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It's been a long time since I've posted here, but I've got a new GPU to replace my GT 610, and I've also OC'd my FX-8320 to 4.2GHz stable on the Hyper 212 Evo.

    
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It's been a long time since I've posted here, but I've got a new GPU to replace my GT 610, and I've also OC'd my FX-8320 to 4.2GHz stable on the Hyper 212 Evo.


Looking good. Although that does look like a lot of voltage for 4.2GHz. My 8320 is @ 4.4GHz with a tad over 1.3 V

What is your CPU/NB voltage at?
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What is your CPU/NB voltage at?

I believe CPU/NB's set to Auto, regardless this config is stable. Yes, I know, a bit too high for just 4.2, bit it does justice. I might decrease it back to 1.38, which is stock, and see if it remains stable there too.
    
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I was asking because if you try manually setting it to 1.2 V then you may be able to reduce your CPU V and also reduce temps giving a bit more headroom to go for 4.3 or stick @ 4.2 with lower temps. thumb.gif
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I was asking because if you try manually setting it to 1.2 V then you may be able to reduce your CPU V and also reduce temps giving a bit more headroom to go for 4.3 or stick @ 4.2 with lower temps. thumb.gif

Well unfortunatley, I tried decreasing the volatge of the CPU to 1.38, and the NB to 1.25, and it wasn't stable. So I reverted back to stock for now, will go back upto 4.2 with my stable settings again tommorow (it's 10:00 in the night here)
    
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KyadCK is right (as usual).

A 270X is a 7870. The only difference is that the 270X comes with 1400mhz memory, stock. This memory overclock makes it perform slightly better than a stock 7870 Ghz, but the cards are identical. Everyone around here overclocks their GPU memory anyway, and 1400mhz should be doable for almost every 7870. So this doesn't even matter.

Also note they're both GCN 1.0. If the 270X were GCN 1.1 that might make a difference.

If the 270X were GCN 1.1 it would only draw around 120w and would run off a single 6-pin. tongue.gif
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KyadCK is right (as usual).

A 270X is a 7870. The only difference is that the 270X comes with 1400mhz memory, stock. This memory overclock makes it perform slightly better than a stock 7870 Ghz, but the cards are identical. Everyone around here overclocks their GPU memory anyway, and 1400mhz should be doable for almost every 7870. So this doesn't even matter.

Also note they're both GCN 1.0. If the 270X were GCN 1.1 that might make a difference.
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eh, just ask Devildog, he has a Devil 7870 and a Devil 270x..

Not of my forte but, things like an updated BIOS will have huge effect separating the two models.

Pretty sure 280Xs were better in all aspect than 7970s on stock.. So there's more to them between Clock rates and names change IMO.

So put a 280X BIOS on a 7970, no one's stopping you. My 7970 is an original model, but it's got a Ghz BIOS on it. It's no big deal.
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Weren't the later revision chips just improvements in power efficiency?

Pretty sure they couldn't clock as high though redface.gif

Speaking of GPU's though, i'll have another 290 on the way soon biggrin.gif
Didn't get real involved in the debate but I remember it was kinda on the sly how it was happening. I could only assume the newer revisions were better because of the reactions, but as is usually the case could have been a real huge group or ignorant posters (but is that possible? biggrin.gif )

They pulled a Phenom II and tossed out some more efficient dies since they've been making them for like 2-3 years now. They were bound to get better over time eventually.
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It's been a long time since I've posted here, but I've got a new GPU to replace my GT 610, and I've also OC'd my FX-8320 to 4.2GHz stable on the Hyper 212 Evo.


That isn't the AVX version. You'd be getting over 70 GFLOPS if it was.
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KyadCK is correct mostly. My 7870 came with much lower clocks than the 270x and there are differences in overclockability. The 270x cane at 1400 memory true but by itself can get up to 1590 while the 7870 cam at 1200 or 1250, I don't remember, and can't reach 1500. The 270x came with slightly higher core clocks too but can only clock to 1235 on the core where the 7870 I have had above 1275 but the 270x was volt locked and the 7870 I can overvolt to 1.3V. All in all they came up with about the same performance, I think the 7870 was a bit better due to the ability to clock the core higher. I am going to take the both apart today and I will post pics to see how much of a difference there really is between the 2 cards.
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KyadCK is correct mostly. My 7870 came with much lower clocks than the 270x and there are differences in overclockability. The 270x cane at 1400 memory true but by itself can get up to 1590 while the 7870 cam at 1200 or 1250, I don't remember, and can't reach 1500. The 270x came with slightly higher core clocks too but can only clock to 1235 on the core where the 7870 I have had above 1275 but the 270x was volt locked and the 7870 I can overvolt to 1.3V. All in all they came up with about the same performance, I think the 7870 was a bit better due to the ability to clock the core higher. I am going to take the both apart today and I will post pics to see how much of a difference there really is between the 2 cards.

To be noted, this is a direct reflection on PowerColor, NOT on 7870s and 270Xs.

The memory OCability could be due to using Hynix RAM vs Elpida (PC's choice). The volt locking may not be a "retail" decision. You would need a far better range of cards to make any form of comparison than just one from a single company. The Devil cards are not reference model, and so they can not accurately be used to judge. They only represent the different decisions PowerColor made.
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That isn't the AVX version. You'd be getting over 70 GFLOPS if it was.

The zip file claimed that it was the AVX version, probably isn't.
    
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To be noted, this is a direct reflection on PowerColor, NOT on 7870s and 270Xs.

The memory OCability could be due to using Hynix RAM vs Elpida (PC's choice). The volt locking may not be a "retail" decision. You would need a far better range of cards to make any form of comparison than just one from a single company. The Devil cards are not reference model, and so they can not accurately be used to judge. They only represent the different decisions PowerColor made.

Absolutely, I will find out about the memory today when my 750D and new TIM shows up I will be taking the whole system apart and tearing down the cards too.
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