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It's no surprise, having the mem controller on the CPU is going to make it hotter if you run that faster, especially as it needs more volts on the CPU/NB for higher mem clocks. I got better cinebench scores from it though..........tongue.gif
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It's no surprise, having the mem controller on the CPU is going to make it hotter if you run that faster, especially as it needs more volts on the CPU/NB for higher mem clocks. I got better cinebench scores from it though..........tongue.gif

But how much better? Like 0.04 more points? ;p
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But how much better? Like 0.04 more points? ;p

Its a bit better i can run @4.1 and score as high as 4.4 with higher fsb... Ill post a pic in a bit
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9-11-11-28 @ 1866mhz = 20 seconds slower in superpi 32m than 9-12-11-29 @ 2016 mhz all else being equal @ 4 ghz on the cpu - (gskill cl9 2133 mhz sticks). I didn't pay any attention to temps. Really need to spend some time with it and some of my 6-8-6 1600 mhz mushkins to see if tight timings>clockspeed on the ram .
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Its a bit better i can run @4.1 and score as high as 4.4 with higher fsb... Ill post a pic in a bit



ok so i was a little off.. but thats still a decent jump
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9-11-11-28 @ 1866mhz = 20 seconds slower in superpi 32m than 9-12-11-29 @ 2016 mhz all else being equal @ 4 ghz on the cpu - (gskill cl9 2133 mhz sticks). I didn't pay any attention to temps. Really need to spend some time with it and some of my 6-8-6 1600 mhz mushkins to see if tight timings>clockspeed on the ram .


The timings may be tighter, but they really aren't much tighter than they were at 2016. If it were like 8-10-8/9-26-1t or lower, 1866 would win. The high clocks, yes will win when your timings are nearly the same, but ideally on these chips, your best go is around 7-8-7-20-1t on 1600, or like 8-9-9-22/26-1t on 1866, 9-9-9-26-1t @ 2133 (haven't seen it done yet) maybe, would perform slightly better on higher clocks. At 7-8-7-20-1t, I push near 15.8 ish read/ 12ish write/ 19ish copy @ 1600. I was getting much worse benchmarks at higher clocks with loser timings (couldn't get 1866 very tight.) and I used ripjawsx 2133 sticks.
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ok so i was a little off.. but thats still a decent jump

I did post my benchmarks between high fsb, diff nb/ht settings, and stock fsb high multi (probably 250 pages ago lol). All I saw on a 4.5ghz clock, barely any perf gain, just wasn't worth it.
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I did post my benchmarks between high fsb, diff nb/ht settings, and stock fsb high multi (probably 250 pages ago lol). All I saw on a 4.5ghz clock, barely any perf gain, just wasn't worth it.

i kinda miss my old board now.. because at least then I would be able to play around and see if I could find some crazy way to boost.. in addition it may have been the ram being oc'd that made the biggest difference Im running crucial ballistix 1866 and if i remember right I had them oc'd close to 2133 when i ran that one
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I have a lot to learn as far as memory tweaking goes , it seems like it's harder to get the most out of DDR3 than it was on DDR. PD seems a lot more finicky than the phenoms too.
There seemed to be a sweet spot for my denebs around 1760 mhz @ CL 8 with the ram i had at the time. It's going to take me a while to figure out what this chip likes and exactly what my Ram is capable of.
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But how much better? Like 0.04 more points? ;p

Better is still better! biggrin.gif
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I have a lot to learn as far as memory tweaking goes

Same here. redface.gif And my Sabertooth board has whole raft of settings the likes of which I've never heard of.
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Better is still better! biggrin.gif
Same here. redface.gif And my Sabertooth board has whole raft of settings the likes of which I've never heard of.

Better, at the cost of heat and possibly stability. ;p

The question you should ask is, is it really the fsb that is giving you your gains or the 100/200mhz that is costing you heat and a lil more v your getting above your 200*multi oc. Is it really the fsb that has 4.62 outperforming 4.60 or the 200mhz difference? Not to mention the higher your fsb, and the jumpier your overall clocks will be at post. It may post 4.63 or 4.618, the higher the fsb clock, at least on sabertooth rev1 boards (mine anyway), the more extreme the clock jumpiness is (another reason I shy from fsb cranking).

edit: Not saying fsb cranking isn't viable, it just always comes at a cost, in some cases much less noticeable costs, or within acceptable costs people are willing to compensate for or deal with. In many cases, some find they aren't able to get multi very high and really have no choice but fsb cranking, but that is just the name of the game. I would honestly treat fsb cranking as a fine tune to hit a expected clock against multi, instead of trying to use it entirely for high clock. I am not so sure fsb being high clocked is really where your getting your perf gains. I wasn't seeing it when trying to match 200 vs high fsb trying to match 4.5ghz in tests. Memory timing seemed to be the biggest difference.
Edited by endevite - 11/19/12 at 5:41am
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