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I dont mind buy new fans for all my case.

I got the swiftech 8 pwm fan splitter, so i can put all the fans on the splitter, and have a super quiet system at idle.

So im thinkin on buy new PWM fans to my case. You recomend Static Pressure optimized for intake? ( 2x140mm on front, 1 x 140mm on bottom), and then 1x140mm and 2x140mm Air Flow Optimized for rear and top? I wanted all to be pwm, so i could connect all them to the splitter.
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I dont mind buy new fans for all my case.

I got the swiftech 8 pwm fan splitter, so i can put all the fans on the splitter, and have a super quiet system at idle.

So im thinkin on buy new PWM fans to my case. You recomend Static Pressure optimized for intake? ( 2x140mm on front, 1 x 140mm on bottom), and then 1x140mm and 2x140mm Air Flow Optimized for rear and top? I wanted all to be pwm, so i could connect all them to the splitter.

I honestly only really buy Static pressure optimized. i've been experimenting with 140mm I'm satisfied with the fractal 140mm but i wouldn't consider them a performance fan by any means. all of the ones i own are on my R4 with my kaveri thing is fairly silent aside from the bloody noisy corsair 140mm fan on the h90

I use Fractal cases, and their intakes are anything but blow threw breezy.. I've got dust filters and other junk in the way to i just use SP to maximize the air in the tight not very air flow friendly environment.

so i just default with the option that i know has the umpph to do the job.

If a fan generally doesn't have an SP rating at all, i generally don't bother. it isn't the deciding factor but if i buy a fan i want to be able to use it anywhere in any of the systems i own. the information is useful.

PWM, not the best person to ask about these. I can't be arsed, i have pwm fans but i have them set to static speeds. I don't care.

But i am a firm believer of having control over individual fans. be with with software or in bios. I just mess with the bios fan settings. It has always been good enough for me, so i never changed the way i do it.

SO if you have the spots on the motherboard for fan put em there first.

the reason positive pressure is a good idea is that you are not pulling in dust from unfiltered intended exhausts acting as intakes because the air is being sucked out of the case faster then it is being pushed in.. remember the back panel of all cases are essentially swiss cheese.. fairly holy

but then again i love air flow i've got an oscillating fan going at all times. I hate still air. so a little bit of case fan noise is more then acceptable for me.
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I honestly only really buy Static pressure optimized. i've been experimenting with 140mm I'm satisfied with the fractal 140mm but i wouldn't consider them a performance fan by any means. all of the ones i own are on my R4 with my kaveri thing is fairly silent aside from the bloody noisy corsair 140mm fan on the h90

I use Fractal cases, and their intakes are anything but blow threw breezy.. I've got dust filters and other junk in the way to i just use SP to maximize the air in the tight not very air flow friendly environment.

so i just default with the option that i know has the umpph to do the job.

If a fan generally doesn't have an SP rating at all, i generally don't bother. it isn't the deciding factor but if i buy a fan i want to be able to use it anywhere in any of the systems i own. the information is useful.

PWM, not the best person to ask about these. I can't be arsed, i have pwm fans but i have them set to static speeds. I don't care.

But i am a firm believer of having control over individual fans. be with with software or in bios. I just mess with the bios fan settings. It has always been good enough for me, so i never changed the way i do it.

SO if you have the spots on the motherboard for fan put em there first.

the reason positive pressure is a good idea is that you are not pulling in dust from unfiltered intended exhausts acting as intakes because the air is being sucked out of the case faster then it is being pushed in.. remember the back panel of all cases are essentially swiss cheese.. fairly holy

but then again i love air flow i've got an oscillating fan going at all times. I hate still air. so a little bit of case fan noise is more then acceptable for me.

I'm starting to understand fan static pressure a bit from you mate. Good job.

Will definitely be re-configuring mine with these helpful tips.

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On a side note,
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I just dont want to have a fan on the vrm, or on the back of the board, and be able to do 4.4/4.5Ghz on it. Is this possible? Or even if i go to a CROSSHAIR V FORMULA-Z or SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 i will need a fan on the vrms and on the back of the board?

If one of this boards have a good cooling, that allow me to do 4.4/4.5 without a fan on the back of it, im going for it.

Not trying to sound too assuming or anything but, if all you want is a clean 4.5GHz on a Vishera, I'd say it's pretty doable on any 990FX board.

My crappy UD3 rev 3, with it's tin slim VRM heatsink, can do 4.5 easily. Temps were also not too bad at that clock.

Also, my socket vs. core temps were just separated by not more than 1 degree from each other ON AIR. that's why I'm really surprised by all these socket temps crave nowadays since it's been told before it's all about the core. (But like I said, they're just separated by a mere 1 degree on mine so I never worry that bit)

Unless it's a bad board, bad cooler, bad mount, too much voltage (voltage, being the only culprit on stability, is also not always true) or combination of all, 4.5GHz is a pretty easy stint to do on most 990FX. Saberkitty, CHV, CHV-FZ, UD5, UD7, etc., were just a necessity for very high overclocks.

I'd just maybe drop the idea that overclocking these chips could be done in two ways,
1. Brute Force - Use voltage to stabilize
2. Finding the sweet spot - experiment on things that will give you the most satisfactory results. GHz-wise and Temp-wise.

