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... What?

Fans on one side of the rad push, ones on the other pull... It's done to increase pressure due to high fin density.

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i fail to find how push/pull is better, surely pull air into the rad with the other pushing air in is gonna be just an explosion in the middle....

all of my tests with every combo one can get and the difference is minute

if im wrong then shoot me tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by KyadCK View Post

... What?

Fans on one side of the rad push, ones on the other pull... It's done to increase pressure due to high fin density.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
A single DOA 220 does not count as review experience. The 220 edges out the H100, though Corsair's support makes it worth it. Depends what you need more
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i fail to find how push/pull is better, surely pull air into the rad with the other pushing air in is gonna be just an explosion in the middle....

all of my tests with every combo one can get and the difference is minute

if im wrong then shoot me tongue.gif

OK, look, It's like having one person push a heavy block while the other pulls it.

Two motors moving air in the same direction at the same speed allows the strain on each motor to be cut in half for the same effect, while creating a tunneling effect due to the tube-like conditions of rad fins. The reduced strain means that both fans can work stronger. While it does not let them exceed maximum pressure or CFM, it does limit the reduction of both that occurs when using high-density rads, or other obstacles that would make a fan work harder, like HDD cages.

Push/Pull can have the same effect at lower RPMs than both Push or Pull.

You are literally the first person I have ever seen think that two fans working in unison would be bad in any way except power consumption. redface.gif

EDIT: It's also why people will use more than one pump in a loop.
Edited by KyadCK - 4/7/14 at 1:01pm
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OK, look, It's like having one person push a heavy block while the other pulls it.

Two motors moving air in the same direction at the same speed allows the strain on each motor to be cut in half for the same effect, while creating a tunneling effect due to the tube-like conditions of rad fins. The reduced strain means that both fans can work stronger. While it does not let them exceed maximum pressure or CFM, it does limit the reduction of both that occurs when using high-density fans, or other obstacles that would make a fan work harder, like HDD cages.

Push/Pull can have the same effect at lower RPMs can than both Push or Pull.

You are literally the first person I have ever seen think that two fans working in unison would be bad in any way except power consumption. redface.gif

Maybe i smoked too much today, lol

if u are pushing air into the rad and then have the other pulling surely the one that is pulling is gonna have its air wasted.....
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OK, look, It's like having one person push a heavy block while the other pulls it.

Two motors moving air in the same direction at the same speed allows the strain on each motor to be cut in half for the same effect, while creating a tunneling effect due to the tube-like conditions of rad fins. The reduced strain means that both fans can work stronger. While it does not let them exceed maximum pressure or CFM, it does limit the reduction of both that occurs when using high-density fans, or other obstacles that would make a fan work harder, like HDD cages.

Push/Pull can have the same effect at lower RPMs can than both Push or Pull.

You are literally the first person I have ever seen think that two fans working in unison would be bad in any way except power consumption. redface.gif

Maybe i smoked too much today, lol

if u are pushing air into the rad and then have the other pulling surely the one that is pulling is gonna have its air wasted.....

Wasted how? It's pulling the air that the other fan pushed.



I literally have no idea what you're going on about.
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Wasted how? It's pulling the air that the other fan pushed.



I literally have no idea what you're going on about.

actually my setup is that, i been smoking too much rolleyes.gif

what have i been thinking about ? i must if got my wires crossed tongue.gif


ill coyly go back to my hole haha

but i am gonna prove theres hardly any difference to push/pull and push

i call that diagram pull/pull thats what i got confused lol
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actually my setup is that, i been smoking too much rolleyes.gif

what have i been thinking about ? i must if got my wires crossed tongue.gif


ill coyly go back to my hole haha

but i am gonna prove theres hardly any difference to push/pull and push

With what Rad? You can prove all you want, but Push/Pull makes a larger difference in very dense (high FPI) and/or thick (50mm+) radiators. If you're using a low-FPI thin ran then it's incomparable.

The H100 is very dense by the way, it's why it works.
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With what Rad? You can prove all you want, but Push/Pull makes a larger difference in very dense (high FPI) and/or thick (50mm+) radiators. It's you're using a low-FPI thin ran then it's incomparable.

The H100 is very dense by the way, it's why it works.

i call that diagram pull/pull thats what i got confused lol
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With what Rad? You can prove all you want, but Push/Pull makes a larger difference in very dense (high FPI) and/or thick (50mm+) radiators. If you're using a low-FPI thin ran then it's incomparable.

The H100 is very dense by the way, it's why it works.

Yepper I did the same with my TT AIO. On the Phobya it's a lot more open so I have fans only in push it still uses 9x140s.
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Maybe i smoked too much today, lol

if u are pushing air into the rad and then have the other pulling surely the one that is pulling is gonna have its air wasted.....

It's about air pressure. But the differences are minuscule in most cases. Push/pull has the greatest effect with very thick rads (I'm talking +40mm thick high fpi blocks) and/or when using slow fans with low pressure ratings.
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