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Hey guys,
found this thread by google. I've recently set up a FX-System consisting of following components

  • Asrock 990FX Extreme 4 Board
  • FX-8320 (1334 PGN )
  • Mushkin 2 x 8 GB DDR3-2400 @ 11-14-14-31-44 @ 1.65 V

I've been playing around the last few days with overclocking the system and found following Settings to be prime stable so far

  • 200 x 20 = 4 GHz
  • HT 2600 MHz
  • NB 2600 MHz
  • VCore 1,35 V (1,252 V in CPU-Z @ load)
  • CPU NB Voltage 1,3 V
  • NB Voltage 1,16 V
  • HT Voltage 1,2
  • DRAM @ 1866 and 11-14-14-31-44

CoreTemp is running at about 45 °C under Prime-Load. But for the love of god, I am not able to get my RAM stable at its rated settings (DDR3-2400 @ 11-14-14-31-44). At 1,65 V I am not even able to boot into windows. I have to bump the DIMM-Voltage all the way up to 1,75 V to get the system into windows. The second Prime95-load is applied, the system freezes.

Any suggestions on which voltage I have to bump, to get the 2400 MHz stable?

Not the voltage imo, tRas and tRC are too low for the other latency settings.
Try bumping tRC up 1 at a time first. OR start with 11-14-14-39-53 and work your way back down.
You may be better off running that ram at a lower Mhz with tighter cas. I have a friend that runs 4.6 cpu and 2400cas9 ram on a As3, so I can confidently say it's not the mobo.

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Hey guys,
found this thread by google. I've recently set up a FX-System consisting of following components

  • Asrock 990FX Extreme 4 Board
  • FX-8320 (1334 PGN )
  • Mushkin 2 x 8 GB DDR3-2400 @ 11-14-14-31-44 @ 1.65 V

I've been playing around the last few days with overclocking the system and found following Settings to be prime stable so far

  • 200 x 20 = 4 GHz
  • HT 2600 MHz
  • NB 2600 MHz
  • VCore 1,35 V (1,252 V in CPU-Z @ load)
  • CPU NB Voltage 1,3 V
  • NB Voltage 1,16 V
  • HT Voltage 1,2
  • DRAM @ 1866 and 11-14-14-31-44

CoreTemp is running at about 45 °C under Prime-Load. But for the love of god, I am not able to get my RAM stable at its rated settings (DDR3-2400 @ 11-14-14-31-44). At 1,65 V I am not even able to boot into windows. I have to bump the DIMM-Voltage all the way up to 1,75 V to get the system into windows. The second Prime95-load is applied, the system freezes.
Any suggestions on which voltage I have to bump, to get the 2400 MHz stable?
Note: i wouldn't use Coretemp for anything meaningful regarding temps. It's a very Intel-centric tool. AMD doesn't have real temp sensors.

First: 2400Mhz stable? Good luck, even though it's only 2 sticks. I would stick to 1600 or 1866 (or 2000/2133) with super tight timings.

Second: DRAM @ 1866 and 11-14-14-31-44
Last time I checked, AMD is quite happy with 32-47 or around that.
On the other hand, if your stick does 2400 at those timings, they are way too too "loose" (high-numbered) for 1866. You can do a lot better than that with those sticks.

Third: No amount of voltage will make 2400 work if the IMC can't drive it. you will blow the ram/IMC before.

Any RAM guru can correct me, this is just my personal experience with my Crucial sticks.
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Note: i wouldn't use Coretemp for anything meaningful regarding temps. It's a very Intel-centric tool. AMD doesn't have real temp sensors.

First: 2400Mhz stable? Good luck, even though it's only 2 sticks. I would stick to 1600 or 1866 (or 2000/2133) with super tight timings.

Second: DRAM @ 1866 and 11-14-14-31-44
Last time I checked, AMD is quite happy with 32-47 or around that.
On the other hand, if your stick does 2400 at those timings, they are way too too "loose" (high-numbered) for 1866. You can do a lot better than that with those sticks.

Third: No amount of voltage will make 2400 work if the IMC can't drive it. you will blow the ram/IMC before.

Any RAM guru can correct me, this is just my personal experience with my Crucial sticks.

I can do 2400 can 9 like buttah
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I can do 2400 can 9 like buttah
Nice. How about my question though? (probably got swallowed by the ram quote stuff)
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Nice. How about my question though? (probably got swallowed by the ram quote stuff)

The answer is 42

It more depends on the task at hand. Also the difference in clocks and voltage.. I'm not too sure about what would be optimal
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How is it cooled? It's a long story that started last April when I got this case. I have spent a lot of time in the air cooling forum learning what it takes. Basically it has 4 intake fans in front and a big gaping hole in the back. Then there is the Silverstone Heligon HE01 cpu cooler with 2-140x38 @ 140cfm fans. Think of it as a wind tunnel with some electronic stuff in it. And yes that is a large paper towel that got sucked into the front of the case while stress testing.




