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yes but i just posted proof of it changing in the hwinfo64 based on that bios setting by setting it lower...this should not happen based on the other screenshots ive seen and what im reading from you guys... anything i set the value to in bios the hwinfo value matches accordingly... this should not happen right... or could this just be a hwinfo bug reading it improperly?

EDIT: others have clearly changed from stock values but it still shows the stock vid in hwinfo right? What am i missing, sorry if im being dense it just doesnt compute lol

sorry cmpee didnt see your edit no i am using 0mv offset
Edited by mfknjadagr8 - 4/3/14 at 9:06am
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My VCORE-1 does not go above 50°C yet. I do have a 140mm (albeit a slim and low-RPM one) on back case panel blowing on the back of CPU socket and VRM and it's doing a decent job so far. I did consider attaching the old stock CPU fan to VRM heatsink, but new CPU cooler ain't exactly space-friendly and is making it somewhat difficult to access VRM and RAM (even had to move one module - curse you, HyperX Beast >.<). Luckily, I do have goodish air circulation inside the case and positive pressure.

I will do some research on that VID issue, but stuff seems to be running all right for now; core registers properly and has very tiny fluctuations based on load, so I guess I should be happy. The fact that it follows Vcore for some, but stays fixed for others was what got me worried in the first place. Seems like Johan45 dug up some good info already :3

Thank you so much for the help, everyone. Now I know few more things about OC, and will hopefully score better results soon. Oh, just one more thing: when I mentioned 60°C/70°C for core/socket, I was referring to safe temperatures according to a post on tomshardware. From what I read and understood, AMD said that while CPU can operate at higher temperatures (70°C on core starts throttling and MB probably issues thermal shutdown), stability is not guaranteed above 61.1°C/70°C. Or did I get that wrong? It will probably work over 60°C, but I guess it's more of a psychological thing to keep me cautiously on the edge.

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yes but i just posted proof of it changing in the hwinfo64 based on that bios setting by setting it lower...this should not happen based on the other screenshots ive seen and what im reading from you guys... anything i set the value to in bios the hwinfo value matches accordingly... this should not happen right... or could this just be a hwinfo bug reading it improperly?

sorry cmpee didnt see your edit no i am using 0mv offset
Long shot, but could it be related to Turbo if it's being used? Based on Johan45, it would seem that those are the values being used for specific multipliers if Vcore is left on Auto.
Edited by koscum - 4/3/14 at 9:07am
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post #32973 of 67492
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Originally Posted by Johan45 View Post

It's you IMC that's giving you fits I'm certain of that try it at 1.3v with the CPU at 1.4
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Originally Posted by koscum View Post

My VCORE-1 does not go above 50°C yet. I do have a 140mm (albeit a slim and low-RPM one) on back case panel blowing on the back of CPU socket and VRM and it's doing a decent job so far. I did consider attaching the old stock CPU fan to VRM heatsink, but new CPU cooler ain't exactly space-friendly and is making it somewhat difficult to access VRM and RAM (even had to move one module - curse you, HyperX Beast >.<). Luckily, I do have goodish air circulation inside the case and positive pressure.

I will do some research on that VID issue, but stuff seems to be running all right for now; core registers properly and has very tiny fluctuations based on load, so I guess I should be happy. The fact that it follows Vcore for some, but stays fixed for others was what got me worried in the first place. Seems like Johan45 dug up some good info already :3

Thank you so much for the help, everyone. Now I know few more things about OC, and will hopefully score better results soon. Oh, just one more thing: when I mentioned 60°C/70°C for core/socket, I was referring to safe temperatures according to a post on tomshardware. From what I read and understood, AMD said that while CPU can operate at higher temperatures (70°C on core starts throttling and MB probably issues thermal shutdown), stability is not guaranteed above 61.1°C/70°C. Or did I get that wrong? It will probably work over 60°C, but I guess it's more of a psychological thing to keep me cautiously on the edge.
I am going to have a fun weekend :3
70c on the core is fine when stress testing.
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Long shot, but could it be related to Turbo if it's being used? Based on Johan45, it would seem that those are the values being used for specific multipliers if Vcore is left on Auto.

i have all of those options disabled.. all power saving off, turbo off, offsets at 0... just seems odd smile.gif
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i have all of those options disabled.. all power saving off, turbo off, offsets at 0... just seems odd smile.gif

It could just be Asrock.

For whatever reasons, mobo manufacturers does their own tricks. An example is FSB fluctuations.
There was an article that compared FSB offsets on amd boards.
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Not saying that's the same case, but VID control seems tied to Mobo as well
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From what I read and understood, AMD said that while CPU can operate at higher temperatures (70°C on core starts throttling and MB probably issues thermal shutdown), stability is not guaranteed above 61.1°C/70°C. Or did I get that wrong? It will probably work over 60°C, but I guess it's more of a psychological thing to keep me cautiously on the edge.

Then 6 months later, with the new Amd Overdrive release, it shows that 70C is the Thermal Max on the core for my FX-6300. And as far as I can tell, the throttling temp would be governed by the mobos socket temp not core temp. And 70C does not issue a thermal shutdown.
    
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My VCORE-1 does not go above 50°C yet. I do have a 140mm (albeit a slim and low-RPM one) on back case panel blowing on the back of CPU socket and VRM and it's doing a decent job so far. I did consider attaching the old stock CPU fan to VRM heatsink, but new CPU cooler ain't exactly space-friendly and is making it somewhat difficult to access VRM and RAM (even had to move one module - curse you, HyperX Beast >.<). Luckily, I do have goodish air circulation inside the case and positive pressure.

I will do some research on that VID issue, but stuff seems to be running all right for now; core registers properly and has very tiny fluctuations based on load, so I guess I should be happy. The fact that it follows Vcore for some, but stays fixed for others was what got me worried in the first place. Seems like Johan45 dug up some good info already :3

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I am going to have a fun weekend :3

Throttling happens past 80 in my experience. That's protection in action..

Thermal shutdown happen on me 90+

No ill effects noticed yet.
Edited by mus1mus - 4/3/14 at 9:32am
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sorry cmpee didnt see your edit no i am using 0mv offset

Im confused. You have a choice of using manually input voltages OR offset voltages, but not both at the same time. So are you manually inputting the voltage number ?
    
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Im confused. You have a choice of using manually input voltages OR offset voltages, but not both at the same time. So are you manually inputting the voltage number ?

some board got that option.

Asus P8Z77-V gives you a choice of manual voltages or offsets..as an example
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some board got that option.

Asus P8Z77-V gives you a choice of manual voltages or offsets..

At the same time ?? So which voltage would it pick ??confused.gif
    
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