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Why no mantle for VLIW5 cards sad-smiley-002.gif

Because VLIW5 is from series is from 2006, and people are lucky they're still getting driver updates for it. The HD 4000 series and earlier aren't.
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Why no mantle for VLIW5 cards sad-smiley-002.gif

Ok....noobish question, whats a VLIW5 Card?

VLIW5 is a GPU arch used by AMD from the HD 2000 series all the way the the HD 6800 series. The HD 6900 series and Trinity/Richland used VLIW4, which was a more efficient version of the design. After that, we moved on to the GCN arch we all know and love today.

VLIW5:
HD 2000 series
HD 3000 series
HD 4000 series
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Llano APU

VLIW4:
HD 6950, 6970, 6990
Trinity APU
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GCN 1.0:
HD 7000 series
HD 8000 series (OEM)
R7 200 series upto the R7 260
R9 200 series upto the 280X

GPU 1.1:
R7 260X
R9 290
R9 290X
Kaveri APU

Mantle only supports GCN 1.0 and 1.1. All cards listed under GCN 1.1 also support TrueAudio, but they require dedicated hardware to do so.

The XBone and PS4 also use a GCN-derived design, though wether they are based on the newer GCN 1.1 is unknown. I believe they are. AMD has also shown both in the past and in recent statements that GCN is here to stay with us for a long time, getting updates along the way. They're in it for the long haul, and are certainly putting their money where their mouth is by even daring to support something like Mantle in the first place.
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Why no mantle for VLIW5 cards sad-smiley-002.gif

Ok....noobish question, whats a VLIW5 Card?
Architectures. The HD2XXX series were the first ATI/AMD cards that used unified shaders vs the old separate vertex and shader pipeline designs. AMD cards since the HD2XXX (I may be wrong but I am pretty sure its 2XXX) used the VLIW5 (Very Long Instruction Word) instruction set. So thats HD2XXX, 3XXX, 4XXX, 5XXX and 6XXX. GCN or Graphics Core Next is the first radical departure AMD made from the VLIW5 instruction set. (Please do not hesitate to correct me if I am wrong. I do not claim to be a self professed GPU programmer tongue.gif)

And I GUESS by answering you're question I answered my own. I guess Mantle is just not compatible with VLIW5?sadsmiley.gif

No, sorry, it isn't. Mantle is a low level API that needs to be written for each architecture. AMD opted to not write anything for a 4+ year old arch at it's newest point.

However, you DO get all the new frame pacing stuff, so there's that. smile.gif
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congrats man !~
go 290x and dont look back !

they are impossible to find in stock here. i'll need a loop for a 290/X.


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Yes, you are out of your mind.

My 290's cost less than ONE Titan Black.

Even without crossfire im running everything seamlessly thumb.gif

i would hope it would run smoothly with 2x 1080p monitors. thats not what i'm after.

4K in surround + 1440p aux is not a small display surface (14.7 million pixels +)
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I don't know whats wrong.. Read a bit about how to apply thermal paste so that i could see if I did something wrong, read about the IHS which appearantly isnt flat.. Used different thermal paste because the other is almost solid. Used some Cooler Master stuff, which isnt the best if I should believe Toms' Hardware charts, but still it should be better now. Instead of spreading it over the CPU i did a tiny drop in the middle and let the heatsinks pressure do the rest.

Temps 3 hrs ago while stresstesting, in quite a cold room (dont know exact temp, but i needed a jacket xD) were max 48 degrees celcius. Now its a bit warmer but the CPU temp went up to 51..




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Got myself the corsair 500r case yesterday.. got rid of my old open side ghetto case and now Im running 7 fans !!..

with all these overclocks that I see throughout the posts, how loud are your PC's? especially those running >4.6
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I don't know whats wrong.. Read a bit about how to apply thermal paste so that i could see if I did something wrong, read about the IHS which appearantly isnt flat.. Used different thermal paste because the other is almost solid. Used some Cooler Master stuff, which isnt the best if I should believe Toms' Hardware charts, but still it should be better now. Instead of spreading it over the CPU i did a tiny drop in the middle and let the heatsinks pressure do the rest.

Temps 3 hrs ago while stresstesting, in quite a cold room (dont know exact temp, but i needed a jacket xD) were max 48 degrees celcius. Now its a bit warmer but the CPU temp went up to 51..


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I don't know what cooler you're using but at 1.25v your temps really shouldn't be that high already. When it comes to the TIM you need a fairly good "pea" sized blob to get a good spread. The IHS on these CPU's is fairly large. What's you case and airflow like?
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I don't know what cooler you're using but at 1.25v your temps really shouldn't be that high already. When it comes to the TIM you need a fairly good "pea" sized blob to get a good spread. The IHS on these CPU's is fairly large. What's you case and airflow like?
An EKL Alpenföhn K2..

TIM ?

I did a pea sized blod on the IHS.. Dont know whats wrong :/

Case is an CM HAF XM, front 200mm, HDD Cage 120mm, at the back 140mm& top 200mm.. CPU fans will regulate between 40-50Degrees Celcius, after 50 they will go 100%. Case fans will go at 100% 45 degrees
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I would suggest that for now have all your fans at 100%. That might explain the CPU temp since your fans don't cycle up until you hit 50°. That's one wicked looking cooler by the way. Does it use an X shaped bracket to hold it down. If so the tightening pattern can affect your TIM( thermal interface material or paste) as well.
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An EKL Alpenföhn K2..

TIM ?

I did a pea sized blod on the IHS.. Dont know whats wrong :/

Case is an CM HAF XM, front 200mm, HDD Cage 120mm, at the back 140mm& top 200mm.. CPU fans will regulate between 40-50Degrees Celcius, after 50 they will go 100%. Case fans will go at 100% 45 degrees


I really dont know whats wrong.. >.<</div>

I have the K2 on an FX8350, clocked at 4.6Ghz with 1.4v, and it never goes over 56/58 deg c when stress testing

I use Artic Silver 5. (grain of rice method)




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I would suggest that for now have all your fans at 100%. That might explain the CPU temp since your fans don't cycle up until you hit 50°. That's one wicked looking cooler by the way. Does it use an X shaped bracket to hold it down. If so the tightening pattern can affect your TIM( thermal interface material or paste) as well.


hm. What if i change the cooling to turn every fan to run at full speed when it exceeds 45 degrees, regulating from 40 to 45 like the case fans do ?


Yea I like it biggrin.gif I actually wanted the Noctua NH-C14 but with 88€ for the cheapest one was way too much, since the price was 67 2 months before, so I looked which cooler had the same cooling and came with fans out of the box (no promilatech genesis^^) and this was one for actually the same price as the c14 months before smile.gif


Here are some pictures, I dont know exactly what you mean.

http://www.overclockingstation.de/startseite/ekl-alpenfoehn-k2-526-seite4.html
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That is a great mounting system. My HE01 has a similar system.
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