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you won't get a solid answer until they are released (around the time i said to wait for biggrin.gif i am I need me a new toy)


As far as Kaveri To FX

Hands down Kaveri > FX4XXX/6100

FX 6300 or better will likely be superior in Multi threaded tasks.

however if you are not doing editing of photos, video or audio, like actually putting the computer to work... there really isn't much reason to move past a quad core.

Kaveri will have an improved single threaded performance over the current FX series.

HSA is also a wildcard in Kaveri's favor

Also Support for 2400+ ram speeds.. another + for Kaveri

The APU's are the way forward now, I'm still hoping that AMD don't discontinue the FX line-up though, i like these things biggrin.gif
 
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the auto overclocking in the bios or by hand? is the vcore set to auto or manual?

By hand by adjusting the multiplier for CPU and voltage.

Upped the clock in the following manner:

- 3.5 @ 1.375V stock...passed 30 minutes Prime95, wasn't concerned but figured I'd run it just for the hell of it
- 4.0 @ 1.375V...passed Prime 95
- 4.1 @ 1.375V...passed Prime 95
- 4.2 @ 1.375V...failed Prime 95 in 5 to 7 minutes (crashed and restarted)
- 4.2 @ 1.4V...passed Prime 95
- 4.3 @ 1.4V...failed Prime 95 almost immediately (crashed and restarted)
- 4.3 @ 1.425V passed Prime 95, ran for 3 to 4 hours and peaked at 60 degrees, no failed cored

I will have to check vcore settings later bc I'm in the middle of running memtest86+ right now. My new PC started having issues last night while playing BF4 where it is just completely dying and turning off randomly. Thinking maybe its the PSU that went bad, but trying to cross all my t's and dot my i's while I was for Amazon to get me the new CX750M.
honestly that does not mean anything either ( to the one stating your vcore is too high ) whats your llc set at ?
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The APU's are the way forward now, I'm still hoping that AMD don't discontinue the FX line-up though, i like these things biggrin.gif

I think i'm part of a minority.

and in that saying..

AMD will not likely drop FX.

Maybe not even AM3+ (but please new chip set), it really depends on how Kaveri goes.

I think we are still waiting on some tech to mature before the beast chips get SteamrollerB.

if that involves a new socket so be it. I rather that over waiting 2+ year for the next FX incarnation.

I really think they are testing the waters in a big way with kaveri.

I wouldn't put it past AMD to pull a 1st gen Core2 quad move for Enthusiasts, (two Dies on one chip) prolly a horriable idea, but HSA could maybe help with that ?
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Might help us a little if you put your rig in your sig smile.gif

How to put your rig in your sig

I can hit 4.8Ghz Game Stable with just 1.40V but it takes 1.44 To make it Prime/IBT Stable
Something weird is going on with your set-up, you might just have a poor clocking chip as well frown.gif

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when you say passed, how long are you priming for? and what are you priming? Blend? smallFFT? Custom?

also!!!

RIGBUILDER!! top of the page right hand side..

we only know your cooler and Chip, not many will be able to help with that little info.

Great timing, I actually just finished adding my rig to my sig and then came back to see these posts. It is now in there.

As I said earlier, I am a huge noob so I very well may have my setting not optimized. I am more than willing to troubleshoot if you guys are willing to help me to figure it out.

I was priming for 1 to 2 hours and then moving up trying to find where I crashed at. Once I crashed, I found what I felt my "max" was and then ran the 4 to 5 hour test to say "Okay cool it's stable".
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honestly that does not mean anything either ( to the one stating your vcore is too high ) whats your llc set at ?

What is LLC? I'll google it but if you can put it in dumbass terms it will probably make it easier for me to find and understand. I'm waiting for Pass #2 on memtest86 then I will get this and post it up!

edit: apparently memtest has to run for 12 or more hours (???), so I guess I will post this up tomorrow.
Edited by InHartWeTrust - 12/29/13 at 5:09pm
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Great timing, I actually just finished adding my rig to my sig and then came back to see these posts. It is now in there.

As I said earlier, I am a huge noob so I very well may have my setting not optimized. I am more than willing to troubleshoot if you guys are willing to help me to figure it out.

I was priming for 1 to 2 hours and then moving up trying to find where I crashed at. Once I crashed, I found what I felt my "max" was and then ran the 4 to 5 hour test to say "Okay cool it's stable".
What is LLC? I'll google it but if you can put it in dumbass terms it will probably make it easier for me to find and understand. I'm waiting for Pass #2 on memtest86 then I will get this and post it up!

It is a setting in bios that add volts .. normally used to counteract vdroop.
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Originally Posted by Sgt Bilko View Post

Might help us a little if you put your rig in your sig smile.gif

How to put your rig in your sig

I can hit 4.8Ghz Game Stable with just 1.40V but it takes 1.44 To make it Prime/IBT Stable
Something weird is going on with your set-up, you might just have a poor clocking chip as well frown.gif

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Originally Posted by FlailScHLAMP View Post

when you say passed, how long are you priming for? and what are you priming? Blend? smallFFT? Custom?

also!!!

