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Originally Posted by NBAasDOGG View Post

Is there anyone that can play 24/7 BF4 on 5/5.1Ghz? If yes, what volt do you use?

I don't play battlefield but to be stable at 5.1 you're looking at 1.55v plus more than likely and that really depends on your CPU and cooling.
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I made a little drawing for ya Gerty, hope you will understand a little.

Its not the best drawing but i did my best LOL

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OK, look, It's like having one person push a heavy block while the other pulls it.

Two motors moving air in the same direction at the same speed allows the strain on each motor to be cut in half for the same effect, while creating a tunneling effect due to the tube-like conditions of rad fins. The reduced strain means that both fans can work stronger. While it does not let them exceed maximum pressure or CFM, it does limit the reduction of both that occurs when using high-density rads, or other obstacles that would make a fan work harder, like HDD cages.

Push/Pull can have the same effect at lower RPMs than both Push or Pull.

You are literally the first person I have ever seen think that two fans working in unison would be bad in any way except power consumption. redface.gif

EDIT: It's also why people will use more than one pump in a loop.


Yes indeed, and that is why speedboats uses 2 engines instead of 1, its not that the horsepower increases but its the pulling power that is doubled.
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Is there anyone that can play 24/7 BF4 on 5/5.1Ghz? If yes, what volt do you use?

It takes about 1.53 volts for my 8350 to run 5ghz on BF4. I ran 5.1 for a while, but I don't recall the volts it requred, probably 1.56 or so would be my best guess on that particular chip.

Like others have said, cooling and the chip itself will make a big difference .

As for the push/pull discussion, the h-100 I have gives great results for what it is. The push fans are 140 mm high cfm and the pull are high SP 120's .
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Originally Posted by NBAasDOGG View Post

Is there anyone that can play 24/7 BF4 on 5/5.1Ghz? If yes, what volt do you use?

For my 8350:

4.8 = 1.488V
5.0 = 1.57V (BF4 is stable at 1.55V but i like PRIME/IBT stable better, which takes 1.57-1.6V)
5.1 = 1.602V
5.2 = 1.62V
5.5 = I have no idea. lol
 
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Mine is like the same, I need 1.58 or 1.6 to be fully stable.

I can play games at lower but after a while or if i am rendering or doing stuff in Adobe premiere pro it crashes.

i am at 4.8 at 1.520V but maybe i can get lower, haven't tried yet.
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Thew H220x is comming out in the end of this month, or May.

The difference of performance beetween the H220 and the H220x will not be much, right?

Should i pick a H220? Or wait for the H220x?

imo wait h220x has better expandability options in the future

both have the same pump, although the new one may have a higher rpm cap ( up to 4500rpm ) atm little is known about it
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That is not what this fella says and what my friend experienced, and 10c warmer than the H220?! the graph does not show that, is that your own experience?

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/swiftech_h220_aio_review/1
so 1 review overtakes 3 ?
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EDIT: It's also why people will use more than one pump in a loop.


not true, depending on the type of way you put it in your loop,


in parallel is a poor choice (** please see below ) , although it adds flow rate (gph/lpm) if you loose a pump it can create a mini loop bypassing your main loop ( water takes the path of least resistance which in most cases, assuming pump "a" and "b" and pump "a" dies water will leave pump "b" discharge flow through pump "a" discharge and exit pump "a" intake and flow back to pump "b" intake )

** unless of course you put a one way valve ( aka a check valve ) in

in series pumps add head pressure as seen here
Source


Or here
Source



and to quote martin
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The 35X was my favorite pump over the last year due to its power, efficiency, and PWM smart/accuracy capabilities, Swiftech has once again taken something great and made it better. The 35X2 builds upon the same technology packaging two motors in one which gives the package much more pumping power range. It also allows the same amount of pumping power as one 35X at half the speed which does also provide some noise benefits at like pumping power levels over a single pump. I just found my new favorite pump or is that “Pumps”..smile.gif

and if one pump dies, then you have a ( or several ) backups
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Push/pull is a serial design... Serial pumps would simply add the ability to push through more blocks...
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That is not what this fella says and what my friend experienced, and 10c warmer than the H220?! the graph does not show that, is that your own experience?

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/swiftech_h220_aio_review/1

It wasn't my own experience. It was a quote I took directly off my 3rd source of my post at the bottom of the article. I definitely take personal stake in this debate since when you own something you want to have buyers confirmation that you made the right decision. I'll also have you know that I checked your source and if the best you got is that the H100i cools 'evenly as well' as H220 then I rest my case your honor. tongue.gif If you want my legitimate opinion on the matter they are both good coolers and the difference would be miniscule when you take off stock fans and slap on some aftermarket ones; however, be careful what you say when there's evidence to prove the contrary.
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