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KyadCK I dont see your Rep+ button.
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You can easily put both psus on one circuit then. It will only pull a max of 7.5a on 220
hrmm... this could explain the issue i had a few years ago with three pcs on the same circuit rofl....
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Which boils down to you can use thinner gauge wire (per the code) to carry more wattage. smile.gif

Not necessarily thinner by a lot. A step thinner maybe. tongue.gif

If you want to carry more wattage with a 220 volt line, use the same gauge wire as that of a 115 120 or 110 volt lines. thumb.gif
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The initial question wasnt about the electric installation, but how much PSU more do I need to power an OC computer. The AX1200i is larger than the AX860i, so putting 2 AX1200i on the same tower is harder than one 1200 and one 860.
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Keep in mind that 220v will run a tad more efficient than 120v here in the states. You will also have more potential energy within the same amperage as well.

(I.E. 120v*15amps=1800watts vs. 220v*15amps=3300watts)

You should have decent headroom (although pushing it) with a 1200watt PSU.

Correct me guys to think of this, does your statement imply that 15 Amps is the maximum current or amperage you guys can draw from the wall socket?

Isn't it that you can always change the circuit breaker values to match your needs? As well as spec'ing the wires?

Also, I don't know if this also applies to computer PSUs but, Audio Amplifiers for example can push out several thousand Watts of Power to the speakers without creating any issues when plugged in to a wall socket. Has something to do with the signals they use and produce.
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You can easily put both psus on one circuit then. It will only pull a max of 7.5a on 220

Yes.

Can't you on a standard 120 volt line?
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hrmm... this could explain the issue i had a few years ago with three pcs on the same circuit rofl....

What happened? Circuit breaker trip off?
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The initial question wasnt about the electric installation, but how much PSU more do I need to power an OC computer. The AX1200i is larger than the AX860i, so putting 2 AX1200i on the same tower is harder than one 1200 and one 860.

boils down to your preference.

2 X 1200 would give you a lot of headroom for Oc'ing.
1 x 1200 + 1 x 850 should probably work fine. Until you OC the crap out of your rig to chase numbers.
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Keep in mind that 220v will run a tad more efficient than 120v here in the states. You will also have more potential energy within the same amperage as well.

(I.E. 120v*15amps=1800watts vs. 220v*15amps=3300watts)

You should have decent headroom (although pushing it) with a 1200watt PSU.

Correct me guys to think of this, does your statement imply that 15 Amps is the maximum current or amperage you guys can draw from the wall socket?

Isn't it that you can always change the circuit breaker values to match your needs? As well as spec'ing the wires?

Also, I don't know if this also applies to computer PSUs but, Audio Amplifiers for example can push out several thousand Watts of Power to the speakers without creating any issues when plugged in to a wall socket. Has something to do with the signals they use and produce.
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You can easily put both psus on one circuit then. It will only pull a max of 7.5a on 220

Yes.

Can't you on a standard 120

Deleted too much on my phone. But to answer your questions.

You can change circuit breakers. However. To be up to code in most states in the u.s. you can not excede 20a on main recepticles ( higher amp plugs hace designated special plugs). And the wire has to be able to take that amount of current.

You could hack it. But never something I would recommend.
s to the speakers you are talking high vs low voltage. It is not pulling hundreds of amps from the wall

You can put as many on one circuit as the circuit breaker allows. However 1200w at full load is about 15a at the wall. So you would need 2 separate breakers in most cases
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Originally Posted by aaroc View Post

The initial question wasnt about the electric installation, but how much PSU more do I need to power an OC computer. The AX1200i is larger than the AX860i, so putting 2 AX1200i on the same tower is harder than one 1200 and one 860.

boils down to your preference.

2 X 1200 would give you a lot of headroom for Oc'ing.
1 x 1200 + 1 x 850 should probably work fine. Until you OC the crap out of your rig to chase numbers.

Either is a bit over kill 3 gpu on1200w fourth and cpu on secondary .

