Originally Posted by KyadCK
They all suck and their feature sets are seriously lacking. I'm a tad spoiled. Spoils (Click to show)
-6 channel analog out-
-Receiver's multi-channel in-
Yamaha HTR-6130 (100w)
-Speaker wire out-
2x Cerwin-Vega E-312s
2x Fisher STV 758s
1x Cerwin-Vega LS-6C
1x Dayton 1200 Sub
If you use Optical out to a proper DAC or other audio setup then they're fine, there's nothing special about digital. If you're pumping out 6-channel analog to a amp... thats different.
I find it funny though how in one post he says the Saber's audio sucks compared to the UD5 but in another says as long as the khz is the same it doesn't matter.
Gotta have the speakers/headphones to make use of it though. Nothing is going to help a $5 logitech headset sound much better.
Well, they're not as bad as they were back in early 2000's that's for sure.
That's a quite spoiled set-up you got there indeed.
Digital is the way to go if you are using them with a proper Sound System set-up if you don't want the on-board analog outputs. You can use DAC. But you'll also be limited by their Dynamic Headroom, SNR, Gain, THD+N, etc. Which are all attributes of their Analog Output side. And will also be limited by your source (Music files for example). Or, like @KyadCK stated, use a proper Sound Card
Digital Side will convert your audio files (that were encoded into ones and zeros!) which is now factored by your source and the bit-depth of conversion the DAC unit has.
So you need to be picky with them as well. (Digital - high bit depth; Analog - a good IC - amp is an indication) Most of the times, I just trust creative for their large repertoire and experience in Digital to Analog processing in the Sound Card business.
I used to have 2 of this back in the 2000's. One is still alive. But in PCI.
Anything with ALC, or AC97 will be kicked in the butt by this thing. Wider Frequency response, Deeper Quality, SNR is just superb during those time. It doesn't even require you to install any special drivers! ( that means no software feature either
I pulled out the audio chip from that one, and is now happily driving my home-made speaker! The thing can put out 15Watts of Audio Power in a sound card!
I am that creative. Yes!
Originally Posted by hurricane28
Well what i meant was that there is an big difference in audio compare tot he UD5.. i did see the option to 192khz on this board but didn't notice an big difference from changing it form the default setting.
also the UD5 has 108db signal to noise ratio so its louder and better.
I have the Audio technica ATH-M50x head phone http://eu.audio-technica.com/en/products/product.asp?catID=5&subID=39&prodID=4596
Not some 5$ dollar Logitech head set
It can be that it needs more power from the amp because it has more ohm, also the drivers are 45mm so maybe they sound better with more power.
Opps.. don't toy around dB values as a common term in Audio..SNR Signal to Noise Ratio
- measured in dB - is a measure or the logarithmic ratio of the output (desired) signal to the output noise signal. The higher the better ( lesser discern-able noise at the output side compared to what you want to hear from the source) but does not mean LOUDERSPL
Sound Pressure Level - also measured in dB - How loud an output a device (speaker) creates. Higher is louder (but not always better)Dynamic Headroom
- also in dB - how much amplification can an AMP give before clipping or introducing it's own noise at the output. (higher is always louder and better for an amp)Sensitivity
- also in dB but with / watt and meter involved - for the speakers; how much SPL it creates with respect to the amplifier power it receives (distant dependent as well). (Higher is more sensitive; but then again, not always better)Amplification factor or GAIN
is also measured in dB - how many times a signal can be amplified by the amplifier. ( 3dB means doubled or 2X )
Your Headphone; no offense, has been tuned to accept signals of much lower amplitude (in terms of Watts) to be able to accept lower amplitude signals (low power) but still produce enough SPL so that it can be sold as a commercial headphone that can be able to be used with Cell Phones, MP3 Players etc. that give out very little amplification power (Watts). Thus more Sensitive
than their Pro counterparts.
They did that by, lowering the impedance of the coils of the driver. Could mean lower number of turns, or bigger (cross-sectional area) wires. And/or maybe using a highly powerful permanent magnets to go along with the speaker winding. (talking about Neodymium). Thus, somewhat also limited the headroom it can give out. Means it will peak out faster than their Professional-Grade Headphones.
Don't get me wrong though. That is a nice headphone. But if you use it with a pro grade equipment pumping out higher Wattages for the headphones made for them, naah, it will be of a lesser product. Will peak (clip) faster, will be more noisy. etc.Edited by mus1mus - 9/10/14 at 7:45pm