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How is it easy to knock off mounts with air pressure or vac lol.....commercial computer cleaners use vacs and air cans with no damage whatsoever tongue.gif

You don't need to make excuses we all know what you use the vac for rolleyes.gif

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You don't need to make excuses we all know what you use the vac for rolleyes.gif

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HaHa stranger who r u again?......

i cant do any thing like that im afraid its my meds they stolen my libido thumb.gifmad.gif
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I've hit a bit of a snag...I'm still at 4.4GHz, haven't changed a thing, but had a weird lock up while playing some Dishonored. Following said lockup, I rebooted and started tinkering with IBT AVX. I'd previously run it at 4.4GHz with the same voltage at the same settings (very high) for 20 passes with no problems. It failed within two passes and speed results that were lower than I'd previously seen. I upped voltages three or four times trying to find stability before I had a lightbulb moment and shut the computer all the way down, then fired it back up again. It passed twenty times with no issues, and with speeds that were more in line with where they should be.

I decided to do a little experiment. I'd read (I believe in this thread, actually) that running IBT AVX or Prime95 with Unigine Heaven at the same time will heavily stress the power supply and check its stability, so I did just that. Within five minutes the machine locked up again. Heaven has never given me any trouble before. I've run it for hours with the settings I'm currently running my GPUs at with no hickups. I've also run IBT AVX for extended periods of time with no problems.

What are the odds that my power supply is choking, or defective? It's a Corsair CX750, running an FX 8320 OC'ed to 4.4GHz at 1.356v on an Asus M5A99FX Pro R2.0 motherboard. My GPUs are two MSI GTX 660s with just a 200MHz bump to memory. My hard drives are an 256GB Samsung Pro SSD and a 7200RPM WD Blue 1TB HDD, and the only other draw (fans aside) is a DVD drive that never sees any use. According to the calculator I used I'm well within the voltage level provided by this power supply. It's only a few months old, but I'd previously noticed that it made an odd squeaking sound that got louder under heavy load. Maybe I need to RMA it.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Yours is a tick under mine. I have a GS800. You have a single 12V rail @62 amps. With just 2 660s and 4.4Ghz 8320 I wouldn't think you would have issue unless the PSU is somewhat defective. You should buy a Kill-a-watt meter, that will let you know immediately.
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I've hit a bit of a snag...I'm still at 4.4GHz, haven't changed a thing, but had a weird lock up while playing some Dishonored. Following said lockup, I rebooted and started tinkering with IBT AVX. I'd previously run it at 4.4GHz with the same voltage at the same settings (very high) for 20 passes with no problems. It failed within two passes and speed results that were lower than I'd previously seen. I upped voltages three or four times trying to find stability before I had a lightbulb moment and shut the computer all the way down, then fired it back up again. It passed twenty times with no issues, and with speeds that were more in line with where they should be.

I decided to do a little experiment. I'd read (I believe in this thread, actually) that running IBT AVX or Prime95 with Unigine Heaven at the same time will heavily stress the power supply and check its stability, so I did just that. Within five minutes the machine locked up again. Heaven has never given me any trouble before. I've run it for hours with the settings I'm currently running my GPUs at with no hickups. I've also run IBT AVX for extended periods of time with no problems.

