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APU has a combined compute power approaching 900 GFLOPS.

F3ERS thinks it'll top out tied with a rather pathetic in comparison PD chip that can barely cap 100 GFLOPS.

"lolno". lachen.gif

Dude, you have no idea about HSA if you think even this first form of it is anywhere close to limited to current chip levels. The ride hasn't even begun yet and we've already got benches showing it doubling it's performance in synthetics that could not have worked on it for very long, if at all.
You are correct.

As stated when HSA takes off ............. Then you have to worry about programmers utilizing it... I am not saying it is a bad choice I would love to build a second rig for it. However currently and for the next year unless you use the programs that are written for it.. Kaveri is at the very best a side grade. There will be another chip to come out once HSA and programmers take advantage of HSA then will be the time.

So summary Kaveri = second rig (it will be great for the money eventually)
AMD FX for now is a good build..

Also you stated synthetics i tend to use my computer more than just synthetics. thumb.gif
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I was just recently pondering if anyone even OC'd by the bus clock anymore lol... I've got my bus clock at 250 right now and multi at 18 to get 4.5... just experimenting at coming from a different angle at my OC's... seems more stable this way and on some benches has shown slight improvement... cinebench R 11.5 I got 7.74 vs 7.70 before with just multi... not much I know... not really conclusive proof.. .that's why I'm still playing.

Does this count? http://valid.canardpc.com/mdiiuf

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I can't leave bus alone. I'd overclock using the multiplier and then the bus just stares at me... calling... tempting... that sweet sweet voice I just can't avoid.
A voice that screams at phenom II overclockers

You're very right.

My first was a sempron.

Then it was an Athlon II 435 that unlocked to a Phenom II.

Then I had a locked 1055T.

So after so many years of OC'ing using just the bus, you just can't resist.
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I can't leave bus alone. I'd overclock using the multiplier and then the bus just stares at me... calling... tempting... that sweet sweet voice I just can't avoid.
A voice that screams at phenom II overclockers

You're very right.

My first was a sempron.

Then it was an Athlon II 435 that unlocked to a Phenom II.

Then I had a locked 1055T.

So after so many years of OC'ing using just the bus, you just can't resist.

Coming From Intel, You Have No Idea How Right You Are! biggrin.gif
 
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Coming From Intel, You Have No Idea How Right You Are! biggrin.gif
how so i thought intel locked the PCIE to the BLK which makes blk ocing almost obsolete ( or are you talking old school like C2Q
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Alright I did the rig builder thing I just don't know how to put it as a signature tongue.gif.

I ran a prime95 also to check and the max clocks were at 3.7ghz or so so I guess it's normal, yea I was suspecting it was that turboboost, but the 4ghz seemed a bit high for turbo, and oddly enough when I ran Prime95 it didn't reach 4ghz on any core.. weird.
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Was messing with my computer today again and got a stable 4.5ghz @ 1.24V idle and 1.312 load stable with MEDIUM LLC!! lol. I think i will keep it like this for sure. I was at 4.7ghz @ 1.280V idle and 1.344V load but it seems to fail the IBT AVX test on the 8th pass. not sure why. But this is good enough =)

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My 7990 has about 8000 GFLOPS ya know. Problem is I don't have hQ going to it, nor hUMA, nor a nice programing suite.

What will really take off is Java 8's adoption of HSA commands, and Qualcomm and other mobile makers doing what AMD is doing. There is absolutely no reason phones and tablets can't do this too, and Qualcomm is a member of the HSA foundation. biggrin.gif
You got a link to JAVA 8 HSA info by chance?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2047422/hsa-targets-native-parallel-execution-in-java-virtual-machines-by-2015.html

Start with this.
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APU has a combined compute power approaching 900 GFLOPS.

F3ERS thinks it'll top out tied with a rather pathetic in comparison PD chip that can barely cap 100 GFLOPS.

"lolno". lachen.gif

Dude, you have no idea about HSA if you think even this first form of it is anywhere close to limited to current chip levels. The ride hasn't even begun yet and we've already got benches showing it doubling it's performance in synthetics that could not have worked on it for very long, if at all.
You are correct.

As stated when HSA takes off ............. Then you have to worry about programmers utilizing it... I am not saying it is a bad choice I would love to build a second rig for it. However currently and for the next year unless you use the programs that are written for it.. Kaveri is at the very best a side grade. There will be another chip to come out once HSA and programmers take advantage of HSA then will be the time.

So summary Kaveri = second rig (it will be great for the money eventually)
AMD FX for now is a good build..

Also you stated synthetics i tend to use my computer more than just synthetics. thumb.gif

No technology is ever for the now.

And you expect non-synthetics a week form launch? Keep dreaming.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/2047422/hsa-targets-native-parallel-execution-in-java-virtual-machines-by-2015.html

Start with this.
No technology is ever for the now.

And you expect non-synthetics a week form launch? Keep dreaming.

biggrin.gif thats my point tongue.gif

You mistake me for a fool, I am not downplaying anything. What I am saying is that at this time there is nothing that will utilize its purpose and wont for quite some time.. 8-9 months at least which is a long time in the industry.

my point is still valid which you emphasize without realizing it

now this with a grain of salt of course, new chip would be launched 3 months later when HSA starts to get a solid footing
http://wccftech.com/amd-carrizo-apu-feature-excavator-core-arrives-2015-gen-radeon-core-65w-tdp/
Edit: before it is said. This chip most likely will be a SR refresh

So as I said. for a trade from a 8350 to 7850k it is a side grade at best. (for now)
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Coming From Intel, You Have No Idea How Right You Are! biggrin.gif
how so i thought intel locked the PCIE to the BLK which makes blk ocing almost obsolete ( or are you talking old school like C2Q

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You are correct on the iCore's but i came from a Intel C2Q Q9550 E0 @ 4.3Ghz with a 505 FSB lol I kinda miss it actually. Those were the Good Times. sad-smiley-002.gif Hopefully this FX will bring more good memories. thumb.gif
 
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