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Rick Arter

There is a new bios update F12 . I know it is to aid AHCI but it might make a diference .

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3891#bios

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One more thing I'd like to add, it could be you video card running out of VRam as well causing those spikes. I haven't seen results for BF4 but I have for BF3 and in multi player at 1080 it can top over the 2Gb limit of your video card. http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=718118&highlight=vram

thank you for your information and I believe you are right that is why I test with ultra and no AA but it does not do this in high settings which could also be correct

my question that makes it important to this thread has to do with the fx 8320 architecture even @ 4.8GHz

BF4 only represents one of the tests that bring this out.
Red and many others say it does not bottleneck this cpu when going to sli or cfx with 770 and up and probably r9 280x and up (im guessing on that)

what im trying to do is actually find out if it does before I blow $300 on another similar card for sli to make it do "ultra" with all settings at default.

or do I need a different cpu like an intel I7

the video I posted shows the I7 with the gtx 770 at similar frame rates (that's good news so far wouldn't ya say) I mean as far as switching cpu's to get the performance im expecting?

here is the video I made with similar settings
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thank you for your information and I believe you are right that is why I test with ultra and no AA but it does not do this in high settings which could also be correct

my question that makes it important to this thread has to do with the fx 8320 architecture even @ 4.8GHz

BF4 only represents one of the tests that bring this out.
Red and many others say it does not bottleneck this cpu when going to sli or cfx with 770 and up and probably r9 280x and up (im guessing on that)

what im trying to do is actually find out if it does before I blow $300 on another similar card for sli to make it do "ultra" with all settings at default.

or do I need a different cpu like an intel I7

the video I posted shows the I7 with the gtx 770 at similar frame rates (that's good news so far wouldn't ya say) I mean as far as switching cpu's to get the performance im expecting?

here is the video I made with similar settings
Get decent ram and see the numbers fly, gg.
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One more thing I'd like to add, it could be you video card running out of VRam as well causing those spikes. I haven't seen results for BF4 but I have for BF3 and in multi player at 1080 it can top over the 2Gb limit of your video card. http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=718118&highlight=vram

yep. that's where my head was going. The r9-280x is probably a better card for BF4; the gtx 770 might average higher fps (slightly) but i suspect it suffers large lag spikes on large multiplayer maps. If it isn't the 2gb of vram on the 770 then its your 6gb of system ram. one or the other.
 
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One more thing I'd like to add, it could be you video card running out of VRam as well causing those spikes. I haven't seen results for BF4 but I have for BF3 and in multi player at 1080 it can top over the 2Gb limit of your video card. http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=718118&highlight=vram

yep. that's where my head was going. The r9-280x is probably a better card for BF4; the gtx 770 might average higher fps (slightly) but i suspect it suffers large lag spikes on large multiplayer maps. If it isn't the 2gb of vram on the 770 then its your 6gb of system ram. one or the other.
YA and adding another card won't fix that either.
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Get decent ram and see the numbers fly, gg.

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yep. that's where my head was going. The r9-280x is probably a better card for BF4; the gtx 770 might average higher fps (slightly) but i suspect it suffers large lag spikes on large multiplayer maps. If it isn't the 2gb of vram on the 770 then its your 6gb of system ram. one or the other.

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YA and adding another card won't fix that either.

Guise......stop making sense tongue.gif
 
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I picked one of these chips up a few months ago from Micro Center. They had a deal going so I figured why not, good upgrade from the X2 555 I was running.

The problem is when I load it up with OCCT it downclocks CPU.

Everything in the computer is same except CPU and BIOS flash. I didn't test it until now so not sure how long its been like this. I went into BIOS and manually set everything still does it. Disabled turbo also, running stock speed. I have read about this online but, none of it really seems to make sense, hopefully one of you can help. Specs are below in my sig.

Thanks in advance!





After running it again it jumped to 4.0 right before dropping to this. I think it needs more voltage it really drops low.

what is going on with your PSU in the first picture..

do you have a PSu checker? if i'm reading that right.. that is 6 or 8 volt on one of your 12 rails.. that could be a problem right there.
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Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I picked one of these chips up a few months ago from Micro Center. They had a deal going so I figured why not, good upgrade from the X2 555 I was running.

