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No new CPUs for 2014. FX will carry us through until 2015

Thats what i thought, Thanks smile.gif

seeing how far the 9590 has come down in price makes me what to get it and find out how different it is from my 8350 (not much i know) just voltages etc needed for it biggrin.gif
 
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I have had my FX-8320 since October 2012, has done me pretty well, although my chip sucks in the overclocking department with only 4.0GHz being stable. I also have a i5-750 @ 4GHz that I have put together over the last year, although does not have any nice graphics cards, but does have x8/x8 slots for crossfire, where as my AMD board only has x16/x4 for crossfire. I need to get rid of one of the systems, rather than spend more, but keep the graphics card for the winning system.

I know this is where most AMD fans would be in this thread, but with that putting that aside, what would be best, FX-8320 @ 4GHz with x16/x4 crossfire or i5-750 @ 4GHz with x8/x8 crossfire?

8320.

Most games are finally making use of the 8 threads in the FX chips so i dont see the i5 750 being able to keep up much longer. As for only being able to hit 4.0 on the 8320, what voltages are you using? Im at 4.5 but i have to push 1.45v to make that happen.
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Thats what i thought, Thanks smile.gif

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Worth a shot wink.gif. Tell us your experiences
 
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Worth a shot wink.gif. Tell us your experiences

Will do, going to pick up a water cooling kit as well, my H100i is having trouble keeping the 8350 cool with the summer heat so better in the long term.

9590 is sold out atm but i'll grab one next time they get some stock in smile.gif
 
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Will do, going to pick up a water cooling kit as well, my H100i is having trouble keeping the 8350 cool with the summer heat so better in the long term.

9590 is sold out atm but i'll grab one next time they get some stock in smile.gif
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I have had my FX-8320 since October 2012, has done me pretty well, although my chip sucks in the overclocking department with only 4.0GHz being stable. I also have a i5-750 @ 4GHz that I have put together over the last year, although does not have any nice graphics cards, but does have x8/x8 slots for crossfire, where as my AMD board only has x16/x4 for crossfire. I need to get rid of one of the systems, rather than spend more, but keep the graphics card for the winning system.

I know this is where most AMD fans would be in this thread, but with that putting that aside, what would be best, FX-8320 @ 4GHz with x16/x4 crossfire or i5-750 @ 4GHz with x8/x8 crossfire?

8320.

Most games are finally making use of the 8 threads in the FX chips so i dont see the i5 750 being able to keep up much longer. As for only being able to hit 4.0 on the 8320, what voltages are you using? Im at 4.5 but i have to push 1.45v to make that happen.

Yeah the multi thread thing has me thinking ahead. I know many people can actually see that the FX actual has 8 cores, even though even every 2 share a FPU, they are not HT cores. Where as the i5 is just a quad core and nothing more. Does have me concerned that if I flick off the FX-8320 that I might regret it later.

I have to push about 1.4v through it to get to 4GHz stable, and then its getting a little to hot. If I push more through it, I can go faster, but it is never stable, and it just overheats.

Basically this particular machine isn't getting anything new. If steamroller was going to be release for this board, and I was planning it was going to be, then it would of got it, or be getting it. I kind of pissed that this is my first AMD desktop platform I have ever purchased brand new in the 15 years I have been into computers, and the first CPU that I purchased for it, is the only CPU it will ever be pretty much the only fastest architecture for the board and socket. So much for those people I know that rave on how great AMD are with upgrading their processors and retaining the same socket.

Don't get me wrong, there is a lot to like about the motherboard features, build and that fact Asus is supporting still right now with the like of drivers and BIOS updates.

It is a real pain, if I try and run this thing at stock. I expect that it would sit on 3.5GHz and turbo to 4GHz under load. Saying that if I put load on it like prime95 or play a game, the clock jumps around like crazy from as little as 2700MHz to 4100MHz, and the bus speed is jumping from 180MHz to 240MHz and the same goes with the HT link. It should be trying to slow down during these times. Weird thing is once I take the load off the processor, the multipliers and speed at idle are where they should be.
The only way around this is to lock in the CPU to a 4GHz overclock without having any power saving on, even if I am idling away.I am getting frustrated by the lack of overclocking performance, and when I want to run stock it really under performs.

btw. I just tried 4.4GHz again (since I haven't bothered to in such a long time) and within 5 seconds the system freezes up. I have turned off all the power saving settings as well. x22 multiplier with 1.45v (1.452v actual), and it only got to 56c before it froze. Yeah pretty dam sure 4GHz is all it got. I remember getting to run at 4.2GHz but was never truly stable.
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I'm going for 1 x 280mm to start with for the CPU then a 280mm Monsta later for the 290's smile.gif
 
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I'm going for 1 x 280mm to start with for the CPU then a 280mm Monsta later for the 290's smile.gif
Nice. I have 2x 35mm and one 65mm
 
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Yeah the multi thread thing has me thinking ahead. I know many people can actually see that the FX actual has 8 cores, even though even every 2 share a FPU, they are not HT cores. Where as the i5 is just a quad core and nothing more. Does have me concerned that if I flick off the FX-8320 that I might regret it later.

