif

well your chip is better for mine.. for 5.1 I am at 1.68v under load.. I can get 5.3 but not 5.4 (even at 1.8v)

Wait as long as temps are in check, what's the max i could go on Vcore? (With out killing or damaging my chip) I was told 1.55V but now i am curious about more... ?
 
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So at the current time would I be able to get to 4.8ghz on any FX 8 core with an Antec 620 push pull?
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So at the current time would I be able to get to 4.8ghz on any FX 8 core with an Antec 620 push pull?

Which 8 core cpu? theirs a few and your sig doesn't say. Also that being a single 120 fan rad, if your voltage is low, then sure.
 
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Which 8 core cpu? theirs a few and your sig doesn't say. Also that being a single 120 fan rad, if your voltage is low, then sure.

No I don't have one yet, I'm trying to upgrade to either a 8320, 8350 or 9370 my current cooler is the antec 620 push/pull and was trying to examine the possibilities
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Playing with the 9370 a bit , I don't recall my other VIshera's being able to prime at 4.7ghz on 1.416 volts. It dropped 1 core after about 30 minutes, but I was still impressed. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Thanks for the help guys! I'll just be content with 4.6ghz. The h100 wouldn't cool much better than the D14 would it?
That is bloody impressive. What does it clock to when pushing 1.55-1.6v?

I'm still trying to nail that down to be honest. It will play games etc at 5.2 ghz at 1.53 volts under load. It's real finicky when I go over that voltage however, I think it might be something on the CHV-Z trying to protect itself.
I had it on my MSI 990FXA GD-80V2 with an h-100 and managed to get this http://valid.canardpc.com/s04jcj
Didn't try disabling cores , probably should have
I haven't gotten it nearly as high on my Asus board so far , which is why I think there is a safety setting that I need to change to allow it to go higher.

Also managed to garner a hardware cup on the bot with the MSI rig smile.gif http://hwbot.org/submission/2468846_
dear god, i might need to buys me one @
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I'm still trying to nail that down to be honest. It will play games etc at 5.2 ghz at 1.53 volts under load. It's real finicky when I go over that voltage however, I think it might be something on the CHV-Z trying to protect itself.
I had it on my MSI 990FXA GD-80V2 with an h-100 and managed to get this http://valid.canardpc.com/s04jcj
Didn't try disabling cores , probably should have
I haven't gotten it nearly as high on my Asus board so far , which is why I think there is a safety setting that I need to change to allow it to go higher.

Also managed to garner a hardware cup on the bot with the MSI rig smile.gif http://hwbot.org/submission/2468846_

Im also contemplating in trying to fry my cpu rolleyes.gif

If i do blow something cpu related are the other components safe?

tongue.gif

No, the house fire usually takes everything with it smile.gif

actually I think you would kill the motherboard or psu before you would kill the chip. But its the luck of the draw from what ive been told, if the cpu goes, it may take other things along for the ride.
yea this
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woah
the bloody evo biggrin.gif

i wouldnt touch it nomore, or itll be your house that goes lol

i wouldnt even prime it, its just begging to blow

thar she blows captain

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you sir, need to back away from your bios until you get a proper cooler.. no ifs ands or butts.. you are pretty much at the Vcore limit of that cooler if not slightly past.

I'm not totally following, might be missing on some sarcasm. Is the Hyper 212 EVO not a good (or "proper") cooler? All of the reviews, etc. I read during my research said it was...but I could have been misled by numerous outlets, I guess.

Am I running this CPU too hard? Should I back it off to 4.0 instead of the 4.325? I am more than willing to pull back if it is in my best interest, I just need advice from you all whom know much more than I do.
it is a great cooler, for $25, but not enough for these chips
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Its not about mid-level its about heat dissipation. the 8 cores put out a lot of heat.
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For Intel chips with <95w TDP the cooler will do just fine.

These chips put out heat way beyond that.

A 212 evo is pretty much equal to the Stock cooler but no where near as loud.

if you want to stick to Air and have more of an over clock, you will need to upgrade to atleast a Dual Tower cooler (Noctua, phantiks etc) or go AIO (like the majority of people who havn't gone for custom loops have gone too.)

240mm rad AIO would be the next baby set up from dual tower air coolers. (single 120 or 140 might leave you with the same overclock)
Oh okay, I'm following now. Thank you for explaining guys, I really do appreciate it...that is why I joined here earlier in the week, because I know I have a lot to learn (and I want to learn).

I'm not looking to have a super computer, per se, just yet. I just want a PC that can run demanding games at 60+ FPS. I will work my way into the water cooler, 5ghz, etc. as I gain more experience. As it stands, I am running a 280x GPU and getting 60+ FPS on Ultra on BF4 and for now. As a noob to all of this, that is good enough for me.

I guess my last two questions would be this: Keeping the EVO 212 cooler for now (it's only a week old lol), would you recommend I peel back at all from the 4.3 or 1.425V? Also, is the "max of 62 degrees" on the OP still relevant for my setup? I've had Prime 95 running for a while now and I am still at a max temp of 60 currently.
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I hit around 55-60c after Folding with it but i can't keep it as a 24/7 clock where i live due to Summer temps, I have a 4.5Ghz 24/7 clock atm and idle for that is 24c smile.gif
I'm at 1.62V for 5.19Ghz so not sure i want to push too hard, If i can hit 5.3 without disabling cores then i'll be over the moon tongue.gif

well your chip is better for mine.. for 5.1 I am at 1.68v under load.. I can get 5.3 but not 5.4 (even at 1.8v)

Wait as long as temps are in check, what's the max i could go on Vcore? (With out killing or damaging my chip) I was told 1.55V but now i am curious about more... ?

yea would not worry about it at all if you keep it below 62c, i have pushed 1.7v ( short times ) and didnt go higher because my mobo at the time bios wouldnt let me, that cap has since been lifted and people have pushed 1.8, i alas am not using that mobo for my 8350.. but may pick one up just to....
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I have an 8320 with EVO 212 cooler currently running at 4.32 @ 1.425V. Max temps are right at 62C while running Prime 95.

My question is this: Should I leave well enough alone with these clocks, or should I try for more? If I should try for more, what would my next steps be? Bump to 4.4 and see if I pass tests and stay under 62? If 4.4 fails, do I then try to bump the voltage to 1.435 and see if it passes then and stays at 62 or under? Then just continue this cycle repeating until I fail or run too hot?

I'm a noob at this and want to make sure I am going about this the right way.

are you using the bios or the ASUS overclock software to overclock that cpu?

cause that voltage is obscenely high for 4.3ghz... granted it could just be a poor overclocking chip... but most fx cpus (including that 8320) will hit 4.3-4.5ghz on stock voltage.
 
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