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alright so this is what im looking at buying i think it will help take this setup i have to the proper level it should be..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131877&cm_re=asus_sabertooth-_-13-131-877-_-Product
Is rev 2.0 any better than initial and if so what is revised?
and
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147053
I was looking at the cooler master stacker 935 but despite it being called haf series it just seems extremely light in the airflow department... that said the one thing i dont like about the above case is the passthrough style for the usb 3.0 front panel....is there an adapter that would allow me to connect it to the internal header on the mobo? what do you guys think?
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yes itll be as tight as a nun's crack lol which isnt a bad thing tongue.gif

i prefer 1/2 tube for 1/2 barbs and use a decent clamp

I put 3/8" -5/8" tube over 1/2" bitspower barbs (the largest on the market) All it takes is a heat gun and some elbow grease and no clamps necessary.
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This is my very first shot at a stable OC.... cant really do anything interesting until I get some good ram, which is coming tuesday.

Pretty nice temps and voltage I think.

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This, and unless I was a water cooling hobbyist, the raystorm kit is a crappy deal, especially when buying something like a FX 8 core. You could just go with the H220-X(or even less) instead and grab a 4790k with that price difference...would get more performance for your $$$

If you already have the FX chip, the only thing you can do to get more performance per dollar is to upgrade the cooling and not switching to another platform. That has been discussed for quite a while.

It's cool if you don't have one yet and prefers to run your Intel on stock cooler biggrin.gif Once you consider the cost of a decent air cooler, the price difference widens and would almost balance out if not moar than what you can achieve with the FX + 240mm CL. Also worth mentioning that decent Z87 and Z97 boards are still more expensive 990 FX topdogs.
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oh, ok thanks, I did not know distilled water was non conductive, ill use that when I get one, sometime in the future( hope end next month).
might finally get to overclock. thumb.gif

Distilled is non-conductive to a certain degree. Open it up and leave there for a day or two, the state changes.
Discussed by Martin.
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alright so this is what im looking at buying i think it will help take this setup i have to the proper level it should be..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131877&cm_re=asus_sabertooth-_-13-131-877-_-Product
Is rev 2.0 any better than initial and if so what is revised?
and
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147053
I was looking at the cooler master stacker 935 but despite it being called haf series it just seems extremely light in the airflow department... that said the one thing i dont like about the above case is the passthrough style for the usb 3.0 front panel....is there an adapter that would allow me to connect it to the internal header on the mobo? what do you guys think?

No transparent side Window. thinking.gif


Edited by mus1mus - 8/28/14 at 6:43pm
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If you already have the FX chip, the only thing you can do to get more performance per dollar is to upgrade the cooling and not switching to another platform. That has been discussed for quite a while.

It's cool if you don't have one yet and prefers to run your Intel on stock cooler biggrin.gif Once you consider the cost of a decent air cooler, the price difference widens and would almost balance out if not moar than what you can achieve with the FX + 240mm CL. Also worth mentioning that decent Z87 and Z97 boards are still more expensive 990 FX topdogs.

I never said better cooling isn't worth it, I merely meant that theres a point where it can start to cost a lot more than its worth for just a few hundred MHz more. IMHO the H80i is the best bang for the buck cooler for vishera, as it can easily take it to 4.7-4.8Ghz, and even handle a 9590. And no, the 990FX "topdogs" are way more than where you start to see decent Z87 and Z97 boards. What if I said you can max out a 4690k on a board like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157501 ?
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No transparent side Window. thinking.gif
Damn you just made me rethink my case choice AGAIN smile.gif i hadnt looked at that one i checked out the primo but it was a bit more than id like to spend... nice find... ive got some thinking to do smile.gif I could buy me a couple of good fans with the savings to add to help with airflow.. will probably use this case to put old pc in for fiancee to have a smaller case as the ultra case its in is way to large for whats inside and only has spot for 2 fans total
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AIDA also reports correct temperatures. My core is frequently over 64 when I stress test, with the socket hitting 70. Next month getting a Phanteks, then a new case. Sitting here with both side panels off to feed the cooler more air and it still not enough for this H70 to cool the CPU.
what exactly is your point. we could of told you this, as they are reading the same sensors
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mounting large air coolers on the CHVFZ can be a pain FYI the vrm heat sink can get in the way a bit.