What are the odds that my power supply is choking, or defective? It's a Corsair CX750, running an FX 8320 OC'ed to 4.4GHz at 1.356v on an Asus M5A99FX Pro R2.0 motherboard. My GPUs are two MSI GTX 660s with just a 200MHz bump to memory. My hard drives are an 256GB Samsung Pro SSD and a 7200RPM WD Blue 1TB HDD, and the only other draw (fans aside) is a DVD drive that never sees any use. According to the calculator I used I'm well within the voltage level provided by this power supply. It's only a few months old, but I'd previously noticed that it made an odd squeaking sound that got louder under heavy load. Maybe I need to RMA it.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Yeah definitely sounds like your PSU. I would say try and return it and get a different model or a different brand. The thing is most of the Corsair PSU 's, (with the exception of the high end AX,and AXi models and I think the TX are OK as well) are of poor quality. So CX HX GS etc etc are made by OEM' s such as CWT which use poorer quality components like Chinese Capxxon caps. Which leads to lower quality. People just assume because it has the Corsair brandname on the box means it is better but that unfortunately is not the case. The thing is most of Corsair's range is overpriced for what you get when compared to the competition. Corsair is really testing their customers loyalty by using lesser OEM's and charging more than the competition. However using lesser OEM's it's not a bad thing. Endorsement of a lesser OEM by a brand such as Corsair will eventually lead to growth of the OEM and the quality will improve accordingly. Adding to more competition and better products for the consumer at the end of the day. But that day has not come yet. So get a different brand. CoolerMaster VS series are good and so are the V series. Other brands such as Antec and Seasonic are great.
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Yeah definitely sounds like your PSU. I would say try and return it and get a different model or a different brand. The thing is most of the Corsair PSU 's, (with the exception of the high end AX,and AXi models and I think the TX are OK as well) are of poor quality. So CX HX GS etc etc are made by OEM' s such as CWT which use poorer quality components like Chinese Capxxon caps. Which leads to lower quality. People just assume because it has the Corsair brandname on the box means it is better but that unfortunately is not the case. The thing is most of Corsair's range is overpriced for what you get when compared to the competition. Corsair is really testing their customers loyalty by using lesser OEM's and charging more than the competition. However using lesser OEM's it's not a bad thing. Endorsement of a lesser OEM by a brand such as Corsair will eventually lead to growth of the OEM and the quality will improve accordingly. Adding to more competition and better products for the consumer at the end of the day. But that day has not come yet. So get a different brand. CoolerMaster VS series are good and so are the V series. Other brands such as Antec and Seasonic are great.
The HX is not bad@all, pretty darn reliable it seems. Seasonic is almost 100% good, but Antec is a mixed bag from what I see, some good, some BAD.
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I've hit a bit of a snag...I'm still at 4.4GHz, haven't changed a thing, but had a weird lock up while playing some Dishonored. Following said lockup, I rebooted and started tinkering with IBT AVX. I'd previously run it at 4.4GHz with the same voltage at the same settings (very high) for 20 passes with no problems. It failed within two passes and speed results that were lower than I'd previously seen. I upped voltages three or four times trying to find stability before I had a lightbulb moment and shut the computer all the way down, then fired it back up again. It passed twenty times with no issues, and with speeds that were more in line with where they should be.

I decided to do a little experiment. I'd read (I believe in this thread, actually) that running IBT AVX or Prime95 with Unigine Heaven at the same time will heavily stress the power supply and check its stability, so I did just that. Within five minutes the machine locked up again. Heaven has never given me any trouble before. I've run it for hours with the settings I'm currently running my GPUs at with no hickups. I've also run IBT AVX for extended periods of time with no problems.

What are the odds that my power supply is choking, or defective? It's a Corsair CX750, running an FX 8320 OC'ed to 4.4GHz at 1.356v on an Asus M5A99FX Pro R2.0 motherboard. My GPUs are two MSI GTX 660s with just a 200MHz bump to memory. My hard drives are an 256GB Samsung Pro SSD and a 7200RPM WD Blue 1TB HDD, and the only other draw (fans aside) is a DVD drive that never sees any use. According to the calculator I used I'm well within the voltage level provided by this power supply. It's only a few months old, but I'd previously noticed that it made an odd squeaking sound that got louder under heavy load. Maybe I need to RMA it.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Yeah definitely sounds like your PSU. I would say try and return it and get a different model or a different brand. The thing is most of the Corsair PSU 's, (with the exception of the high end AX,and AXi models and I think the TX are OK as well) are of poor quality. So CX HX GS etc etc are made by OEM' s such as CWT which use poorer quality components like Chinese Capxxon caps. Which leads to lower quality. People just assume because it has the Corsair brandname on the box means it is better but that unfortunately is not the case. The thing is most of Corsair's range is overpriced for what you get when compared to the competition. Corsair is really testing their customers loyalty by using lesser OEM's and charging more than the competition. However using lesser OEM's it's not a bad thing. Endorsement of a lesser OEM by a brand such as Corsair will eventually lead to growth of the OEM and the quality will improve accordingly. Adding to more competition and better products for the consumer at the end of the day. But that day has not come yet. So get a different brand. CoolerMaster VS series are good and so are the V series. Other brands such as Antec and Seasonic are great.

HX is up there with AX and TX. See: HX1050.

CX*M and GS are "ok"

CX non-M are, shall we say, sketchy.

The corsair brand name DOES imply that it's better, because compared to other vendors, even their crap is golden. Need I remind you of my CM GS750 that can only provide 550-600w? Makes the CX series sound great. Of course, the brand much farther implies warranty quality than build quality at low end, and he really should have found a TX650v2 instead of a CX750 non-M.

The extra price is the cost of the warranty/support. The only company that was even on par with Corsair for RMA in my experience was Gigabyte. Even G.Skill isn't as fast.
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HX is up there with AX and TX. See: HX1050.

