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the pain in the ass thing is that they essentially force the update on you, constant reoccurring popups for the windows store unless you go in and mess with the permissions.
I just feel like win8 has too much of a MS mind to it.. its constantly trying to update EVERYTHING(I.E. bing and a multitude of crap i keep removing with no option to not get it that actually works.

tell it to ignore an update and two updates later its managed to sneak its way into the download and installer.

Man, Win8/win8.1 has caused me soo many issues @ work, it just feels like they went full retard with this OS, you never go full retard.

Hoping for good things with Win9 but more then willing to stay with Win7 until 2020 when they stop getting updates

Luls @ Win8,

Yes its been a headache that's for sure. 3 systems here at the house that I (we, wife and I both work in the field) upgraded to win 8. If it weren't for the need to be educated of Win8 from a "customer prospective", I would have stuck to win 7. As it stands, I did purchase start 8 to keep my sanity. tongue.gif

Overall though, my feeling on win 8 isn't that it's bad... But metro. Win 8 with Start8 has been good, not great but good.
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My LLC was at auto the whole time, should I set it to High? and what about the Northbridge LLC? ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 board, btw.
    
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Luls @ Win8,

Yes its been a headache that's for sure. 3 systems here at the house that I (we, wife and I both work in the field) upgraded to win 8. If it weren't for the need to be educated of Win8 from a "customer prospective", I would have stuck to win 7. As it stands, I did purchase start 8 to keep my sanity. tongue.gif

Overall though, my feeling on win 8 isn't that it's bad... But metro. Win 8 with Start8 has been good, not great but good.

My first impression of the first beta of 8: " Where the heck is the real control panel??!!?? mad.gif" "How do you shut it down??!!mad.gif... *pulls plug*" I was sooo peeved... but once I got used to it, I got to liking it... just wasn't as intuitive as win 7 was to me... the metro, I finally adopted on this machine.. once I figure out how to make it my own... its not as easy to do as organizing your desktop or task bar, but with the latest couple updates its gotten easier... but I have managed to make it better for me than the desktop ever was finally lol.. took long enough.
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My LLC was at auto the whole time, should I set it to High? and what about the Northbridge LLC? ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 board, btw.
usually I set LLC to whatever setting it takes so that voltage at full load is nearly the same as voltage at an idle... usually its high or very high... but each board is different. I have all my llc's set to high except the cpu vcore, its set to very high.
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I'm at stock right now. I can get 4.2 with 1.41v, and C6 disabled. Problem is, socket temps go above 65c on the IBT, which is what I'm not looking for.

Socket temps can be relative... What is you package temp at the aforementioned stress test?

You can also fab a small fan to the socket area / VRM for some good spot cooling which is always a good practice. This will lower your socket temp to get a more inline with true core temp.
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Socket temps can be relative... What is you package temp at the aforementioned stress test?

You can also fab a small fan to the socket area / VRM for some good spot cooling which is always a good practice. This will lower your socket temp to get a more inline with true core temp.

I used to say you could never have too many fans...... till I built the pc I'm using now.... ugh... 11 fans total... at least I had the sense to get 18db and quieter fans only.... or it'd sound like a Boeing 747 taking off.

edit... 14 fans total... I was only counting the 120 mm fans...
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Socket temps can be relative... What is you package temp at the aforementioned stress test?

You can also fab a small fan to the socket area / VRM for some good spot cooling which is always a good practice. This will lower your socket temp to get a more inline with true core temp.

Oops. It's the package temp that goes above 65c. Socket temps are reported relatively cool.
    
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I had that problem once... I ran the thing in windows 8 fine.. then upgraded ( lol ) to 8.1 and started getting that error.. ran it in win7 compatibility and admin and poof it worked again.

That was it, thank you so much! If I still had my old windows 7 disk and key I would glady go back in a heartbeat.
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being a system builder, I have to keep up with the latest downgrades... I mean updates lol ... which means any beta MS puts out ends up in my inbox... sometimes I'm more impressed with the beta's than the full issue... win 8 was no exception.. they have made it worse in my mind with every update... at least as functionality goes... the aesthetics of it have gotten a bit better here and there... but geeeze the updates have ruined software that did work... even on the beta it worked...now nothing... most PC's I build I still put win 7 on... and the customers are really glad I do... no one wants win 8 lol... well.. one customer did...

I'm essentially tech ops at my work(as i don't have any programming or enterprise level networking experience or background yet.)
So i'm tasked with the hardware and UI of the workstations (i deal with about 60-70 computers, bridging a few generations of windows)

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Luls @ Win8,

Yes its been a headache that's for sure. 3 systems here at the house that I (we, wife and I both work in the field) upgraded to win 8. If it weren't for the need to be educated of Win8 from a "customer prospective", I would have stuck to win 7. As it stands, I did purchase start 8 to keep my sanity. tongue.gif

Overall though, my feeling on win 8 isn't that it's bad... But metro. Win 8 with Start8 has been good, not great but good.

I prefered Start is back until the trial ran out. then it was pop up city. Pokki is free and quite customizable so i've been using that and spreading that on to the Win8 computers and it helps the people use the UI but still its a pain with something that should have been there since day 1.

I have no use for metro. I've got a tablet for that functionality.
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My LLC was at auto the whole time, should I set it to High? and what about the Northbridge LLC? ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 board, btw.

Auto can do funky things with LLC

go into that section of bios and see what auto is setting it too if it is set to below what High is in manual bump it up to that.
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I've been dealing with MS crap since the mid 90's... from a repair/installer point of view, I still like dos better... no permission issues back then... but I admit that windows did make the UI a little more pleasant... however Win 8 dorked that all up... metro apps lack certain basic functions that we expect.. I completely understand your frustration with it lol.. .... I really do miss dos lol.. I had sooo many custom versions of dos worked up it wasn't funny... it was so easy back then to redo the OS how you wanted it... but then, it did also not have much to offer either... I really need to explore Linux better.... honestly ... I'm scared to try it because of drivers...
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