take a look at the mounting hardware before buying biggrin.gif

The Z and non-Z are the same boards, the Z just has a few extra's. Think large coolers like the Phanteks should be OK.
no, they really are not, all the way down to the trace layout,

the z is better, but not worth the upgrade going from a non z to a z
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hello's,
if were talking watercooling loops, can you put mineral oil in it instead of water please?
mineral oil is non conductive, sound better than water as no damage due to leaks.

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You would never ever ever want to use mineral oil in a loop. It would perform terribly in flow and heat transport capabilities. Dont even think about it and I'm not going to get into a more detailed explanation.

You can run a mineral oil submerged PC but that's a different ball game.

this
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alright so this is what im looking at buying i think it will help take this setup i have to the proper level it should be..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131877&cm_re=asus_sabertooth-_-13-131-877-_-Product
Is rev 2.0 any better than initial and if so what is revised?
and
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147053
I was looking at the cooler master stacker 935 but despite it being called haf series it just seems extremely light in the airflow department... that said the one thing i dont like about the above case is the passthrough style for the usb 3.0 front panel....is there an adapter that would allow me to connect it to the internal header on the mobo? what do you guys think?
i would recommend the r2, more frills ( that are awesome IE the direct button ) and uefi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPerforations View Post

oh, ok thanks, I did not know distilled water was non conductive, ill use that when I get one, sometime in the future( hope end next month).
might finally get to overclock. thumb.gif

Distilled is non-conductive to a certain degree. Open it up and leave there for a day or two, the state changes.
Discussed by Martin.
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Originally Posted by mus1mus View Post

If you already have the FX chip, the only thing you can do to get more performance per dollar is to upgrade the cooling and not switching to another platform. That has been discussed for quite a while.

It's cool if you don't have one yet and prefers to run your Intel on stock cooler biggrin.gif Once you consider the cost of a decent air cooler, the price difference widens and would almost balance out if not moar than what you can achieve with the FX + 240mm CL. Also worth mentioning that decent Z87 and Z97 boards are still more expensive 990 FX topdogs.

I never said better cooling isn't worth it, I merely meant that theres a point where it can start to cost a lot more than its worth for just a few hundred MHz more. IMHO the H80i is the best bang for the buck cooler for vishera, as it can easily take it to 4.7-4.8Ghz, and even handle a 9590. And no, the 990FX "topdogs" are way more than where you start to see decent Z87 and Z97 boards. What if I said you can max out a 4690k on a board like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157501 ?
i would say intel needs to work on making their chips more resilient >.>
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I never said better cooling isn't worth it, I merely meant that theres a point where it can start to cost a lot more than its worth for just a few hundred MHz more. IMHO the H80i is the best bang for the buck cooler for vishera, as it can easily take it to 4.7-4.8Ghz, and even handle a 9590. And no, the 990FX "topdogs" are way more than where you start to see decent Z87 and Z97 boards. What if I said you can max out a 4690k on a board like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157501 ?

