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I own a FX-8350 and it's a really good CPU. I noticed 10-20 fps increase from Phenom II x4 955. I checked the temps with Core Temp and it idles at 10C and at load it is 60C. I heard though that the temp sensors on the CPU suck.
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I own a FX-8350 and it's a really good CPU. I noticed 10-20 fps increase from Phenom II x4 955. I checked the temps with Core Temp and it idles at 10C and at load it is 60C. I heard though that the temp sensors on the CPU suck.


If it idles at 10 Celcius you ambient temp must be pretty low. That is about 50 Fahraneheit I do believe. The sensors are very accurate after 40C. mdocod and Damric know this stuff.
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Why are people talking about the temp sensor on the FX chips? FX chips do not have a temperature sensor. The Cpu core temp is calculated.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1128821/amd-temp-information-and-guide
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Why are people talking about the temp sensor on the FX chips? FX chips do not have a temperature sensor. The Cpu core temp is calculated.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1128821/amd-temp-information-and-guide

It is all semantics. The temp is the temp no matter how its read or calculated etc... No one here is claiming to be a hardware engineer.
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It is all semantics. The temp is the temp no matter how its read or calculated etc... No one here is claiming to be a hardware engineer.

OK? your statement makes no sense. I gave you information on how the cpu core temp is calculated. AMD own slides refer to this either accept the bit of truth you were told or ignore it. You don't need to be a engineer to be able to read the information widely available on AMD's own site or a forum such as this one.

You cannot measure the CPU Idle temp on a FX processor to any degree of accuracy either. Best methods would be a thermal probe attached to the cpu with a small section the IHS removed so the cooler can still sit properly. Second method is to monitor the Socket temp, as core idle temp and socket temp are going to be VERY close.
Edited by ebduncan - 8/27/14 at 5:46pm
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As usual he is correct
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OK? your statement makes no sense. I gave you information on how the cpu core temp is calculated. AMD own slides refer to this either accept the bit of truth you were told or ignore it. You don't need to be a engineer to be able to read the information widely available on AMD's own site or a forum such as this one.

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This has been verified by AMD several times, I found numerous placed across the internet that say to pay zero attention to the core temp and to use AMD Overdrive when stress testing. Apparently AMD calculates temperature through "Thermal Margin," which is read backwards to how we normally read computer temperature. Think of it as a margin of error, as the CPU idles the thermal margin will read 50-60c, but under load it reads 25-30c. Apparently this means that under load and water cooled, the CPU itself has a margin of 25 to 30c before it cooks itself. However, the socket temps apparently still have their limit. So from what understand, the CPU under water cooling can handle some pretty extreme loads, but you can still risk frying your board going past 70c on the socket, hence the VRM fans which was what I came here for help on in the first place. Thank you for the post ebduncan!!!
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This has been verified by AMD several times, I found numerous placed across the internet that say to pay zero attention to the core temp and to use AMD Overdrive when stress testing. Apparently AMD calculates temperature through "Thermal Margin," which is read backwards to how we normally read computer temperature. Think of it as a margin of error, as the CPU idles the thermal margin will read 50-60c, but under load it reads 25-30c. Apparently this means that under load and water cooled, the CPU itself has a margin of 25 to 30c before it cooks itself. However, the socket temps apparently still have their limit. So from what understand, the CPU under water cooling can handle some pretty extreme loads, but you can still risk frying your board going past 70c on the socket, hence the VRM fans which was what I came here for help on in the first place. Thank you for the post ebduncan!!!

Thermal Margin has just been recently added to AOD. It was displaying temperatures before the latest update. In that update, they also raised the thermal envelop to 70+ instead of previously followed 60+ on the cores. FYI

It's a feature they copied or at least mimic'd from Core Temp used in Intels.
Edited by mus1mus - 8/27/14 at 6:17pm
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OK finally got the fan over the vrms it wasnt easy and i will have to mod the side panel so it will go back on if it helps but.. heres what i got
shh i know about the dust smile.gif
Edit: so I did some testing it seems on a 10 run very high on ibt it dropped about 6c on socket but I can't seem to get 4.6 stable I have bios set to 1.513 which according to hwinfo64 drops to about 1.336 as a minimum avg of 1.4...I only have two more notches on my vcore settings...my cpu/NB is set to 1.20

If i set my voltage offset to +50mv it keeps voltages closer to bios target but at seemingly any voltage the offset increases socket temp by alot

UPDATE: by stroke of luck i ran across the fact that i had a bios update available... after updating it i had to reset a bunch of settings but it seems that w/e was done did help a little with my vdroop and the voltage doesnt vary as much during heavy load.. however ive noticed the temps are a bit more probably due to higher voltages with less droop down into nearly unstable voltages...getting better and more consistent runs on ibt as well with same settings..

Im thinking i might need a remount... i havent seen any air bubbles in the res or heard any bubbles in the loop however i didnt disassemble the loop i found a way to install it as is when i realized the hoses wouldnt be long enough to do it the way i wanted... my temps seem high to me for the settings and the fans i have hitting the socket and vrms... is it possible that my vrm sink isnt contacting the vrms and causing excess heat to not be removed? heres the temps with the last ibt run



As an aside what happened to the posts that were here earlier...I seen five posts under musimus post about aod now they are gone?
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Got my FX-8350 today, maby i should put it to pc, but i'm too lazy now to do that redface.gif
    
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