Originally Posted by rvaughn
Originally Posted by Red1776
I don't know how some of you can look at the changelof for P95, see all of the 'bug fixes, see that it has been updated to run for IB and SB, not been touched for PD and not at least hold out the possibility that the program would have a problem not getting along with a new processor.
A bug fix can be implemented for and under any set of circumstances that the program might run into problems operating
" fixed bug where P95 hangs when 'turbo is turned off etc or whatever. could be a thousand different scenarios or settings, or a specific chipset combo. I don't know that it is, but the program has been 'bug fixed' a number of times. I don't know how you can be so sure.
I said a few pages back that I am a hardware guy, not a software guy and would not know bad code if it bit me in the ***. But this is a support thread for Vishera owners and if you can demonstrate that P95 can't possibly have any incompatibilities with Vishera, please share them as there are a number of folks here that can get every stress/load program to run except P95 and you would be doing a great service to actually and specifically show why P95 cannot have any problems with the Piledriver architecture . Because as far as I understand it, "bug fixes' and changes (both found in the P95 change log) to the program inherently mean that something was not working correctly with it before the fix was implemented.
I am not trying to be a ***, I would really like to understand this because it has been rattling around this thread since page 5.
If prime95 were the problem, then it wouldn't be stable for anybody running it on an 8320 or 8350. The problem is that it IS stable for some people. Some people have rock-solid prime95 stabilities -- hours and hours of tests with no issues. It isn't stable for others.
The simplest explanation is that differences in prime95 stability are caused by some systems not being as stable as others. If it were an inherent problem with the program or with the CPUs then we'd see the instability all the time. Only certain CPUs on certain MBs with certain settings are failing. I don't care if those settings are sometimes "stock" -- what the heck difference does that make -- there's still an instability
So far, prime95 seems pickier than other stability tests I've run, but that just means it's doing a better job finding the instabilities, IMO.
Prime95 runs a set of mathematical operations. If the same set of operations works on one system, mine for example, and not on a different system, what would explain the behaviour? A system that doesn't get the right answer to a set of mathematical operations isn't working right, IMO. I just don't see this as being subject to debate by reasonable people. If the exact same code is run on two different systems with two different results, then there's a problem with (at least) one of the systems.
Awww, you're one of those people who rates Prime higher then AMD's own testing and binning, aren't you? People like you are so cute, I wish we could put you next to the puppies in the window of pet stores.
In all seriousness, If you had any idea what those CPUs have to go through to be considered good enough to sell, you'd crap yourself. AMD, intel, and nvidia are not in the business of selling things that will just be RMAd or don't work. Plus this is one of the higher end parts, and if something didn't work AMD could lop off a couple cores that were being problematic and sell it as a lower part, free of charge.
Not to mention those same tests were done across multiple Giga and Asus boards, but if you think this is all happening on just one combination of hardware, be my guest and list it.
I also love how you completely ignore Red's argument and just post whatever was on your mind. You'll fit in just fine here.
Originally Posted by nyk20z3
I already have a high end 3770K build but i plan on doing another build with a AMD FX-8350 Vishera just for kicks using this case -
I hope to join you guys soon!
I honestly can not wait to see that. The XB is interesting to me, and I want to see a badass rig made in one. Edited by KyadCK - 11/20/12 at 8:50am