RIGBUILDER!! top of the page right hand side..

we only know your cooler and Chip, not many will be able to help with that little info.

Great timing, I actually just finished adding my rig to my sig and then came back to see these posts. It is now in there.

As I said earlier, I am a huge noob so I very well may have my setting not optimized. I am more than willing to troubleshoot if you guys are willing to help me to figure it out.

I was priming for 1 to 2 hours and then moving up trying to find where I crashed at. Once I crashed, I found what I felt my "max" was and then ran the 4 to 5 hour test to say "Okay cool it's stable".
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honestly that does not mean anything either ( to the one stating your vcore is too high ) whats your llc set at ?

What is LLC? I'll google it but if you can put it in dumbass terms it will probably make it easier for me to find and understand. I'm waiting for Pass #2 on memtest86 then I will get this and post it up!

llc load line calibration. basically voltage drops by design under load, so you dont fry the chip, however with the current tech we dont need vdrop as much, so it boosts voltage an amount that varies between manufactures, even between boards, usually high or ultra is good for the fx8350s it will put you at or around voltage set in bios
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llc load line calibration. basically voltage drops by design under load, so you dont fry the chip, however with the current tech we dont need vdrop as much, so it boosts voltage an amount that varies between manufactures, even between boards, usually high or ultra is good for the fx8350s it will put you at or around voltage set in bios

Hehe this. Was to lazy to type that out.

Ultra high normally goes above set voltage. We look at voltage under load rather than voltage set due to this feature
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It is a setting in bios that add volts .. normally used to counteract vdroop.

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llc load line calibration. basically voltage drops by design under load, so you dont fry the chip, however with the current tech we dont need vdrop as much, so it boosts voltage an amount that varies between manufactures, even between boards, usually high or ultra is good for the fx8350s it will put you at or around voltage set in bios

Thanks, fellas. Tomorrow once memtest is finished running over I will post up all the frequency and voltage settings from my BIOS so that we can work through this.

Kind of off topic, but with my thoughts that my PSU is bad (seeing that the computer is just shutting itself off randomly starting last night), could that potentially be playing into this? If so, the new CX750M will be here Tuesday so that might help us to make some progress.
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well you would need a new Motherboard for those processors. so...

wait 2 or 3 weeks and grab a Kaveri with a A88x or a A55 board and use your cooler and ram, and everything else.



you would need a massive overhaul to go with FX series (atleast anything greater then a 6300) your VRMs likely will cry and die if you try to OC at all.

Also Is there a reason you need more cores? Way more efficient and faster cores should do you quite nice.

Actually no my Mobo is FX officially compatible up to 8350
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you won't get a solid answer until they are released (around the time i said to wait for biggrin.gif i am I need me a new toy)


As far as Kaveri To FX

Hands down Kaveri > FX4XXX/6100

FX 6300 or better will likely be superior in Multi threaded tasks.

however if you are not doing editing of photos, video or audio, like actually putting the computer to work... there really isn't much reason to move past a quad core.

Kaveri will have an improved single threaded performance over the current FX series.

HSA is also a wildcard in Kaveri's favor

Also Support for 2400+ ram speeds.. another + for Kaveri

So aside from a golden 9370 my other option is a 8350, but I'm soo tempted to get a 6300 but I want to crossfire down the road
I could be wrong but I figure my mobo can handle the 9370 though
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Great timing, I actually just finished adding my rig to my sig and then came back to see these posts. It is now in there.

As I said earlier, I am a huge noob so I very well may have my setting not optimized. I am more than willing to troubleshoot if you guys are willing to help me to figure it out.

I was priming for 1 to 2 hours and then moving up trying to find where I crashed at. Once I crashed, I found what I felt my "max" was and then ran the 4 to 5 hour test to say "Okay cool it's stable".
What is LLC? I'll google it but if you can put it in dumbass terms it will probably make it easier for me to find and understand. I'm waiting for Pass #2 on memtest86 then I will get this and post it up!

It is still possible to be unstable after only and hour or two of prime. My personal preference for prime is 8h+, but i generally don't have that kinda of time to donate to testing. so I give it a battery of AVX IBT (check first post in thread for D/L link)

Set to Max memory and have it run for 10 runs. that takes me about an hour or so for 4gb of ramm. IBT tests slightly differently then Prime so you don't need to test it for as long. however, both are recommend to be able to claim Full stable.

Also which option did you test under? the default one?

I'm not the best with Gigabyte boards, but as for what Mega is mentioning. there are settings for Line Load Calibration somewhere in your bios. IIRC there are three options other then auto

Maybe Kyad can correct me he is likely the most experienced with your model board, but the middle option is generally prefer, as the top LLC and auto generally will vboost you too much. and the first option might not be enough..


Might be the easiest to help if you can nab screen shots of your Bios settings for us. I know Asus has a screen shot in bios option for F12 i think. check in your bios to see if that is in option

that way we can guide you away from the evil AUTO where needed.
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