Leaves a few hundred ways on each as head room
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And the wire has to be able to take that amount of current.
14 gauge solid copper = 15 amps. Most common household wiring and receptacles.
12 gauge solid copper = 20 amps. Pretty rare in a house. (except for a time years back when 12ga was selling for less than 14ga, heh)
10 gauge solid copper = 30 amps. Mostly for electric water heaters.
8 gauge solid copper = 40 amps. Some electric stoves and some large water heaters.
6 gauge solid copper = 50 amps, mostly used for electric stoves.

Using solid aluminum wire, not allowed in most areas anymore except for over 30 amps and special clamps, you have to use the next gauge down for the amperage, ie thicker wire.
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You can put as many on one circuit as the circuit breaker allows. However 1200w at full load is about 15a at the wall. So you would need 2 separate breakers in most cases
Yeah, he would need a 14 ga or heavier extension cord for the second psu and he would most likely find the separate second circuit run in another room or a few rooms away. He can easily test which are separate circuits by using lamps in the receptacles and switching off the breakers at the panel one at a time.
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And the wire has to be able to take that amount of current.
14 gauge solid copper = 15 amps. Most common household wiring and receptacles.
12 gauge solid copper = 20 amps. Pretty rare in a house.
10 gauge solid copper = 30 amps. Mostly for electric water heaters.
8 gauge solid copper = 40 amps. Some electric stoves and some large water heaters.
6 gauge solid copper = 50 amps, mostly used for electric stoves.

Using solid aluminum wire, not allowed in most areas anymore except for over 30 amps and special clamps, you have to use the next gauge down for the amperage, ie thicker wire.
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You can put as many on one circuit as the circuit breaker allows. However 1200w at full load is about 15a at the wall. So you would need 2 separate breakers in most cases
Yeah, he would need a 14 ga or heavier extension cord for the second psu and he would most likely find the separate second circuit run in another room or a few rooms away. He can easily test which are separate circuits by using lamps in the receptacles and switching off the breakers at the panel one at a time.

not trying to argue but 12g is pretty common esp in old houses. you are allowed to put 15ga outlets on 20a circuit breakers. most of the outlets in my house are 20a
Source

this is biased off the national code but it is for the state of colorado there are 20a requirements.

personally i only run 12ga unless i need a bigger wire
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And the wire has to be able to take that amount of current.
14 gauge solid copper = 15 amps. Most common household wiring and receptacles.
12 gauge solid copper = 20 amps. Pretty rare in a house.
10 gauge solid copper = 30 amps. Mostly for electric water heaters.
8 gauge solid copper = 40 amps. Some electric stoves and some large water heaters.
6 gauge solid copper = 50 amps, mostly used for electric stoves.

Using solid aluminum wire, not allowed in most areas anymore except for over 30 amps and special clamps, you have to use the next gauge down for the amperage, ie thicker wire.
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You can put as many on one circuit as the circuit breaker allows. However 1200w at full load is about 15a at the wall. So you would need 2 separate breakers in most cases
Yeah, he would need a 14 ga or heavier extension cord for the second psu and he would most likely find the separate second circuit run in another room or a few rooms away. He can easily test which are separate circuits by using lamps in the receptacles and switching off the breakers at the panel one at a time.

not trying to argue but 12g is pretty common esp in old houses. you are allowed to put 15ga outlets on 20a circuit breakers. most of the outlets in my house are 20a

Mine are also Mega, but sage advice non-the-less. I went out and got two 6ft 18A extension cords Hard to find, I found mine at an ACE Hardware) and run my AX1200 off one 20A circuit, and the other. 1000A off a separate circuit.

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AMD FX-8350 @ 5.2GHz Gigabyte GA-990-FXA-UD7 4 x MSI R 290X 4GB Gaming 16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2133 
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4 x Seagate 1 TB 7200 2 x Asus Optiarc Koolance 370 CPU WB/ AlphaCool Water cooling: ... Windows 7 Professional 
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1x3+1 Eyefiniy 5760x1080 Gigabyte 8100K V.2 1-AX1200w + 2x FSP x500w Coolermaster Cosmos II Full Tower 
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