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Can I do all multiplier to 4.8GHz or do I need to fiddle with the Bus/BLCK? I am going to break it in with a 4.6Ghz 1.435V + 130% + No Power Saving/C6/etc + Very High LLC and then bump the voltage to 1.475 for 4.8...
All multi will be just fine. I've used all multi up to 5.2GHz
 
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for those clocks, indefinitely.
where is your proof?



1.488v isn't really that much for these chips if you've got proper cooling, my cooler (h100i just like yours) can keep withing the 60^c-70^c range under 1.6v+ while running prime or IBT.

Word of the wise, turn off your LLC or set it to the lowest setting and then work with that.

extreme LLC is more for, yup you guessed it extreme overclocking. unless your packing LN2 or LH or maybe even a phase changer you need not be concerned with extreme anything, in terms of settings at least.


the average FX 83XX shouldn't require beyond 1.44 after LLC for 4.6 (my fall back profile @ 4.6ghz has a setting of 1.38v in bios + very high LLC @ 120% [stupid amount of settings on this CHVFZ] )

Voltage isn't exactly these processors first second or third concern.. if you keep the chip comfortably cool you can pretty much run then at whatever voltage and clocks your cooling and chip can handle respectively

ask Alatar (sorry if i spelt your name wrong). how much Voltage he is feeding his FX's when he is benching. (psst, he is the poster jesting about washing a Crosshair V formula.)

I'm fairly certain atleast half the regulars are over the 1.55v mark wink.gif

Makes sence, now,

I'm referring myself to the first page on this thread which has charts of people running 8320's. That was my proof... Also on the first page, it pretty much indicates 1.55v MAX, I didn't invent that.
Now fine, if these chips CAN handle more... It's not indicated on the "Official-FX8320-8350 owners club thread"



So what kind of temps can these chips actually run at before I start worrying. Because over 1.5x v, for me. I'm sure going to be over 60c @ max Load.

So right now, I have ambient 23-24c in an Antec 900

H100i / Pull / Balanced mode installed in the front behind the Antec Tri-cool Intakes.

Edit: BTW: I like to keep my systems at least 3 years before upgrades
Edited by HellyHans - 1/15/14 at 3:54pm
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Makes sence, now,

I'm referring myself to the first page on this thread which has charts of people running 8320's. That was my proof... Also on the first page, it pretty much indicates 1.55v MAX, I didn't invent that.
Now fine, if these chips CAN handle more... It's not indicated on the "Official-FX8320-8350 owners club thread"



So what kind of temps can these chips actually run at before I start worrying. Because over 1.5x v, for me. I'm sure going to be over 60c @ max Load.

So right now, I have ambient 23-24c in an Antec 900

H100i / Pull / Balanced mode installed in the front behind the Antec Tri-cool Intakes.

Edit: BTW: I like to keep my systems at least 3 years before upgrades

like i said in my previous posts, you should likely reseat your cooler ( take the block off your processor, clean them both, re apply and re mount)

you will likely get the best mount with out having the rad mounted to your case. the mounting for AM3+ suck donkeys.. and the tubing is JUST ridged enough to make it so that your mount will muck up if your not paying attention.

if you know what your doing (or learn, whichever) those basic guidelines for nubs can generally be ignored.


@ what RPM are your corsair fans running and the two front antec fnas?
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like i said in my previous posts, you should likely reseat your cooler ( take the block off your processor, clean them both, re apply and re mount)

you will likely get the best mount with out having the rad mounted to your case. the mounting for AM3+ suck donkeys.. and the tubing is JUST ridged enough to make it so that your mount will muck up if your not paying attention.

if you know what your doing (or learn, whichever) those basic guidelines for nubs can generally be ignored.


@ what RPM are your corsair fans running and the two front antec fnas?

not a noob, I work IT, lol it's just my first WC setup with a FX chip...Noob in that domain yes. My last 955 BE, I had better results easily.

My 2 fans on balanced are at:
Idle : 1650
Load: 1850-1900

I did notice the damn install for the CPU block was a pain... I will try a reseat tomorrow.. I don't have TIM @ home, I have some MX-3 @ work, so I will bring it back.

Right now, my settings are:

4.6ghz
Vcore: 1.443
LLC: Medium
@ load I get 1.416v with 49c P95 for 10 mins

I've tried Vcore Auto (defaults to 1.392)
LLC medium = BSOD
LLC Auto = BSOD
LLC Extreme= Vcore @ load 1.440
50-53c P95 stable
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not a noob, I work IT, lol it's just my first WC setup with a FX chip...Noob in that domain yes. My last 955 BE, I had better results easily.

My 2 fans on balanced are at:
Idle : 1650
Load: 1850-1900

I did notice the damn install for the CPU block was a pain... I will try a reseat tomorrow.. I don't have TIM @ home, I have some MX-3 @ work, so I will bring it back.

