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Yeah I am quite lucky. I was just thinking of what I've RMA'd in the past and... I think nothing? There was a motherboard that I called in about where a PCIe slot went bad, but it was way beyond its warranty so no go on that one. And then there was an SSD that I bought used. I tried to RMA it but needed a receipt. When I asked the seller for it, he just offered a refund for it. Seemed suspicious to me but whatever, I got my money back.

And people have had problems with OCZ RAMs and SSD's, Seagate's HDD's, but not me.

So yeah... I think this is my very first RMA in the 15+ years I've built PC's.

I think someone here on OCN RMAed their old FX processor( I think 8120?) and got upgraded to a 8350. So hopefully AMD will treat you well too.

Kind of weird that the RAM led lights up and not the CPU one... You try that chip on another mobo? Although from what it sounds like the IMC in the 8120 got damaged.


Oh hey, theres a BIOS update for my CHVFZ... wonder if I should bother updating...

Yeah I think that's weird too but then the memory controller is on the chip isn't it?
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cssorkinman has to deal with .1v vDroop AND has to use software overclocking because his motherboard of choice is a GD80. If he can do it, so can a UD3 Rev 3. Your swings are absolutely tame in comparison to what we've had to deal with from time to time, they're not as bad as you make them out to be in the grand scheme of things. tongue.gif

Well, I'd prefer Vdroop over Overshoot any time of the day TBH.

Even if its a .2 Volts Vdroop, your chip would idle at a higher voltage which wouldn't hurt temps as you are idling.

Overshoot is completely opposite. And is only good if all you do is idle. (Low Power Consumption Green Stuff)
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VDROOP can also limit the amount you can overclock as it forces you to use higher voltages in the BIOS in my case i cannot manually input any voltages and is capped at 1.55... so once i hit that mark i will be maxed out by the board... but you saber and crosshair guys probably dont have those woes smile.gif
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cssorkinman has to deal with .1v vDroop AND has to use software overclocking because his motherboard of choice is a GD80. If he can do it, so can a UD3 Rev 3. Your swings are absolutely tame in comparison to what we've had to deal with from time to time, they're not as bad as you make them out to be in the grand scheme of things. tongue.gif

Well, I'd prefer Vdroop over Overshoot any time of the day TBH.

Even if its a .2 Volts Vdroop, your chip would idle at a higher voltage which wouldn't hurt temps as you are idling.

Overshoot is completely opposite. And is only good if all you do is idle. (Low Power Consumption Green Stuff)

You don't set the low point of your swing as the full-load stable, you set your medium to high point. The result is the once bad vBoost is now just a form of C'n'Q.

As opposed to the .2v vDroop where you're now feeding your chip about 1.7v 24/7 just so you can stabilize a 4.8Ghz OC.

Ya no, not going to take the .2v vdroop.
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VDROOP can also limit the amount you can overclock as it forces you to use higher voltages in the BIOS in my case i cannot manually input any voltages and is capped at 1.55... so once i hit that mark i will be maxed out by the board... but you saber and crosshair guys probably dont have those woes smile.gif

Pretty much no one else has those woes, but good to learn more about ASRock's offerings.
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You don't set the low point of your swing as the full-load stable, you set your medium to high point. The result is the once bad vBoost is now just a form of C'n'Q.

Believe me, if it only behaves in a predictable way, I am not going to rant like this. lol

Thing is, it's not. If you take the average, you'll need to set it to 1.512 (hot) arrowheadsmiley.png if you need 1.500 stable point. which could go up to 1.525 (hotter yessir.gif) at least.
Or go low to 1.488 (semi stable)

Still pointing to it being hotter than dialing a full on 1.500 flat. (by the way, it's not really flat. some momentary shift happens which could raise the Vcore to 1.512 split second go back to 1.500 and return a minute after)
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As opposed to the .2v vDroop where you're now feeding your chip about 1.7v 24/7 just so you can stabilize a 4.8Ghz OC

Ya no, not going to take the .2v vdroop.

No issues on a higher Vcore while Idling.. It's not gonna heat up that much (on paper) as it is yes, IDLING.
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VDROOP can also limit the amount you can overclock as it forces you to use higher voltages in the BIOS in my case i cannot manually input any voltages and is capped at 1.55... so once i hit that mark i will be maxed out by the board... but you saber and crosshair guys probably dont have those woes smile.gif

Well it's sad that Asrock capped you guys.
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You don't set the low point of your swing as the full-load stable, you set your medium to high point. The result is the once bad vBoost is now just a form of C'n'Q.

