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One of these days they're going to need to add support for AMD APP. If Action can do it for streaming, they can do it too.
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an apology....for what?

Well, you kinda called me a Liar rolleyes.gif
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the FOV is at default.
sgt bilko

never on high with no AA
always ULTRA with no AA

you are really almost making things up as you go along.

And i actually proved you wrong about that so i asked for an apology, i didn't think it was out of line to expect one
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if you could start hwinfo64 after you have joined a 64 player server and make sure game settings are 1080P+high+no motion blur I would really like to see your cpu and gpu useage like the pics I posted.

When i underline and/or put text in bold it means i'm trying to draw your attention to that part in particular

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as far as you providing me the benchamrks only....did you send them to me in an email or did you share in this thread for all to read?

anything I put In the thread (and I put a lot for the amount of time I been posting in this thread) I hope helps anyone that can use it.

Well considering the "discussion" (i use that term loosely) was taking place in this thread i thought i better respond here
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I do appreciate that you did some testing but you did not open up taskmanager performance tab and have gpu-z running so if we can see its pegged.
you said you were gonna do it but I guess you didn't like the results.

Umm, No i didn't, I said i was going to show you that you were wrong and i believe that i did, I get better performance with 2 GPU's than i do with 1.
You also realise that having too many programs monitoring can actually screw up the readings right?
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the max cpu/thread usage is good idea. I will start grabbing that one in hwinfo4 instead of manually picking it like I had been
you can very well see at least one of your cores is almost maxed out just like mine with 1 single card.

I'm assuming you are talking about your rig there because i'm running Crossfire, thought that was apparent and the results for the CPU are the same.
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Red was pointing out to me that some of the less used cores might pickup more usage when adding a vcard to make sli / cfx instead of piling onto the most used core.
I hope hes right.

yes, that is correct
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when you are riding the line of 90% cpu usage on some of the cores well it don't take very much to mike it lag/spike especially if one of those high usage cores get hit with some kind of game info all at once

Well considering i was watching a movie, having Chrome open with about 15 tabs plus having Steam, Origin, Teamspeak and a whole bunch of other junk running i never pegged any of my cores at 100%
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yes its hard to test if what your looking for is a repeatable fps figures.
what is not hard to test is close up explosions to see what they do to that ms per frame and also cpu and gpu spikes
by "runnin and gunnin" aka "yolo" is pretty good way to do it but I take c4 and plant the stuff on walls and step back and look at the walls and then detonate and that usually can reproduce it.

that's why included the frame times and fps instead of GPU-Z, FPS is more important than usage for me.
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one of the best maps for repeatability is operation locker and even operation metro
most of the choke points are easily repeatable and those 2 maps should probably be the testing maps for what we are doing as Caspian boarder and operation firestorm are pretty big out door maps.
on operation firestorm if you blow up some of those gas containers by B and it spills burning fuel onto the ground it really takes a hit on my gpu when its in 1080P ultra no aa
I imagine getting another vcard for sli will help that out a lot.

Look, my 290's aren't made for 1080p, they are a much more powerful card than your 770 and they are meant for a higher resolution, even at 1440p i still get well over 100fps in nearly every game i have.
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the explosions and lots of "sound" going on works the cpu I believe and loading assets / animations w/e works the cpu more and that's where the spikes/lag/drop in fps come from I think.

Sometimes this is just the way the game is and no matter what hardware you are running it can cause unexpected dips.
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I do appreciate any help you provide or anyone else help for that matter.

we are all after the same thing here aren't we?

Not really, I'm here because i think OCN is a great place filled with people who are very helpful and knowledgeable and i like to help out those that want that help.
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google tdbone1 with 8800gts, 5770, 5870, 6870, 9800gtx+ as my name starts to pop up with all those systems in SLI or CFX
I been doing it since the 3dfx monster video cards who owned the "SLI" name until NVidia sued them and took back the "SLI" name and hired some of 3dfx people.
3dfx was sued by NVidia and went out of business but NVidia kept "sli" name as we use it today.
so my 1st sli setup was in 97 about

All that tells me is you had Multi-GPU setups before, doesn't mean you are an expert by any means, I've had 3 different Crossfire rigs but that doesn't mean the same rules apply to Hawaii as they did to RV770 rolleyes.gif
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so when you try to "order" people you should know some people know quite a bit (like I do)

Now this one made me laugh, you think I'm ordering people around? lachen.gif
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ill probably wind up getting another matching gtx 770 next month but not sure if I loose FSAA or if it will introduce transparency problems or what.
used to have overlapping textures in BFBC2 when in sli/cfx and other anomalies.
what the most important thing is though is gameplay
have to have those ms per frame really low during heavy action.

I think i posted to you about 10 pages back about getting some better ram and probably a better PSU before you go for SLI.

You have (arguably) the best board for RAM overclocking but you are running some silly little 1333Mhz sticks on it? doh.gif

But it doesn't matter because you still won't listen.......
 
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Great one Sarge! How'd you kept it cool? smile.gif

I'd like to test my 290 as well but the thing wouldn't work right with my TV monitor! Arrgh

BTW, I remembered him quoting his ram. Theyre 1066 MHz non matching sticks! Lmao
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Great one Sarge! How'd you kept it cool? smile.gif

I'd like to test my 290 as well but the thing wouldn't work right with my TV monitor! Arrgh

BTW, I remembered him quoting his ram. Theyre 1066 MHz non matching sticks! Lmao

My 290's don't actually get that hot unless i'm running them with a decent overclock.

Why wouldn't it work with the TV? HDMI should just be plug and play.

Well he has the specs in his sig as: 2x2GB and 2x1GB 1333, then pairing that ram with a CVF-Z kookoo.gif
 
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It has something to do with the under scanning on AMD GPUs when paired with monitors that don't have the auto detect feature to adapt with signal properties.