Right now, my settings are:

4.6ghz
Vcore: 1.443
LLC: Medium
@ load I get 1.416v with 49c P95 for 10 mins


I've tried Vcore Auto (defaults to 1.392)
LLC medium = BSOD
LLC Auto = BSOD
LLC Extreme= Vcore @ load 1.440
50-53c P95 stable

auto Vcore can be a bad thing. tongue.gif

those volts and temps are getting closer.

I would suggest 1.41v range with High llc. maybe less vcore then that is required.

also, AVX IBT might be a better bet for short testing, less then a hour sorta thing. prime WILL generate more heat BUT it takes more time to do so.

running AVX IBT using 90% of available memory will get your closer to that max thermal faster.

maybe this is personal preference but for FX cores, prime can be a bit of a pain when testing new Ocs so i tend to leave it near then end when i know it will pass everything IBT can throw at it.
Edited by FlailScHLAMP - 1/15/14 at 4:48pm
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so back a few pages, whats this Vid yall speak of? is it the cpu vid hwinfo64 reports? because all my cores vids are 1.4v
stock voltage of the processor without any power saving features applied.

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To be honest I dont put much stock in VID voltages for our FX processors. But some people do. All I do when I get a processor is I don't check VID, I just push the throttles to the wall man!wheee.gif What it manages it manages. I don't like looking at VID's because if you get a processor with a bad VID you already get this horrible sense of foreboding that tells you its gonna be a poor clocker. I would rather just OC from start and be pleasantly surprised if I get a "Goldie".biggrin.gif

I only know because i checked then, not something i really look at tbh.........and i seem to have fixed my CF PCIe 2.0 x8 problem, i swapped the cards around, put the one that draws less power and produces less heat on top, in doing so i must have seated them a bit better, both are running in x16 now biggrin.gif

Although for some reason Crossfire option is now unavailable.........
Why do I feel like the only person who never has drivers issues with AMD cards? I mean my 6850's have never given me issues. I only had one issue back with my 5770's not crossfiring and all I did was take one card out, start up with one card. Then put the other card back in and it was working! So yeah! Lol... I feel like I have sort of miracle computer that never has driver issues:p
i am with you no problems ever ...
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Flashing process means using @BIOS in windows and selecting the bios file you want.

Every UD and UP series motherboard from Gigabyte, as well as every "Name" board (Sniper series, etc) has "Dual BIOS". You mess up the flash, it pulls a copy from the 2nd and fixes the first.

Me and my employee just did a newer flash on his UD7 *i thnk* just now and it is stupid simple lol thanks

You laugh now, I had to talk someone who's never built a computer before through making a FreeDOS disk on USB to boot from it to launch the ASUS DOS BIOS updater in order to fix the bios because while it was corrupt, it would post and he couldn't install an OS. I also had to walk him through how to actually flash the BIOS itself, with no experience on my part for how the tool works before hand and no board to test on. Over TeamSpeak.

It worked, and the board lived a whole 24 hours before it died for other reasons. Fun times... People dis on @BIOS, but it and the way basically every OEM do it now are massively easy in comparison. While I would never trust @BIOS's internet updater, it's still nice.

Also, when using @BIOS, profiles are saved when you back up a BIOS to the file, so you can literally give someone else your settings if they have the same board/revision.

i did not know it saves the profiles that is awesome ill have to remember that
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Can someone answer a question that's been niggling me for a few days..... but am unable to find the answer myself!

Why do I see a lot of Saberkitty owners using an older than latest Bios? Just curious - as I thought it would be best to upgrade when the revision notes include something along the lines 'fixes stability issues'
In the case of the CHV-FZ, I know for a fact the latest 1801 BIOS is somewhat less OC-friendly, tending to top out@4.7 for some members..

@King. Nowadays on ASUS its just *Insert USB stick with BIOS file renamed to (ex:RIVBE.cap, CH5FZ.cap, M6F.cap) and press a button for two secs, wait till the drive stops flashing and press the power button.
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not a noob, I work IT, lol it's just my first WC setup with a FX chip...Noob in that domain yes. My last 955 BE, I had better results easily.

My 2 fans on balanced are at:
Idle : 1650
Load: 1850-1900

I did notice the damn install for the CPU block was a pain... I will try a reseat tomorrow.. I don't have TIM @ home, I have some MX-3 @ work, so I will bring it back.

Right now, my settings are:

4.6ghz
Vcore: 1.443
LLC: Medium
@ load I get 1.416v with 49c P95 for 10 mins


I've tried Vcore Auto (defaults to 1.392)
LLC medium = BSOD
LLC Auto = BSOD
LLC Extreme= Vcore @ load 1.440
50-53c P95 stable

auto Vcore can be a bad thing. tongue.gif

those volts and temps are getting closer.