One overclocker made a guide that preaches "finding stability with least voltage involved". That would be a great help to minimise heat, I should say. thumb.gif
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I threw a little 80mm fan onto the back of my CPU socket tonight. I went from 4.2GHz, 62C at the socket under sustained IBT AVX runs, to 4.4GHz, 68C at the socket under sustained IBT AVX runs. Ambients are also a bit warmer tonight, so that's a pretty big improvement. I wasn't able to sustain 4.4GHz for more than five or six runs of IBT AVX without it hitting 72C before, but now I can do 20 without getting too close. The difference between core and socket temps last night was 18C - tonight they're just 10C. I'm sure I'd get even better results if I were to cut a hole in the back of my case to let some fresh air feed the fan, but I'm just not that ambitious.

I'd try to push further, but I'm hitting 58C at the core after 20 runs of IBT AVX at Very High. Looks like I'm back to my Hyper 212 Evo bottlenecking me. That's progress, but I can't escape the feeling that if I'd spent more on a motherboard I might not have needed the extra fan. Live and learn.

Regardless, it's quiet and you can't see it, so it doesn't really matter. It just keeps air moving over the socket.
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I don't know if others will still claim 63 degrees on the core being the limit but, it has been updated lately with AOD that core temp limit was 70.

Personally hit more than that doing Cinebench with no ill effects til now.

Temperature Throttling also happens further than 80 on mine. IDK if I'm reading the right temp but yeah. biggrin.gif
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I'd try to push further, but I'm hitting 58C at the core after 20 runs of IBT AVX at Very High. Looks like I'm back to my Hyper 212 Evo bottlenecking me. That's progress, but I can't escape the feeling that if I'd spent more on a motherboard I might not have needed the extra fan. Live and learn.

Well, no matter the motherboard, you would still want to have a fan on the back for cheap extra cooling. Ive had my 92mm fan on the back for 10 years thru many many upgrades. Its still kicking and quiet, but then again Ive run it at 7 volts all that time. Just have to dust her off from time to time, heh.
I dont remember the brand, but it was probably a fan out of an old defective power supply. I probably should replace it soon.

58C at the core after 20 runs of IBT AVX at Very High is still good, I would up the overclock even more. Keep in mind IBT AVX is just for stability testing. Hardly any programs push that hard. Now, if youre folding 24/7, then yes I would stop there.
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Hey guys, back with another question. I managed to get to 4.5Ghz but only with 1.46V at load. After about an hour of prime95 blend the max temps read 69 on socket and 69 on core. Would that be okay for 24/7? I don't plan to fold at the moment so i'll most likely never get to those temps without prime95. I'll do some more tinkering this afternoon when i get home but i wanted to hear your opinion on that. I will probably reapply thermal paste as well. ( i had to take the cooler off because of some wires and i didn't clean it, i just put it back on)
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I think that my problem is this board that i have only be 6+2 power phase.

Already saw some videos and reviews, and i think that with Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 i will be able to run 4.5Ghz stable, without any fan on the vrm/back of the socket, and still have good temps.
You might be fine with the Asus M5A99X Evo R2.0,which is 8+2 phase,and has some really nice heatsinks on it,if you're really set on buying a new board .
I'm still new to having a FX-8320,and have the 8+2 phase 990FXA-UD3 rev4.0 on my 8320,it did 4.4Ghz,although I'm not comfortable with the hot temps of the CPU as I'm only using a Hyper 212Evo.

I have a question for anyone who could guide me where to start on a NB overclock if even possible with these FX cpu's? I got quite the boost with my Phenom II X6,I'd like increase ram performance a bit with my 8230 too.
The M5A99's are actually 6+2+2. 6 CPU phases. 2 DRAM phases and 2 NB phases.
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NB you just notch up the multi and normally can do this on stock nb volts. 2600mhz on 200fsb you can get higher if you FSB oc

did you mean FSB?
Do you mean 2600Mhz on just the multi? Any noticeable increase in heat? The NB heatsink on the 990fxa gets warm at stock,and isn't nearly as large as the Sabertooth/CHV heatsinks.
Yes,I've been using messing with the FSB to oc lately,but at the moment it's just bumped to x20 = 4.0ghz with the multi until I have a better cooler,maybe the NH-D14 or go with water the first time with a H100i or Glacier 240.
2600NB should not be to difficult by anymeans. But as you get close to 2700 and things start to get tough. It's like the 4.8GHz voltage wall. You need massive amounts of voltage for any meaningful gains to the NB. Eg: My 2700mhz CPU-NB requires 1.475V. Keep in mind that I do use 2400MHz CL9 RAM. So that also adds to the stress.
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Intel Celeron G1840 MSI Z97-Guard Pro Gigabyte RX580 Gaming 4G Gigabyte RX570 Gaming 4G 
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XFX RX480 reference edition 8G Gigabyte RX570 Gaming 4g Gigabyte RX570 Gaming 4G G-Skill Ares F3-1600C9D 
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Samsung 750 Evo 120GB Stock  Windows 10 Pro  Gigabyte XP1200M 
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