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That's not Haswell, that's Sandy Bridge-E. Haswell-E just came out and is the 5820k, 5930k and 5960X.

(It even says so in your screenshot.)

Anyone else reading can decide who they want to believe or not.

Have fun embarrassing yourself.
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That's not Haswell, that's Sandy Bridge-E. Haswell-E just came out and is the 5820k, 5930k and 5960X.

(It even says so in your screenshot.)

Anyone else reading can decide who they want to believe or not.

Have fun embarrassing yourself.

So.. if i interject been running 5.1ghz for 2 years now and ram 2133 cas 8 bout the same time

My 200 buck processor and at the time 60 dollar ram for 8gigs with a 170 dollar board (came in a bundle with other ram i sold for 40 bucks) is still viable and i can game ( mind you i have 2x 280x cause the extra moneys i saved) is still holding well enough over your brand new has well that was how much more for the chip and how much more for the bored.. not saying its crap but i am saying that you see no difference in real world applications.. end of story.

Oh and if you want proof look at my postings and pictures over the past 2 years in this thread (come november itll be 2 year)

Wow you guys have been my family in ocin haha
Edited by F3ERS 2 ASH3S - 9/15/14 at 7:42pm
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@neurotix
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First of all, match it with what? My AMD or Intel setup? (Because my Intel setup absolutely destroys those scores.)

Second of all, what is your point? You posted 5 images of RAM benches from AIDA64 with the CPUNB at the same frequency, 2700mhz. RAM speed was the same too. But in some of them, the CPU is at a different frequency. What does that prove?

Do you understand how this works? In order to prove me wrong, you must do runs with the CPUNB frequency at stock, and then overclocked, and show the difference in RAM speed, as well as cache speed. thumb.gif It needs to be a comparison. What you posted proves nothing. Learn how to benchmark properly.

no i dont, since you cant see the difference between MINOR tweaks like voltage, you will never understand major tweaks like * insert blank here * everything you needed was in THOSE not other.

you threw down the challenge you failed your own challenge, and bring on your intel i will own that too.

and i wont even pull out my haswell Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2715982

i come prepared for introls.

if you think i ment your intel.... laugher.gif

i have only been playing with this since they came out, unlike you i didnt ditch them and kept playing here it is now getting a remodel


unlike you i dont have the issue with BSOD... unless doing benches i was the first to push 1.7v on water on ocn that i can find, i was the one of the first to push my chip as hard as i have and i have yet to kill it, you want to know my credits? check this thread unlike you i have been here since near the beginning and i will stay here for a long time
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Lol. Again, a bunch of disjointed benchmarks that make absolutely no sense and provide no clarity because they are not a simple comparison.

I can spell it out for you: Keep the RAM speed the same. Keep the HTT the same. Keep the CPU frequency the same. Then, run the test with the CPU-NB at stock. Next, run the test again with the CPUNB overclocked. Provide only those two screenshots showing the comparison between the two different CPUNB speeds in the most simple manner.

The above is exactly what I did, and it is irregardless of the RAM speed or the fact that it's single channel, because I am not trying to get the highest RAM bandwidth score and gloat, I am trying to illustrate the difference between RAM bandwidth vs CPU-NB speed. rolleyes.gif

Apparently, you simpletons cannot understand the difference between my benchmarks or why it matters. Have fun getting random BSODs, random mouse cursor lockups, more heat on your chip, and all the other negative consequences of overclocking the CPUNB and HTT link on Vishera. I can't stop you. But I've done enough tests, and enough benching (3 years worth, and top 200 in the US on hwbot: where's your cred?) to know that it doesn't improve performance.

Here's a tip: if you don't OC the CPUNB and HTT, and leave them at stock as AMD recommends, you increase the stability of the system, but more importantly, you increase the available headroom for overclocking the modules on the CPU. Anyone else reading this: this is why you can't get your Vishera stable at 5ghz.

I'm done. I don't have time for one sided conversations, lack of proof, talking to a brick wall, or people that are so stupid that they can't understand a simple comparison.

Consider this my last post; I don't have the time.


You can go anytime you want to. headscratch.gif

Why can't I maintain the same FSB, CPU Freq, RAM, and changing only CPU-NB is very simple; I can only do it at 200 FSB. Not a case for Gigas

Wait later I will make you puke with the results. yessir.gif

Again, Your 1866 is mediocre.
Sammies are not done for 1866.
You can't even post one 5 GHz result from your own Vish. (are you kidding me?)
Your test is as sloppy as you get.

Here's a tip too, not everyone is like you! lachen.gif

And here's a little for you to come later, stock FSB does not mean higher OC headroom for everyone. I will let you taste reality on these chips.

What worked for you will not work for others. Same with what didn't work for you will work for others.
Edited by mus1mus - 9/15/14 at 8:29pm
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I know all chips are not created equal, but is that the lowest vcore you can run at 4.6ghz stable?

Mine runs stable at 4.6ghz on 1.35v.

Haven¨t tested
    
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Haven¨t tested

I was just wondering.. You may be surprised at how little vcore it may take... First thing I did was push it as hard and high of an OC as I could on stock vcore...
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Oh I also forgot to add. I took some readings with my thermal l gun nder the VRM heatsink. And here are the results. I think the fan is doing a good job since the heatsink is showing about 40C or so. To prove the naysayers who said that the fan wasn't doing much in its "along the heatsink" orientation vs a "top down" orientation. I dunno who the naysayer was. But it was a while ago. biggrin.gif

VRM.


Heatsink


@OldBarzoI'll post some screen shots of my BIOS later to give you an idea when I am back from work. I use lots of additional cooling on my board to help with the heat. I have a VRM and a socket fan, I have heatsinks on the Digi+ drivers on the back of the board. And I took the thermal pad off under the VRM heatsink and put MX4 in there. But off hand I am using very high LLC (I can't seen to find the temps improvement that people like vs high. Under IBT temps are the same for me high vs very high LLC. But gaming High llc has lower temps) @ 1.5V FSB multi OC mix. 140% cpu current.
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Yup, Single card physics sucks, no idea why this happens but it does.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1642523

Highest Single Card score so far: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2002510

You have the low combined score bug.

Oh, AMD.

Its not a bug...

It the way the combined test utilizes the CPU, Physics uses logical cores and Combined uses "physical" cores.

Basically the combined test will never use more than 4 cores on an AMD FX 8 core simply because Futuremark doesnt recognize it as such.

It sucks yes vut I seriously doubt Futuremark will ever change it.

And Hurricane? The physics scores were low for that clock due to the fact I was running a single card, if I turn crossfire on then Physics goes up.

Ive provide some benches later for it.

And its NOT PhysX, whoever was thinking that should read it better.
 
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How do you point the gun to the VRM??
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How do you point the gun to the VRM??
sorry I made an error. Not the VRM's but the chokes next to them. The heatsink sort of hangs over the chokes so I can get a reading from the chokes and caps there and sort of guess that they are indicative of VRM temps. (which of course they might not be at all.) but it's certainly better than the 80+C I was getting running fanless at the same clock speed (with more voltage)
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