Believe me, if it only behaves in a predictable way, I am not going to rant like this. lol

Thing is, it's not. If you take the average, you'll need to set it to 1.512 (hot) arrowheadsmiley.png if you need 1.500 stable point. which could go up to 1.525 (hotter yessir.gif) at least.
Or go low to 1.488 (semi stable)

Still pointing to it being hotter than dialing a full on 1.500 flat. (by the way, it's not really flat. some momentary shift happens which could raise the Vcore to 1.512 split second go back to 1.500 and return a minute after)
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As opposed to the .2v vDroop where you're now feeding your chip about 1.7v 24/7 just so you can stabilize a 4.8Ghz OC

Ya no, not going to take the .2v vdroop.

No issues on a higher Vcore while Idling.. It's not gonna heat up that much (on paper) as it is yes, IDLING.

If you can not see the problem with feeding a CPU 1.7v 24/7, then you should never ever buy another CPU, because Vishera is the only one that won't die on you in a week for treating it that way. Yes even at idle.

And again, if you can't handle an extra notch of voltage, you can't handle the clock. Back it off.
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If you can not see the problem with feeding a CPU 1.7v 24/7, then you should never ever buy another CPU, because Vishera is the only one that won't die on you in a week for treating it that way. Yes even at idle.

And again, if you can't handle an extra notch of voltage, you can't handle the clock. Back it off.

Well we're drifting way too long long on a question about how much an air cooler could handle on these chips. And I made my point clear right from the beginning, D14=SA for just up to 4.6-4.7 or 1.45-ish Voltage. Wasn't that clear the first time? And I proved enough the effect of a Mobo on the temps.

Anyway, I won't buy a board with a .2 Volt Vdroop. It's just pure idiotic. kookoo.gif Okay? I'm just saying Vdroop is more predictable than what a ud3 r3 does to it's voltages. And yes, I'm sticking to those examples as they are the ones I have experienced. Not gonna talk about SOMETHING I HAVEN'T OWN.
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If you can not see the problem with feeding a CPU 1.7v 24/7, then you should never ever buy another CPU, because Vishera is the only one that won't die on you in a week for treating it that way. Yes even at idle.

And again, if you can't handle an extra notch of voltage, you can't handle the clock. Back it off.

Well we're drifting way too long long on a question about how much an air cooler could handle on these chips. And I made my point clear right from the beginning, D14=SA for just up to 4.6-4.7 or 1.45-ish Voltage. Wasn't that clear the first time? And I proved enough the effect of a Mobo on the temps.

Anyway, I won't buy a board with a .2 Volt Vdroop. It's just pure idiotic. kookoo.gif Okay? I'm just saying Vdroop is more predictable than what a ud3 r3 does to it's voltages. And yes, I'm sticking to those examples as they are the ones I have experienced. Not gonna talk about SOMETHING I HAVEN'T OWN.

Heh... You have no idea how Rev 1.1 LLc worked, do ya? Didn't think so. It's not too different from Rev 3 actually, the differences in Rev 3 were slightly weaker VRMs and the new (and in my opinion, bad) EFI-like BIOS.

So, just a heads up... When someone has over a year and a half of experiance with these chips and every single motherboard that came out between then and now, try to listen. Because not only did I deal with your problems, I beat them. wink.gif
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Heh... You have no idea how Rev 1.1 LLc worked, do ya? Didn't think so. It's not too different from Rev 3 actually, the differences in Rev 3 were slightly weaker VRMs and the new (and in my opinion, bad) EFI-like BIOS.

So, just a heads up... When someone has over a year and a half of experiance with these chips and every single motherboard that came out between then and now, try to listen. Because not only did I deal with your problems, I beat them. wink.gif

I'm not taking away anything from what you have. But to answer your question?

A lot of people has been successful up to more than 5GHz with 1.1. So it tells a lot that 1.1 is a better better board.

How many have done more than 4.8 on a UD3 rev 3? You can count them by hand. And these people will tell you how bad the board is.

Now, have I mentioned 1.1 on any of my claims? NO.. Coz I don't / never owned them.

I'd like you to pick up a ud3 r3 and see what I'm up to..

It's not a challenge for you. I guess you wouldn't anyway knowing I have only mentioned one of the many faults the board has. tongue.gif
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