CX*M and GS are "ok"

CX non-M are, shall we say, sketchy.

The corsair brand name DOES imply that it's better, because compared to other vendors, even their crap is golden. Need I remind you of my CM GS750 that can only provide 550-600w? Makes the CX series sound great. Of course, the brand much farther implies warranty quality than build quality at low end, and he really should have found a TX650v2 instead of a CX750 non-M.

The extra price is the cost of the warranty/support. The only company that was even on par with Corsair for RMA in my experience was Gigabyte. Even G.Skill isn't as fast.
I was expecting my GS800 to be a bad PSU after so many downing Corsair. But then I looked up a review expecting the worst and BLAM it was better than OK. Was capable of 1000watts, efficiency in the high 80s approaching 90% for a great deal of the supply voltage. Felt so much better after that.
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I was expecting my GS800 to be a bad PSU after so many downing Corsair. But then I looked up a review expecting the worst and BLAM it was better than OK. Was capable of 1000watts, efficiency in the high 80s approaching 90% for a great deal of the supply voltage. Felt so much better after that.
please dont take this as an attack, i didnt know this stuff either until @shilka helped me so much !
everything you just referred to are the 2 worst things to look at when purchasing a psu

this kind of a review sucks, as they do not use an oscilloscope but they use a cheap $10 piece of junk ! * not saying all reviews on guru does that, but this one did

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/corsair_gs800_review,6.html

this is what you need to know RIPPLE, voltage regulation, and i like transient response

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-GS800-Power-Supply-Review/1103/7

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/GS800_V2/8.html

i like johnny guru as he is really thorough but he has no reviews on a GS unit

here is a good guide to good specs http://www.overclock.net/t/715889/psu-articles/0_100#post9110838

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They showed ripple in the one I saw, it wasn't great but not terrible. For the most part it held up. It was a technical review with all the tests. Not saying it's the best but near the worst thing ever as Shilka generally makes every PSU out to be, cept a few. I get needing to know top notch but just because it's not doesn't mean death and decay. I have had nothing but GS series and not one issue. Of course I generally try to have more than I need, so less chance of an issue.

I read all your links well except the hardwaresecrets, it wouldn't pull up. I think that tech powerup is the same or similar to the one I was talking about, I remember the ripple tests. But again everyone says they were pleasantly happy/and/or/surprised with the GS800. Not saying it is outsatanding but as I said I was expecting crap after all the Corsair PSU hate around this site. I remember my brother bought the cx600 or something and shilka was crapping it. So I looked at a few reviews and it was not as terrible as he was making it out to be. Had one bad part, well not bad but rather not the best, that was it. No mention of insta-death if you used it. Actually for the most part a decent PSU.

I get we need to be careful when purchasing parts, especially PSUs, but... . Enough with the negativity. I mean put it where it stands. Its not a pass fail in every case. There are a lot of middle ground PSUs, and of course a lot of crappy ones, usually the sub 400Watt. If I were CF 4 $500 GPUs OCed and I was close to max wattage then I would want to be careful. But if I am not likely to hit 80% of max wattage then the risk is far next to not than what some may have you believe.
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They showed ripple in the one I saw, it wasn't great but not terrible. For the most part it held up. It was a technical review with all the tests. Not saying it's the best but near the worst thing ever as Shilka generally makes every PSU out to be, cept a few. I get needing to know top notch but just because it's not doesn't mean death and decay. I have had nothing but GS series and not one issue. Of course I generally try to have more than I need, so less chance of an issue.

I read all your links well except the hardwaresecrets, it wouldn't pull up. I think that tech powerup is the same or similar to the one I was talking about, I remember the ripple tests. But again everyone says they were pleasantly happy/and/or/surprised with the GS800. Not saying it is outsatanding but as I said I was expecting crap after all the Corsair PSU hate around this site. I remember my brother bought the cx600 or something and shilka was crapping it. So I looked at a few reviews and it was not as terrible as he was making it out to be. Had one bad part, well not bad but rather not the best, that was it. No mention of insta-death if you used it. Actually for the most part a decent PSU.

I get we need to be careful when purchasing parts, especially PSUs, but... . Enough with the negativity. I mean put it where it stands. Its not a pass fail in every case. There are a lot of middle ground PSUs, and of course a lot of crappy ones, usually the sub 400Watt. If I were CF 4 $500 GPUs OCed and I was close to max wattage then I would want to be careful. But if I am not likely to hit 80% of max wattage then the risk is far next to not than what some may have you believe.

i will never promote a mediocre psu it is the only thing in your build that can and will take out everything but your case. and it affects length of life for all components
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