You started with the 4790K. Please stick with it as we're not speaking of an i5 here to prove your performance per dollar point. Even then, a 4690K still costs more than an 8-core FX. If you balance out the board, they will somewhat cost the same. And you know for sure the only way an i5 would beat an Octa-FX is with single threaded apps and benchmarks. tongue.gif

Also note, a decent board will be able to give a workout for the i7. If you intented to include the i5 so you can slim down the pricing, I might as well bring in the UD3 that can fully max out the 6300. biggrin.gif

That Fatality can only give you a single-card PCIe 3.0 at X16 mode, the other at what? PCIe 2.0 at X4 mode headscratch.gif . I don't even see a point on that being decent. When a UD3 can support 2 cards to run at PCIe 2.0 at X16. Who gets the last lachen.gif

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Damn you just made me rethink my case choice AGAIN smile.gif i hadnt looked at that one i checked out the primo but it was a bit more than id like to spend... nice find... ive got some thinking to do smile.gif I could buy me a couple of good fans with the savings to add to help with airflow.. will probably use this case to put old pc in for fiancee to have a smaller case as the ultra case its in is way to large for whats inside and only has spot for 2 fans total

ISHHH GAWD ISHNT IT? yessir.gif
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I never said better cooling isn't worth it, I merely meant that theres a point where it can start to cost a lot more than its worth for just a few hundred MHz more. IMHO the H80i is the best bang for the buck cooler for vishera, as it can easily take it to 4.7-4.8Ghz, and even handle a 9590. And no, the 990FX "topdogs" are way more than where you start to see decent Z87 and Z97 boards. What if I said you can max out a 4690k on a board like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157501 ?

You started with the 4790K. Please stick with it as we're not speaking of an i5 here to prove your performance per dollar point. Even then, a 4690K still costs more than an 8-core FX. If you balance out the board, they will somewhat cost the same. And you know for sure the only way an i5 would beat an Octa-FX is with single threaded apps and benchmarks. tongue.gif

Also note, a decent board will be able to maximize the i7. If you intented to include the i5 so you can slim down the pricing, I might as well bring in the UD3 that can fully max out the 6300. biggrin.gif

That Fatality can only give you a single-card PCIe 3.0 at X16 mode, the other at what? PCIe 2.0 at X4 mode headscratch.gif . I don't even see a point on that being decent. When a UD3 can support 2 cards to run at PCIe 2.0 at X16. Who gets the last lachen.gif

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Damn you just made me rethink my case choice AGAIN smile.gif i hadnt looked at that one i checked out the primo but it was a bit more than id like to spend... nice find... ive got some thinking to do smile.gif I could buy me a couple of good fans with the savings to add to help with airflow.. will probably use this case to put old pc in for fiancee to have a smaller case as the ultra case its in is way to large for whats inside and only has spot for 2 fans total

ISHHH GAWD ISHNT IT? yessir.gif

Intel, because PCI-e 3.0 x8 is faster than 2.0 x16, and they can do it with fewer traces which cost less.

For that particular board though... It's just really bad. It even does the Fatal1ty name shame.
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You started with the 4790K. Please stick with it as we're not speaking of an i5 here to prove your performance per dollar point. Even then, a 4690K still costs more than an 8-core FX. If you balance out the board, they will somewhat cost the same. And you know for sure the only way an i5 would beat an Octa-FX is with single threaded apps and benchmarks. tongue.gif

Also note, a decent board will be able to give a workout for the i7. If you intented to include the i5 so you can slim down the pricing, I might as well bring in the UD3 that can fully max out the 6300. biggrin.gif

That Fatality can only give you a single-card PCIe 3.0 at X16 mode, the other at what? PCIe 2.0 at X4 mode headscratch.gif . I don't even see a point on that being decent. When a UD3 can support 2 cards to run at PCIe 2.0 at X16. Who gets the last lachen.gif :
That was a typo, but that board can easily get a 4790k maxed out(or at least where half decent cooling can bring it). I'm not arguing that Intel = better for the money lol, I'm running a FX 8320 with decent cooling myself. I just said that custom loops usually aren't worth the money, as a custom loop can take a vishera to 4.8-5.2Ghz, which is not much more than a H80i. At that point, you may as well just get the H80i and put more money towards the CPU or another part of the system. Again, I'm not trying to compare Intel and AMD, just talking about low gains for too much money tongue.gif
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