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If the board works out of the box when you aren't monitoring with HWiNFO then it's not a fault with the product.

It was software than you installed that did this, Argue with Asus all you want but there is nothing wrong with your board.

Did you actually read my previous posts about this problem...?

I did, Physics score is lower when you are monitoring the EC sensor with HWiNFO 64 (3rd party program)

When you are not monitoring the scores are higher (normal).

Board is working normally but when you use a 3rd party program to monitor, the score drops.

Did i miss anything?
 
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They are going to solve my problem, one way or another thumb.gif

this far i have had an email from them that i should update the bios and the problem should be solved the dude said. I already have the newest bios that is 2501 and YES i did reset the cmos.

What is that so called PLX chip?

I will try to system restore if possible because most of the time i disable that function in windows.

I need to because the ****ty program has corrupted my Windows installation already...

Shutting off the sensor feels to me like having an dashboard light burning in my car and all i do is turning off the sensor and the problem grows bigger.
Do you know what i am trying to say? People SHOULD complain to

Disabling the sensor is just too easy and i just want to know WHY this problem occurs in the first place. I am an mechanic so i want to know why this problem occurs so there can be a fix done by Asus.
I honestly have no idea why people taking this flaw from one of the biggest MB manufacturers... they SHOULD complain about it so the problem can be fixed. Its not normal to have this issue, would you agree? Obviously i am not the only one with this problem reading though this thread..

bold- generic script of stuff to fix stuff, nothing new.

italics
plx chips are for GPUs nvidia and amd have used forever
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLX_Technology
basically they allow the gpus talk to each other with more lanes then the CPU has
cpu to gpu no diff, gpu to gpu big difference

underline, why is simple. cpu has to ping the chip ( i am sure it is more complicated then that )
it warns you in hwinfo it can cause some slowing
http://www.hwinfo.com/forum/Thread-Asus-EC
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RE: Asus EC
Yes, sometimes it might conflict with ASUS AI SUITE, but on most systems it should work fine. The other negative effect is that sometimes reading from that sensor might cause a higher system load. But I cannot give you an exact advice, only "try and see"...

as to aisuite, it is one of the many reasons i and many others had always said do not use it !
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Hello

Just out of curiosity, I've run this test too, for the first time in my life! I don't even know if I did this properly (but I created a restore point before installing 3D Mark, anyway).

The settings of the o/c profile (4.8 using the multiplier, only) that I have used to run the test can be seen here

The results with HWiNFO64 running. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

The results with HWiNFO64 not running. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Screenshots of CPU-Z Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I do not have AI Suite installed in my system.


It seems that you are right, @hurricane28, there is a decrease in Physics score when HWiNFO = EC sensor enabled, is running, although the combined scores do not have such a big difference. To be honest, I don't know if 2272 is far from 2258, in this benchmark (1st time ever I use it)

I'd like to ask you all : how do you find my score? Is it too low? Is it normal for my system's specifications?

This period I am not a gamer. I do not have any games installed on my computer. Very rarely, like once in every six months I might play a game like Civilization and that's it.

How is my score, please?

Thank you!

Hi again, sorry for being off topic, but can someone reply to me, as well?

Thanks smile.gif
    
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Hello

Just out of curiosity, I've run this test too, for the first time in my life! I don't even know if I did this properly (but I created a restore point before installing 3D Mark, anyway).

The settings of the o/c profile (4.8 using the multiplier, only) that I have used to run the test can be seen here

The results with HWiNFO64 running. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

The results with HWiNFO64 not running. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Screenshots of CPU-Z Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I do not have AI Suite installed in my system.


It seems that you are right, @hurricane28, there is a decrease in Physics score when HWiNFO = EC sensor enabled, is running, although the combined scores do not have such a big difference. To be honest, I don't know if 2272 is far from 2258, in this benchmark (1st time ever I use it)

I'd like to ask you all : how do you find my score? Is it too low? Is it normal for my system's specifications?

This period I am not a gamer. I do not have any games installed on my computer. Very rarely, like once in every six months I might play a game like Civilization and that's it.

How is my score, please?

Thank you!

Hi again, sorry for being off topic, but can someone reply to me, as well?

Thanks smile.gif

9500 is a nice Physics score for 4.8 smile.gif
 
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9500 is a nice Physics score for 4.8 smile.gif

Okay, thank you very much! smile.gif

One last question about this benchmark: why is my total score low? Is it due to my graphics card or am I doing something wrong?
    
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I did, Physics score is lower when you are monitoring the EC sensor with HWiNFO 64 (3rd party program)

When you are not monitoring the scores are higher (normal).

Board is working normally but when you use a 3rd party program to monitor, the score drops.

Did i miss anything?

I totally agree.

You cant blame the hardware when 3rd party software causes problems...

That's just plain wrong.
    
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9500 is a nice Physics score for 4.8 smile.gif

Okay, thank you very much! smile.gif

One last question about this benchmark: why is my total score low? Is it due to my graphics card or am I doing something wrong?

Your graphics score could be higher with a better GPU obviously, Physics is good and Combined is always going to suck for AMD chips as the combined test only uses 4 cores at most.

This is my best so far: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1805629
 
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Here's IBT runs. I ran numerous tests and all came out close to the same. Without EC enabled the scores were higher.

I agree with others here that this is not fault of asus or the motherboard, but the 3rd party software we are running. I will continue to use HWinfo64 with EC enabled to monitor my VRM temps since I don't live by the benchmark. After playing BF4 with both EC enabled and disabled last night I didn't notice any difference in game play or frame rates..

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Yes that's perfectly normal behaviour for a CPU intensive task to score lower when running other software that it needs to communicate with as well. That's why benchers kill every non essential service and even change desktop backgrounds to get higher scores.
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If you want to monitor your vrm temps, use ai suite and disable the warnings for high and low voltages so they don't annoy you. Monitoring the temps isn't even necessary for this board if you have a fan on it. I heard that you can monitor the temps without problems with aida64. This issue is not the boards fault so complaining to Asus won't help.

And during 3dmark your vrms don't heat up very much so just disable ec sensor. You can use it while gaming if you want. I never use it. I use ai suite only for fan xpert. Speedfan makes my pc hang when it starts sometimes and another detection program like hwinfo is running.
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