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I don't see a lot of info on your cooling etc. but one thing I do Know about the M5A99 boards is that the 6 phase power section really has to work to get the 8 core CPUs running OCd. This in turn creates a lot of heat which only some active cooling for the VRM and socket can help. I have one of these boards which I used for my first OC with the 8350 and had the same problems.
This fan behind the mobo pointed right onto the socket dropped my temps quite a bit

Also some fans directly on the VRM heatsink will help as well

EDIT: I'd also use P95 Blend instead of small FFTs for testing. These CPUs need the IMC worked to test for stability

Thanks for the quick reply, i entered the info about my cooling in the original post:

"My case is a Zalman Z11 Plus on which i changed the back and top exhaust vents with Arctic F12, the cpu cooler is a Macho hr-02 which unfortunately covers the vrms so i can't put extra fans on them. Is the board really that bad when it comes to vrm cooling? I read here on the forum that someone talked to Asus support and got a message that if the temps are below 90 on the socket the board should handle it. The case has pretty tight side panels as well unfortunately.

Any advice is much appreciated. Thank you.
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So the sabertooth/crosshair motherboards have no such problems regarding socket temps?

what is your opinion on this:
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Re: High CPU socket temps with low CPU core temps ... I may have gotten a meaningful answer from ASUS tech support. After submitting a formal tech support case on the ASUS website I spoke on the phone today with a technician in their Global Technical Support department. This information comes from an unnamed "overclocking specialist" within that department ... the ASUS motherboard socket can tolerate a temperature of 88-90 degrees C without thermal or electrical damage to any motherboard components. The board is designed to operate at these temperatures and heat dissipation through the board layers is a design factor. While the motherboard does self-monitor CPU core and socket temperature, there is no "automatic" PC shutdown if the board senses socket temperatures approaching 90 degrees C. According to the "overclocking specialist" a socket temperature 20-25 degrees C higher than CPU core temperatures with a very effective CPU cooling solution is not unrealistic. Bottom line: if CPU core temps are kept in a safe thermal range, then socket temps approaching, but not exceeding 90 degrees C should still be OK. So, what are your thoughts?

Thank you once again.


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Yeah you are using a pretty massive CPU cooler. So VRM cooling could be a bit difficult. Send us a pic of your set up. I might be able to help. I have 990FX PRO r2.0 so it's fundamentally the same board. Have you tired running a back side fan to blow against the back of your MOBO around the socket area? In stead of mounting a fan ON the VRM's you can mount like I did one side against the I/O and the other side against the NB blowing up ALONG the VRM's.

I'll take a picture when i get home in about 3 hours. Thank you for the response, unfortunately the cpu cooler covers most of that area, don't think i can squeeze a cooler to the vrms. I was under the impression i could get a stable 4.5 out of the m5a99x, maybe i should send it back?
I wouldn't say send it back. Just get some airflow to the back of your socket. You could do 120mm like I did or like Johan45 and use a smaller fan (like the 70mm stock fan) and double sided ed tape that to the back of your socket. Even a bit of airflow to that area helps a lot. Although I think you should rather use a 120mm on the back side cause that will help cool the back side of your VRM's as well with will be doubly effective for you since getting a fan on the VRM sink isn't an option for you.

Sent from my Xperia Z1 excuse any typos.
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1 optimized for silence,

2 did you uses "fans" or good quality rad fans ?

I used 4 of these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?gclid=CM-Umdnywb0CFYFhMgod3XIA2A&Item=N82E16835146009&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-Case+Fans-_-N82E16835146009&ef_id=UwJRtAAAAPI-AC2j:20140402132155:s

Good for quiet and performance

i hate when manufactures dont include p-q charts ... never used them so i dont have an idea, i may look into them and try a few
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Full tilt they're a bit loud but 96CFM and 4.8mmH2O is nothing to sneeze at. I could bench my 8350 at 5.3 in Cinebench using that AIO. Then I upgraded my cooling.
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I'll see if i can lower the temps a bit tonight by somehow squeezing a 120 between the motherboard and side panel. Would there be any issues if the plastic from the vent touches the mobo? and another question, is fsb overclocking preferred to mutiplier? I read around here that fsb oc-ing results in a higher performance. Thank you and have a nice day.
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I'll see if i can lower the temps a bit tonight by somehow squeezing a 120 between the motherboard and side panel. Would there be any issues if the plastic from the vent touches the mobo? and another question, is fsb overclocking preferred to mutiplier? I read around here that fsb oc-ing results in a higher performance. Thank you and have a nice day.