The problem is when I load it up with OCCT it downclocks CPU.

Everything in the computer is same except CPU and BIOS flash. I didn't test it until now so not sure how long its been like this. I went into BIOS and manually set everything still does it. Disabled turbo also, running stock speed. I have read about this online but, none of it really seems to make sense, hopefully one of you can help. Specs are below in my sig.

Thanks in advance!





After running it again it jumped to 4.0 right before dropping to this. I think it needs more voltage it really drops low.

that's typically what happens when a motherboard is either power throttling or temp throttling... looking at the motherboard... it has one temp spiking up to 82C that will cause a temp throttle on any amd motherboard.

there are a lot of motherboards with 4+1 setups that straight up throttle back 8 core fx cpus due to the power requirements; and if the board has no VRM heatsinks it will overheat as well.
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Get decent ram and see the numbers fly, gg.

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yep. that's where my head was going. The r9-280x is probably a better card for BF4; the gtx 770 might average higher fps (slightly) but i suspect it suffers large lag spikes on large multiplayer maps. If it isn't the 2gb of vram on the 770 then its your 6gb of system ram. one or the other.

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YA and adding another card won't fix that either.

Guise......stop making sense tongue.gif

That's what we do isn't it Sarge?? It's one or the other or both, plain and simple. $80 for ram and you finally have a decent matching set, if that doesn't fix it. Save up for anther card . Or just play on high and enjoy yourself. thumb.gif
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thank you for your information and I believe you are right that is why I test with ultra and no AA but it does not do this in high settings which could also be correct

my question that makes it important to this thread has to do with the fx 8320 architecture even @ 4.8GHz

BF4 only represents one of the tests that bring this out.
Red and many others say it does not bottleneck this cpu when going to sli or cfx with 770 and up and probably r9 280x and up (im guessing on that)

what im trying to do is actually find out if it does before I blow $300 on another similar card for sli to make it do "ultra" with all settings at default.

or do I need a different cpu like an intel I7

the video I posted shows the I7 with the gtx 770 at similar frame rates (that's good news so far wouldn't ya say) I mean as far as switching cpu's to get the performance im expecting?

here is the video I made with similar settings Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Ok your problem isn't your CPU (nor the amount of ram..BF4 tops at near 4gb i think.. don't make me post screens biggrin.gif) your problem is the VRAM. MSAA is a very very VRAM intensive.

Look I bought a 770 Inno3d Herculez (which I think are the best Nvidia cards personally that's another topic) tryed it, tryed to max BF max settings I had a spike hit me of 16 fps in one of the naval strike maps, then I started to wonder, what could be wrong.. messed arround the settings, figured that even without MSAA but with Vsync on( i believe, hard to remember to be honest) I would still run out of VRAM and get spikes (you can monitor that with GPU-Z btw, I did and it uses 2.2gb of VRAM at most..) I decided to return the card, I was not very happy, and I realise the 770Gb, despite it's powerful GPU simply lacks VRAM for nowadays games, mind you though I didn't figured right away it was VRAM.

I now have a hd 7950 bought on ebay for roughly 100$.. and it runs much smoother, the min I can get I think is arround 40 (and that's only in very intensive and or poorly optimized/lot of geometry on screen spots such as the pearl market rooftops..) not even below, running mix of mid-high I believe. it is VRAM I guarantee you that 100% if not 1000%, that said 1333 Mhz ram is slow too id go for a 2133 (1866 will do just fine i guess.. altought with my speed at 1:1 I nearly max it), just get the same ram as me mate it cost 80 euros Gskill 2133 Cl9.
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yep. that's where my head was going. The r9-280x is probably a better card for BF4; the gtx 770 might average higher fps (slightly) but i suspect it suffers large lag spikes on large multiplayer maps. If it isn't the 2gb of vram on the 770 then its your 6gb of system ram. one or the other.

Definately VRAM.

Also if you not using pagefile that could certainly be a problem as windows itselfs eats RAM like someone mentioned.

Also one last thing fraps recorded videos aren't very relevant since it will push your system further too, that include your hdd/ssd.
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