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sometimes physics just dont work mate, just go with the flow.

I think that's what got some jimmies rustled, I was like doh.gif and hmmsmiley02.gif when reading it.
Thats just silly.


no ones "convicting you" this is a forum, not a courthouse, you can do what you please but they were trying to give you advice to your question and trying to help you improve your rig, seriously what other motives would there be to be "hey maybe you should try your fans this way"
your airflow works, but could it be better? sure and thats what they were trying to say, but then you say the above.




more ontopic stuff, would I see any performance increase if I OC my Ram from 1600 to 1866 or 2000? my 8320 is at 4.1 on stock volts, I haven't bothered trying above 4.6 until I get a new cooler.
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I think that's what got some jimmies rustled, I was like doh.gif and hmmsmiley02.gif when reading it.
Thats just silly.


no ones "convicting you" this is a forum, not a courthouse, you can do what you please but they were trying to give you advice to your question and trying to help you improve your rig, seriously what other motives would there be to be "hey maybe you should try your fans this way"
your airflow works, but could it be better? sure and thats what they were trying to say, but then you say the above.




more ontopic stuff, would I see any performance increase if I OC my Ram from 1600 to 1866 or 2000? my 8320 is at 4.1 on stock volts, I haven't bothered trying above 4.6 until I get a new cooler.
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Originally Posted by Sadmoto View Post

I think that's what got some jimmies rustled, I was like doh.gif and hmmsmiley02.gif when reading it.
Thats just silly.


no ones "convicting you" this is a forum, not a courthouse, you can do what you please but they were trying to give you advice to your question and trying to help you improve your rig, seriously what other motives would there be to be "hey maybe you should try your fans this way"
your airflow works, but could it be better? sure and thats what they were trying to say, but then you say the above.




more ontopic stuff, would I see any performance increase if I OC my Ram from 1600 to 1866 or 2000? my 8320 is at 4.1 on stock volts, I haven't bothered trying above 4.6 until I get a new cooler.
I'm using G.skill 4gb x 2 (PC3-12800)1600Mhz 9-9-9-24 1.5v

giver on the ram, gskills normally OC well, i wouldn't be surprised if you could get hose to 2133

http://forum-en.msi.com/faq/article/ddr3-memory-timings-explained

there's some useful reference material!
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how is AIO the worse thing for durability?? you keep it clean it work fine just like everything else

air coolers are not the best and be all end all option.

Really?

I am talking about the closed "Wcoolers", like H80/H100 and other variants.

Not pure WC.

But i think you actually understood, so let me explain why with two simples reason´s:

- Closed system´s, without any possibilty of maintenance;

- Very weak pumps;

Combine both and you have a cooler that hopefully, will last the warranty period.

Any pure WC entusiast will agree with me.

WC is almost a perfect solution, if you spend the money on quality components and time with maintenance.

When you buy an "AIO WC" or "Wcoolers" as i call them, you are not doing anything of that, are you?

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Oooohh. That is very useful material!

Yes overclocking the ram will help performance. The consensus I have heard is that 1866 is the sweet spot and it helps less beyond that.

I am currently running my G Skills at 1960mhz.
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Originally Posted by Tasm View Post

Really?

I am talking about the closed "Wcoolers", like H80/H100 and other variants.

Not pure WC.

But i think you actually understand, so let me explain why with two simples reason´s:

- Closed system´s, without any possibilty of maintenance;

- Very weak pumps;

Combine both and you have a cooler that hopefully, will last the warranty period.

Any pure WC entusiast will agree with me.

WC is almost a perfect solution, if you spend the money on quality components and time with maintenance.

When you buy an "AIO WC" or "Wcoolers" as i call them, you are not doing anything of that, are you?

thumb.gif

I'm using an h100i , while not a CLC class cooler, i look at it like this for my rig.

I know what my processor can and cannot do. and my H100i might be a touch overkill as anything beyond 4.7 is a no go.


so do i need a CLC grade pump, no.

and your first point is only valid if you restrict yourself to inside the box thinking.

they have mod potential, like swiftech H series and coolermaster glacier series. if you want to get nitty gritty and add your own quick disconnects all you need is a tube which all of them have.


if it last past its warranty great, if it doesn't oh well its not a big deal..

nothing against full loop, they are better, but not everyone needs them. nor wants to deal with them. AIOs are a nice go between for Air and CLC.

not to mention if you have any kind of interchangeability in your rig, clc will Kaibosh that.. like a test rig like i have @ work. My 1 aio cooler can work on any socket i am likely to work on. so i can install updates and go find an air compressor to deal with the stock cooler that is beyond dust ridden.

custom loops are not the be all end all solution.. sorry
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.... perhaps... I need more help than I thought building my custom loop... wow at the options... maybe as time grows closer I'll go over to the water cooling section and start a thread... pump, hose, fluid, good fittings etc... sooo many options... I saw a rad I liked the looks of... but the only review says its bad... sad.. its sooo pretty lol... http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17615/ex-rad-456/Coolgate_Triple_120mm_Ultimate_Heat_Exchanger_Radiator_-_Copper_Edition_CG-360CuP.html?tl=g30

well.. I'm off for lunch now... but if anyone has used this and disagrees with the review let me know.. although... a nice thick triple 120 thats solid black would match my system better... sooo many choices ugh... I like the idea of that one though because it has no paint on it to interfere with heat transfer like some I've seen
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlailScHLAMP View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasm View Post

Really?

I am talking about the closed "Wcoolers", like H80/H100 and other variants.

Not pure WC.

But i think you actually understand, so let me explain why with two simples reason´s:

- Closed system´s, without any possibilty of maintenance;

- Very weak pumps;

Combine both and you have a cooler that hopefully, will last the warranty period.

Any pure WC entusiast will agree with me.

WC is almost a perfect solution, if you spend the money on quality components and time with maintenance.

When you buy an "AIO WC" or "Wcoolers" as i call them, you are not doing anything of that, are you?

thumb.gif

I'm using an h100i , while not a CLC class cooler, i look at it like this for my rig.

I know what my processor can and cannot do. and my H100i might be a touch overkill as anything beyond 4.7 is a no go.


so do i need a CLC grade pump, no.

and your first point is only valid if you restrict yourself to inside the box thinking.

they have mod potential, like swiftech H series and coolermaster glacier series. if you want to get nitty gritty and add your own quick disconnects all you need is a tube which all of them have.


if it last past its warranty great, if it doesn't oh well its not a big deal..

nothing against full loop, they are better, but not everyone needs them. nor wants to deal with them. AIOs are a nice go between for Air and CLC.

not to mention if you have any kind of interchangeability in your rig, clc will Kaibosh that.. like a test rig like i have @ work. My 1 aio cooler can work on any socket i am likely to work on. so i can install updates and go find an air compressor to deal with the stock cooler that is beyond dust ridden.

custom loops are not the be all end all solution.. sorry

CLC stands for "Closed Loop Cooling", not "Custom Loop Cooling", just fyi. CLC generally refers to AIOs, or pre-made kits. Custom and DIY Kits are "Open Loops".
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CLC stands for "Closed Loop Cooling", not "Custom Loop Cooling", just fyi. CLC generally refers to AIOs, or pre-made kits. Custom and DIY Kits are "Open Loops".

my bad, thought the first C was custom.
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CLC stands for "Closed Loop Cooling", not "Custom Loop Cooling", just fyi. CLC generally refers to AIOs, or pre-made kits. Custom and DIY Kits are "Open Loops".

my bad, thought the first C was custom.

It's fine, I understood what you meant, but it could cause communication problems elsewhere. tongue.gif
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