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some where around the 1.61-1.62v range?

1.65v if memory serves (at work atm)
 
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I was just recently pondering if anyone even OC'd by the bus clock anymore lol... I've got my bus clock at 250 right now and multi at 18 to get 4.5... just experimenting at coming from a different angle at my OC's... seems more stable this way and on some benches has shown slight improvement... cinebench R 11.5 I got 7.74 vs 7.70 before with just multi... not much I know... not really conclusive proof.. .that's why I'm still playing.


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ok thx. With the cpu llc on the next step down (ultra high-75%) the voltage will only increase 0.01v under load, as the extreme is spikey but increases almost 0.05v.
that in mind do you think should increase my base vcore to about 1.45 and start from there,
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Also the ram seems to work ok at that voltage, ran memtest for and hour or so, with no errors. with it at 1720 9-9-9-24-41
can run it at the same voltage at 1680 8-9-8-24-41, but cant see an increase in performance, even in benching
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ok thx. With the cpu llc on the next step down (ultra high-75%) the voltage will only increase 0.01v under load, as the extreme is spikey but increases almost 0.05v.
that in mind do you think should increase my base vcore to about 1.45 and start from there,

Its not quite a linear as that.

i would suggest 1.42v as a base

i would expect a touch of vboost but not much

high LLC will allow some vdroop which isn't exactly a bad thing as some chips will clock better with some vdroop (high llc and 140% is on my list to test but ya.. getting there)

only thing i really have to say about the ram is that i prefer to be able to isolate ram oc vs CPU oc

if instability happens eliminate one potential until you know that other one is not the issue.

just precautionary. it could be not ramm related at all but i don't know.
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I think a lot of people did fine with high llc and found lower temps too.
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Meh, I pulled trigger. I just gotta have my hands on new AMD techs.

Don't worry though... I'm not letting go of my 8350 sweetcake. Even if she is a fussy one when at 5 ghz.

So problem number one...

To de-lid, or not to de-lid? Kaveri follows in Richland/Trinity's footsteps with using TIM again.
really ? that sucks, i understand it is cheaper alternative... but come on. at least on the top chips in that market, solder the darn thing !
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That's kinda sad then, have ssend on this site people getting close to 5ghz on the same water loop, I can get 4.7ghz out of it with 1.5v at load , but wow the cpu socket and cpu hit 65c in about 5min of playing bf4, looking for a bit more but stable, as it stands now in bf4 using all cores hitting 62c on the chip and 65c on the socket
and this is why i call proof.gif on anyone who walks in and says they have a stable 5ghz on h100 anything can or has it happened, yes does it happen often..... no ( or this threads personal fav.... the 212 )
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Probably won't be benching the phenom for a while,got a 5.5ghz 1.49v 3770k to play with lol
taking bets on how long before the chip goes boom ! Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Ok thx for the advice, just removed the water block and cleaned it and the chip real well, reapplied artic mx4, but still no change so far, However my idle temp went down about 5c sitting at 25c idle guess Im stuck at 4.5ghz.
Even tried without the fsb increase put it back to 200 and raised the multiplier, was even more unstable at the same voltage, guess the piledrivers like a mix of fsb and multiplier OC.

And yes Flailschlamp, they are different then the fans that came with the h100, they flow 65cfm @ 1.75mm h2O instead of the factory fans at 80cfm. at 2mm h2o---So close to the same performance with only 20db instead 50db(was way too loud-- my wife was screaming at me to get my attention

heres a few pics of my bios- any suggestions on tweeking would be appreciated




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Ok thx for the advice, just removed the water block and cleaned it and the chip real well, reapplied artic mx4, but still no change so far, However my idle temp went down about 5c sitting at 25c idle guess Im stuck at 4.5ghz.
Even tried without the fsb increase put it back to 200 and raised the multiplier, was even more unstable at the same voltage, guess the piledrivers like a mix of fsb and multiplier OC. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
And yes Flailschlamp, they are different then the fans that came with the h100, they flow 65cfm @ 1.75mm h2O instead of the factory fans at 80cfm. at 2mm h2o---So close to the same performance with only 20db instead 50db(was way too loud-- my wife was screaming at me to get my attention

heres a few pics of my bios- any suggestions on tweeking would be appreciated





first thought.

change DOCP to Manual

PCIE freq 100

can you set your NB and HT @ 2400mhz ish?

try bumping up cpu vdda up too 2.6v (or a little lower)

nb volts should prolly require 1.15-1.20v range

HT voltage might need to be bumped up a little.

might need a touch more ramm voltage.

CPU LLC Very High + 130% is more then enough. extreme +140 is WAY OVERKILL and back way too spikey

and i would up you vcore to go beyond 4.5

thats just my.02$

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Also the ram seems to work ok at that voltage, ran memtest for and hour or so, with no errors. with it at 1720 9-9-9-24-41
can run it at the same voltage at 1680 8-9-8-24-41, but cant see an increase in performance, even in benching

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ok thx. With the cpu llc on the next step down (ultra high-75%) the voltage will only increase 0.01v under load, as the extreme is spikey but increases almost 0.05v.
that in mind do you think should increase my base vcore to about 1.45 and start from there,

Its not quite a linear as that.

i would suggest 1.42v as a base

i would expect a touch of vboost but not much

high LLC will allow some vdroop which isn't exactly a bad thing as some chips will clock better with some vdroop (high llc and 140% is on my list to test but ya.. getting there)

only thing i really have to say about the ram is that i prefer to be able to isolate ram oc vs CPU oc

if instability happens eliminate one potential until you know that other one is not the issue.

just precautionary. it could be not ramm related at all but i don't know.

agreed 100% if you need more help i can help later atm gotta eat dinner just got home from work sorry

fsb oc MUST have pcie turned down.

but no FSB vs multi oc wither everything else left the same = same thing, been proven time and time again

also about the ram the saberkitty is the only mobo i have owned that i didnt have to overvolt the ram ( from manufacture stock settings ) to not have vdroop ( at least any that showed any unstableness ) ( i made up a word ! )
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I was just recently pondering if anyone even OC'd by the bus clock anymore lol... I've got my bus clock at 250 right now and multi at 18 to get 4.5... just experimenting at coming from a different angle at my OC's... seems more stable this way and on some benches has shown slight improvement... cinebench R 11.5 I got 7.74 vs 7.70 before with just multi... not much I know... not really conclusive proof.. .that's why I'm still playing.

Does this count? http://valid.canardpc.com/mdiiuf

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I can't leave bus alone. I'd overclock using the multiplier and then the bus just stares at me... calling... tempting... that sweet sweet voice I just can't avoid.
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I can't leave bus alone. I'd overclock using the multiplier and then the bus just stares at me... calling... tempting... that sweet sweet voice I just can't avoid.
A voice that screams at phenom II overclockers
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