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I figured out part of the reason my 9370 runs so much hotter than my 8350's, it's heatspreader is anything but flat.

The outside edges are high with the low area being just inside of that, the middle being the highest spot of all. It's bad enough that I'm not sure that lapping will completely even it out.

A razor blade can rock back and forth on the high spot in the middle only touching one edge or the other and never touch the low spot between the outside and middle. It's the same horizontally or vertically.

A question for the learned, how do you know when to stop lapping? It's going to take a lot to get this chip plumb and I don't want to go too far.
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I figured out part of the reason my 9370 runs so much hotter than my 8350's, it's heatspreader is anything but flat.

The outside edges are high with the low area being just inside of that, the middle being the highest spot of all. It's bad enough that I'm not sure that lapping will completely even it out.

A razor blade can rock back and forth on the high spot in the middle only touching one edge or the other and never touch the low spot between the outside and middle. It's the same horizontally or vertically.

A question for the learned, how do you know when to stop lapping? It's going to take a lot to get this chip plumb and I don't want to go too far.

I'd take it down to copper and see how level it is at that point.

in theory once you hit copper on all surfaces if you are doing it on a perfectly flat surface is all you need to do.

there should still be copper to lose at that point before you get to the DIE. i was able to get quite a bit of lapping done after i hit copper and i didn't hit the die or get anywhere close IMO

take a sharpie and dot yourself a 12 or a 16 dot matrix to see exactly how you are lapping down .

and i'd go mega's route with spirits or ISO as the lubricant, I wouldn't use water again.
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I figured out part of the reason my 9370 runs so much hotter than my 8350's, it's heatspreader is anything but flat.

The outside edges are high with the low area being just inside of that, the middle being the highest spot of all. It's bad enough that I'm not sure that lapping will completely even it out.

A razor blade can rock back and forth on the high spot in the middle only touching one edge or the other and never touch the low spot between the outside and middle. It's the same horizontally or vertically.

A question for the learned, how do you know when to stop lapping? It's going to take a lot to get this chip plumb and I don't want to go too far.

I'd take it down to copper and see how level it is at that point.

in theory once you hit copper on all surfaces if you are doing it on a perfectly flat surface is all you need to do.

there should still be copper to lose at that point before you get to the DIE. i was able to get quite a bit of lapping done after i hit copper and i didn't hit the die or get anywhere close IMO

take a sharpie and dot yourself a 12 or a 16 dot matrix to see exactly how you are lapping down .

and i'd go mega's route with spirits or ISO as the lubricant, I wouldn't use water again.
Thanks for the reply smile.gif
I have some 0 weight synthetic lube, any reason not to use that?
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Originally Posted by cssorkinman View Post

I figured out part of the reason my 9370 runs so much hotter than my 8350's, it's heatspreader is anything but flat.

The outside edges are high with the low area being just inside of that, the middle being the highest spot of all. It's bad enough that I'm not sure that lapping will completely even it out.

A razor blade can rock back and forth on the high spot in the middle only touching one edge or the other and never touch the low spot between the outside and middle. It's the same horizontally or vertically.

A question for the learned, how do you know when to stop lapping? It's going to take a lot to get this chip plumb and I don't want to go too far.


First thing you need is a lot of patience and do not over rush it because it can ruing the outcome.

Here is an interesting thread i found about lapping FX 8350 so its suitable for your 9370 too.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2300800
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Thanks for the reply smile.gif
I have some 0 weight synthetic lube, any reason not to use that?

without knowing the synthetic lube, I defaulted thinking motor oil LMAO

IMHO i would not use a synthetic based solely on potential residue. question about conductivity.

I've got no clue what 0 weight means

Also how would this synthetic react once there are sand partials, aluminum partials, and copper partials all in the same slurry with the synthetic lube.

I would use whatever you use to clean your chips of TIM, if you have say half a cup of it.
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It's actually sold as a honing oil, so I thought it might lend itself to this application.
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It's actually sold as a honing oil, so I thought it might lend itself to this application.

ah, i've used that stuff to sharpen kitchen knifes.

I would guess it depends on the composition.. i'm not sure they are tested or produced with electrical conductivity in mind.

if you had a DIST meter or a PPM meter that measure dissolved solids in liquids. I would test the oil for conductivity (i use oil lightly as it isn't always a oil )
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I figured out part of the reason my 9370 runs so much hotter than my 8350's, it's heatspreader is anything but flat.

The outside edges are high with the low area being just inside of that, the middle being the highest spot of all. It's bad enough that I'm not sure that lapping will completely even it out.

A razor blade can rock back and forth on the high spot in the middle only touching one edge or the other and never touch the low spot between the outside and middle. It's the same horizontally or vertically.

A question for the learned, how do you know when to stop lapping? It's going to take a lot to get this chip plumb and I don't want to go too far.

I'd take it down to copper and see how level it is at that point.

in theory once you hit copper on all surfaces if you are doing it on a perfectly flat surface is all you need to do.

there should still be copper to lose at that point before you get to the DIE. i was able to get quite a bit of lapping done after i hit copper and i didn't hit the die or get anywhere close IMO

take a sharpie and dot yourself a 12 or a 16 dot matrix to see exactly how you are lapping down .

and i'd go mega's route with spirits or ISO as the lubricant, I wouldn't use water again.
come again ? i never lapped !
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