I have to push about 1.4v through it to get to 4GHz stable, and then its getting a little to hot. If I push more through it, I can go faster, but it is never stable, and it just overheats.

Basically this particular machine isn't getting anything new. If steamroller was going to be release for this board, and I was planning it was going to be, then it would of got it, or be getting it. I kind of pissed that this is my first AMD desktop platform I have ever purchased brand new in the 15 years I have been into computers, and the first CPU that I purchased for it, is the only CPU it will ever be pretty much the only fastest architecture for the board and socket. So much for those people I know that rave on how great AMD are with upgrading their processors and retaining the same socket.

Don't get me wrong, there is a lot to like about the motherboard features, build and that fact Asus is supporting still right now with the like of drivers and BIOS updates.

It is a real pain, if I try and run this thing at stock. I expect that it would sit on 3.5GHz and turbo to 4GHz under load. Saying that if I put load on it like prime95 or play a game, the clock jumps around like crazy from as little as 2700MHz to 4100MHz, and the bus speed is jumping from 180MHz to 240MHz and the same goes with the HT link. It should be trying to slow down during these times. Weird thing is once I take the load off the processor, the multipliers and speed at idle are where they should be.
The only way around this is to lock in the CPU to a 4GHz overclock without having any power saving on, even if I am idling away.I am getting frustrated by the lack of overclocking performance, and when I want to run stock it really under performs.

btw. I just tried 4.4GHz again (since I haven't bothered to in such a long time) and within 5 seconds the system freezes up. I have turned off all the power saving settings as well. x22 multiplier with 1.45v (1.452v actual), and it only got to 56c before it froze. Yeah pretty dam sure 4GHz is all it got. I remember getting to run at 4.2GHz but was never truly stable.

I feel for you... seems you definitely lost the silicon lottery... although, if you could post some bios screenshots of what your settings are... there are some here that might just notice something that could help... I was banging my head on the wall trying for 5 ghz but couldn't get it stable enough to run... then someone here, who I am sure is reading this, pointed out memory settings to me I hadn't thought of.. and poof I got 5ghz stable on intel burn test AVX very high test on at least a few passes... haven't had the guts to run the full 10 passes as it reaches very close to thermal limits within a short time.
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Nothing special really in the BIOS, pretty much leave on the stock settings, and shot for a stable overclock. I am pretty sure after I changed out my G-Skill Ares 1866 CL9-10-9-28 RAM to just some Value RAM, then I was able to use the same settings/timings/speed and was ok at 4GHz. I think once I put the value RAM in the system it seem the start going stable at 4GHz, with a one of the latest BIOS updates.
Before then I was running something like 3.8GHz to be stable at. Has been a bland and difficult overclocking adventure

I have tinkered around with RAM settings, making sure its not overclocked before hand, load lines, and whatever else I could find, even using other peoples settings they are posting, but seem nothing worked.
Recently I changed out the case for a Lian Li PC-7h and installed additional dual top case mounted fans, and the 4GHz overclock I do have, does not go over 60c when prime loaded which is ok.

Basically I just run 4GHz flat with 1.28v, which is ok a this stage. I use to need more voltage, when it was running hotter in the older case I had. As you know stability is affected at higher temps, and if your cooling cant handle it, then you need more volts (to cope with the thermal ceiling of a particular speed), that leads to more heat and then you are stuck with a run away train effect.

Anyway I have been reading up over the internet, and seem the FX8350 is much compared with a i5-3570K, with the Intel around 10% in the lead a lot of the time, but not always. I can see that an i5-760 clocked at 4GHz would be much like a i5-3570K at stock speed, but then it still has to compete with its internal improvements which the first gen does not have.

Cant really take to many photo, and there is not much to take a photo off, so I will just rattle off what I have set in the BIOS for the AMD processor

Manual Overclock
CPU ratio = 20
Turbo = Disabled
PCIE = 100
Mem Freq = 1866
CPU/NB = auto
HT Link = auto
Manual voltage = 1.28v
DRAM = 1.6v
CPU load line = Ultra High
Everything else in the menu it just auto/stock

CPU configuration = Everything disabled (otherwise I have this crazy clock jumping around, even at stock. Which sucks, sometime I would like to have power savings on, if I need to leave the system running, but want it to be snappy too)

Seems when ever I go any higher than 4GHz the system will fail, as in freeze up, and progressively lock. I know this thing can go high, as when I first got it, I made a couple of suicide boot ups in to windows at or near around 5GHz. So something gives, and does not like to go fast and stable. Power supply is solid, and have recent added a second graphics card, and copes really well with that, and hasn't affected anything I did already have before.

btw. Just a thought that I haven't been able to shake. I was thinking about in the 2000's when AMD use to give their processors weird names like XP 2600+ but the clock speed was much slower that the name suggested, but was by name on par with Intel offering with performance, this was so Joe six pack would think it is the same clock speed as an Intel and buy it. Point is, AMD usual try and keep in sync with what Intel are doing, therefore the reason I cannot see any Steamroller processor this year is (could be likely) as Intel as just doing a clock refresh of their current line, no change, therefore no need for AMD to change anything either smile.gif
Edited by erase - 2/8/14 at 5:35am
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