I would suggest 1.41v range with High llc. maybe less vcore then that is required.

also, AVX IBT might be a better bet for short testing, less then a hour sorta thing. prime WILL generate more heat BUT it takes more time to do so.

running AVX IBT using 90% of available memory will get your closer to that max thermal faster.

maybe this is personal preference but for FX cores, prime can be a bit of a pain when testing new Ocs so i tend to leave it near then end when i know it will pass everything IBT can throw at it.

agreed 100%
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auto Vcore can be a bad thing. tongue.gif

those volts and temps are getting closer.

I would suggest 1.41v range with High llc. maybe less vcore then that is required.

also, AVX IBT might be a better bet for short testing, less then a hour sorta thing. prime WILL generate more heat BUT it takes more time to do so.

running AVX IBT using 90% of available memory will get your closer to that max thermal faster.

maybe this is personal preference but for FX cores, prime can be a bit of a pain when testing new O:)cs so i tend to leave it near then end when i know it will pass everything IBT can throw at it.

Ok thanks I will try that.

High LLC for you is extreme?
My MB has STD,LOW,MED,EXTREME,AUTO.
I will try 1.41 with extreme

Now concerning my question on max thermals these cpu's can withstand... What should I be keeping it under with a full load?
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Ok thanks I will try that.

High LLC for you is extreme?
My MB has STD,LOW,MED,EXTREME,AUTO.
I will try 1.41 with extreme

Now concerning my question on max thermals these cpu's can withstand... What should I be keeping it under with a full load?

no.. don't do extreme.. sorry there are more option for me. (crosshair )

try it 1.41 +med LLC see what you come up with.. if it fails give the vcore one more notch until it passes.(repeat if needed)

we already know that extreme on your board really is 0 to 60 extreme tongue.gif lol
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no.. don't do extreme.. sorry there are more option for me. (crosshair )

try it 1.41 +med LLC see what you come up with.. if it fails give the vcore one more notch until it passes.(repeat if needed)

we already know that extreme on your board really is 0 to 60 extreme tongue.gif lol

Ok I just ran some quick tests

Results:

Test :1
  • Vcore in BIOS: 1.412
  • LLC Med
  • Vcore during load 1.40
BSOD during first IBT STD

Test : 2
  • Vcore in BIOS: 1.4250
  • LLC Med
  • Vcore during load 1.416
Fail IBT std within 2 mins

I'm guessing medium LLC for me is dropping my Vcore during load way to much.

Shouldn't I be trying to get as close to my BIOS setting Vcore as possible during load?
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stock voltage of the processor without any power saving features applied.

so this is basically means stock voltages on auto ? all settings stock including clock freq right? does this mean also auto llc? and is this vid the voltage at idle or max load?. Does a higher vid = terrible clock/voltage ratio terrible meaning requires more power and what effects positive or negative does a chip that requires more power for higher clocks have on the thermal capacity of the chip it self e.g oh snap my chip needs more V to = higher clock = ?c = performance perhaps this is an architecture that can handle a lot more abuse than we are used to, I haven't heard anyone claim their chip fx has died or that they have fed this chip so much voltage that its degraded. All i seem to hear read and see that these chips will consume as much power as you feed them I wonder if their is a point where the fx 8000 chip reach and performs the same regardless of model I would like to see someone @ 4.8ghz or higher run IBT 40 times and record the Gflops and time maybe temps to btw ibt avx generates more heat than prime 95
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Samsung 500GB Evo MZ-75E500B/AM Seagate  Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS NZXT Kraken X61 RL-KRX61-01 280mm 
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NZXT Kraken X41 RL-KRX41-01 140mm NZXT Kraken G10 NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM, 140mm PWM,AAO Frame Techn... NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM, 140mm PWM,AAO Frame Techn... 
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NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM, 140mm PWM,AAO Frame Techn... NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM, 140mm PWM,AAO Frame Techn... Windows 7 x64 Pro HP W2207 
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Genius Corsair AX860i Corsair Graphite CC600TWM-WHT  Genius 
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FX 8370 5Ghz 2600/2600 32GB 24/7 Prime95 Stable... Asus Sabertooth 990fx r2.0 ASUS Radeon R9 390 DirectX 12 R9390-DC2-8GD5 8GB  CMY32GX3M4A2400C11R 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 500GB Evo MZ-75E500B/AM Seagate  Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS NZXT Kraken X61 RL-KRX61-01 280mm 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
NZXT Kraken X41 RL-KRX41-01 140mm NZXT Kraken G10 NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM, 140mm PWM,AAO Frame Techn... NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM, 140mm PWM,AAO Frame Techn... 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM, 140mm PWM,AAO Frame Techn... NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM, 140mm PWM,AAO Frame Techn... Windows 7 x64 Pro HP W2207 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Genius Corsair AX860i Corsair Graphite CC600TWM-WHT  Genius 
AudioAudioOther
FiiO E07K ANDES Sennheiser Momentum Over Ear Purex PXR-301 6-Slot SuperSpeed USB 3.0 Interna... 
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