I have always used a combo of multi and FSB, it does have certain advantages say for achieving certain bus or ram speeds. I haven't done any testing to see if there is a performance difference.
As to the plastic , it really shouldn't hurt anything.
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EDIT: I'd also use P95 Blend instead of small FFTs for testing. These CPUs need the IMC worked to test for stability

You use prime95? Im using Intel Burn test.. I read somehere that prime95 heat up the temps, and that ibt is best for amd fx
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Full tilt they're a bit loud but 96CFM and 4.8mmH2O is nothing to sneeze at. I could bench my 8350 at 5.3 in Cinebench using that AIO. Then I upgraded my cooling.

This was on an H-100 in some chilly ambients http://hwbot.org/submission/2345397_cssorkinmanocn_cinebench_r11.5_fx_8350_9.17_points

EDIT : I sometimes work in an environment that has 10 inches of static pressure. ( 8, 250 hp electric motors driving 4 huge fans) . It hurts my noggin if I stay in there too long at that pressure tongue.gif 1.5 million CFM lol!
Edited by cssorkinman - 4/2/14 at 8:14am
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This is the only thing I have that I can boast of tongue.gif Ran it with a Hyper TX3 during Winter when ambient temp was as low as 10c.
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You use prime95? Im using Intel Burn test.. I read somehere that prime95 heat up the temps, and that ibt is best for amd fx
Actually small FFT's will cause more CPU heat but doesn't test the ram/IMC. I still use P95 since it suits my purposes. For everyday tasks and gaming you don't need the same level of stability as you need to runF@H for days on end .
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This was on an H-100 in some chilly ambients http://hwbot.org/submission/2345397_cssorkinmanocn_cinebench_r11.5_fx_8350_9.17_points

EDIT : I sometimes work in an environment that has 10 inches of static pressure. ( 8, 250 hp electric motors driving 4 huge fans) . It hurts my noggin if I stay in there too long at that pressure tongue.gif 1.5 million CFM lol!

That's a decent run there cssorkinman, good job for an AIO
This is what I managed when I got some better cooling http://hwbot.org/submission/2455975_johan45_cinebench_r11.5_fx_8350_9.68_points

I couldn't imagine what that would feel like but it must be hell if you had a headcold.
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You use prime95? Im using Intel Burn test.. I read somehere that prime95 heat up the temps, and that ibt is best for amd fx
Actually small FFT's will cause more CPU heat but doesn't test the ram/IMC. I still use P95 since it suits my purposes. For everyday tasks and gaming you don't need the same level of stability as you need to runF@H for days on end .
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This was on an H-100 in some chilly ambients http://hwbot.org/submission/2345397_cssorkinmanocn_cinebench_r11.5_fx_8350_9.17_points

EDIT : I sometimes work in an environment that has 10 inches of static pressure. ( 8, 250 hp electric motors driving 4 huge fans) . It hurts my noggin if I stay in there too long at that pressure tongue.gif 1.5 million CFM lol!

That's a decent run there cssorkinman, good job for an AIO
This is what I managed when I got some better cooling http://hwbot.org/submission/2455975_johan45_cinebench_r11.5_fx_8350_9.68_points

I couldn't imagine what that would feel like but it must be hell if you had a headcold.

Oh yes , the sinus's catch it the worst, also if you have a new filling, you'll know it!
It's kind of fun at times too, if you lie flat over the venting screens you can actually float biggrin.gif.
On the downside, it can be deadly. You have to enter through a pair of airlock doors, I know of an incident where the inner airlock door failed as the operator was passing through the outter one. Poor fellow got cut in half, lengthwise by the door swinging shut on him frown.gif
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