How is it powered? Well there is the 850w Seasonic psu, and the MSI 990FXA GD80 motherboard is rated for the 9590 with the later bios and runs nice and cool with all that air flow. And it is rated at 220w now.
I underestimated the size of the CPU cooler when I googled it originally. Holy moses that thing is large. :O

Got me thinking, I wonder how I am powering my chip? Theoretically an 8350 at 4.7 should be similar to a 9570 amirite?

And the TA970 is NOT by any means an expensive quality board. <$80
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Source?
I'd think twice about rma'ing that chip if it can prime at 4.9ghz on air.

I've pushed over 1.72 volts through 3 different 8 cores on my GD-80 without any sign of faultering power. How are you overclocking it? Are you using core center or click bios?

Source. Click to expand.
http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=7777bc3c17029328d03146e0ed767841&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overclock.net%2Ft%2F1442187%2Fneed-some-help-with-an-overclock-on-amd-fx-8350-vishera%2F30&v=1&libId=11865b23-d08b-468f-b58a-147f88b7abf6&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techpowerup.com%2Fforums%2Fthreads%2Ffx-8350-brick-wall.175144%2Fpage-3&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overclock.net%2Ff%2F10%2Famd-cpus&title=Need%20some%20help%2C%20with%20an%20Overclock%20on%20AMD%20FX-8350%20Vishera%20-%20Page%204&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techpowerup.com%2Fforums%2Fthreads%2Ffx-8350-brick-wall.175144%2Fpage-3&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13891363285438

That chip was never stable. Not at 4.9, 4.8, but maybe at 4.7. It BSOD constantly and trashed the hard drives doing it. Its max vcore with no BSOD was 1.55, which delivered 1.496v after vdroop.

I use Click Bios II. I am back on the 8350 now at 1.638v in CBII which means 1.528v under load. For some reason this 8350 gets a lot of vdroop and the 9590 does not.

2nds: It's not that big for a twin tower cooler. That is not a big case and it took some searching to find a cooler that would fit. Some are wider and some are taller and most cover the ram.

They are not that similar. Seriously, it takes a board that costs at least twice as much as that TA970 to handle a 9590.
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Wait Wait Wait hold on here now Im oc'ed to 4.8ghz stable now this is going to sound hilarious but its quite interesting i have a hunch but i wont say it yet so as i am oc'ed I can not play Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
candy crush saga on FB using water fox or any other browsers
my comp will black screen and do nothing lol i think it hilarious so i want to know if anyone else can play it just fine overclocked high i can pass any stress test just fine but can not manage to play that stupid game i can play mortal kombat all day long on 1080p for hours on end but as soon as i try that game my whole system becomes unresponsive I have tryed everything to fix it drivers virus scans u name it even extra volts lulz the only way i can get it to work though is to set bios defaults buwahaha can anyone else try to play it ?
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Source?
I'd think twice about rma'ing that chip if it can prime at 4.9ghz on air.

I've pushed over 1.72 volts through 3 different 8 cores on my GD-80 without any sign of faultering power. How are you overclocking it? Are you using core center or click bios?

Source. Click to expand.
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That chip was never stable. Not at 4.9, 4.8, but maybe at 4.7. It BSOD constantly and trashed the hard drives doing it. Its max vcore with no BSOD was 1.55, which delivered 1.496v after vdroop.

I use Click Bios II. I am back on the 8350 now at 1.638v in CBII which means 1.528v under load. For some reason this 8350 gets a lot of vdroop and the 9590 does not.

2nds: It's not that big for a twin tower cooler. That is not a big case and it took some searching to find a cooler that would fit. Some are wider and some are taller and most cover the ram.

They are not that similar. Seriously, it takes a board that costs at least twice as much as that TA970 to handle a 9590.

Clickbios hasn't worked well at all for me, I have better luck with control center. What version of control center/click bios are you using? Also what bios are you on? I'm on bios 11.13 and CC 2.5.056 maybe that's where the difference lies.

If you have all the power saving mombo jumbo turned off, the board should burn itself to the ground before easing up on the voltage. In all my shenanigans, I've never seen the board throttle.
Something sure doesn't add up. http://valid.canardpc.com/s04jcj
EDIT: the article you quoted was referring to ASUS boards, which have OCP protection , both GD-80's I've had have no OCP
Edited by cssorkinman - 1/7/14 at 8:36pm
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still, how would the board causing the chip to bsod mean the chip is bad... ( in this hypothetical world )
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Swiftech Apogee HD Windows 7 Windows 8 LG E2242 
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