The TV has a 1080p native res. And at the bios, the signal goes down to 720p. I have fixed it inside windows but my oc is not loaded since I had the bios reset prior to connecting the 290.

I'll plug in my previous GPU to load the OC, start a fresh install of the OS, and work there. PITA!


refer to topics like this just in case:

Edit: COOL refers to you dealing with him BTW.. biggrin.gif
Edited by mus1mus - 8/20/14 at 3:55am
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I am thoroughly suprised at how fast frozencpu.com processed and shipped my order..12 dollars shipping processed and in carriers hands within 2 hours.. slated for on time delivery tomorrow morning...right at 48 hours from NJ.. never gotten an order that fast from anywhere.. even with rush processing and expensive 2 day shipping costs
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I am thoroughly suprised at how fast frozencpu.com processed and shipped my order..12 dollars shipping processed and in carriers hands within 2 hours.. slated for on time delivery tomorrow morning...right at 48 hours from NJ.. never gotten an order that fast from anywhere.. even with rush processing and expensive 2 day shipping costs

Yes they're very good to deal with , never once had a problem with them. thumb.gif
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SGT Bilko

you are definitely better then me how you grab copy and paste or multi-quote or w/e it is called.

looked nice.


in those quotes that you are miss quoting out of context.

there were many more posts that I made that said the correct in game settings I was doing.

you are grabbing crap this is 20 pages old or w/e

you are picking and chosing like a reporter from the new York times.

GOOD ONE

the very last thing you told me about my mixed match ram is it wouldn't work with my overlocks or whatever.

im not quoting I just remember what ya said.

along the lines...it wont work

well im at 4.8GHz stable with this mix matched ram
different volts
different timings

WORKING

you act all nice and cool in how you quoted me out of contexts again but you are just stirring the pot.

my questions about SLI or CFX with the fx 8320/8350 being a bottleneck are real good

PEOPLE want to know for sure.
Red is doing a Blog or Review on how this "is not the case" with the quad fire in the high performace build hes doing.

what I have STUMBLED upon is a very specific finding of doing just that but with BF4

I believe BF4 and an SLI or CFX (with vcards above my specs (gtx 770 2GB) provide very little GAIN in SLI or CFX.)

Red says this is not the case and showed me that he is no noob with CFX or SLI so im leaning more towards his way in that the FX 83xx series when OC to 4.5GHz is not a bottleneck BUT from what I have found im also guessing it could be.

the more I "research" this on the net the more I keep hearing "gtx 770 sli...don't do it".

I cant wait to read the review.

what I am "thinking" is that when BF4 in a 64 player map is running 1080P Ultra NO AA everything else DEFAULT that a SINGLE GTX 770 gets pretty damn good frame rate and really low ms per frame with my 4.8GHz and 6GB ram and no pagefile
its doing pretty AWESOME
BUT
it will drop fps in a firefight or what I call SPIKE in the ms per frame graph which you can FEEL and see the FPS in top right corner
I want to get rid of that!
if the fx 83xx is not a bottleneck at 4.5GHz and above with DUAL SLI gtx 770 or amd equals which I think are R9 280x?? something like that and above then BF4 will NOT drop anymore or SPIKE correct?

see this is what im gonna find out with Red's help
I play BF4 and all series before that.
DICE worked with AMD specifically to optimize the game for mantle also

I see videos on the net with intel i7 4770K and dual gtx 770 and its jamming
I think 144fps maxed out all the time.
it was late last night and I not sure but I think I find it again....now he had custom settings and quite a few at that so that might come into play as he should have just put it in 1080P ultra and everything default so we could have seen

here is a video that I made with "SHADOWPLAY" that you also quoted me out of context and said I used a 24fps sec video and I clearly had said in my orig post that I made it with my note 3 but was going to do it with shadowplay.

idk its like you got something against me.
I think you gonna try and get me banned because what I have found has been found by other people also.
im in a special position because im stuck at the road where I need to upgrade "something" to get the steady frame rates I want when playing bf4 and im hoping and believe me I REALLY AM! hoping I can just add another gtx 770 instead of selling my cpu and selling my mboard and then having to wait for it all to clear through ebay and then ordering another intel mboard and intel chip and putting money with it to get it.

yea believe me with my CVF-Z quad sli mb I would just love to drop another 770 in it or maybe later on even another and later on another?
get my point?
hope this kick butt mboard isn't useless with more then 1 gpu when the gpu's are gtx 770 or = in amd (for bf4)

here is a new video I made of my system.
I will make a better one if anyone has a request for a certain map.

please watch the video and listen to me if possible.
im not good on the mic but if you look at all my data I have there and there is a lot then maybe you can see my true concern
I have an amd system
I have always had amd system
google my name
tdbone1 5770
tdbone1 5870
tdbone1 6870
tdbone1 955BE
tdbone1 1090T
tdbone1 x2 4200

ok im not an intel fanboy
what I am though is a hardcore bf series player
now that dice has included perfoverlay.drawgraph 1 it makes it easier to find out what exactly causes these spikes
lets figure it out

btw I just watched that video in the link in this post and yea I think It "says" it all when im speaking.
please watch the fps and graph. yellow is cpu and green is gpu
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Not to really get in the middle of what you and the sarge have going. But I told you previously that mixed ram is never thebest in any system will it work? Yes does it work well? NO
As for the CFX/SLI, I have multiple video cards and my FX do not bottleneck them. I benchmark all the time and if I get 50% plus from adding another card there's definately not a bottle neck. If BF4 causes issues it's not the system but a poorly optimized piece of software. Surely you must play more than just this game? Even if the second card didn't help with this title there are others that it would.
Honestly this has been going on way too long and is seriously taking away from the intent of this thread.
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