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Good Dual Towers for Top-Notch AirCooling.

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It should also be noted that these coolers are better than what you currently have. But, they will all suffer to keep these Octa-Cores within 70 C at Voltages that Exceed 1.5V on the Cores.

Clocks are a little misleading as these chips Vary By A Lot On Voltage Requirements for Certain Clocks teaching.gif
Keep Thing Under 70 C on a daily Basis. Spikes are Normal. But a continuous temp over 70 is a NO-NO.

Stress Testing at under 70 with IBT AVX will guarantee you'll never exceed the temp on a daily basis.

These thread follows one simple Rule for AMD FX Chips:

"If You Can Cool It, You Can Clock It" thumb.gif

But.. I didnt ask about temperature tongue.gif I want to know the maximum voltage for my CPU, so I know when to stop.
And 70C is quite high, it's more than AMD's max temp rating (Which is 61.5C) But my CPU isnt even over 50C in load, so..

But again, max voltage, anyone? (I have 1.25v on CPU/NB voltage)
stop worrying about voltage, i push more 24/7 then you ever will be able to
only thing you need to care about is temps
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I seethe FX 8370 being sold now. It has exactly the same specs for stock speed and turbo as the FX-8350. So why is its higher price justified? If it is more highly binned why is the stock speed identival with the FX-8350. My opinion is that AMD is pkaying games here. They say these chips can be overclocked. All the FX chips can be overclocked, yet tess and less of the 8350's can reach 5.0 GHZ even with the best of water cooling. They are creating so mwny variant models tovsqueeze out more revenue, yet lesscand less of 9370 and 9590 can be overclicked above their rated stock speeds of 4.4vand 4.7 ghz. Yet they claik the 9590 isthe most highly binned variant. Can't be true if a lot of them can't reach 5.0 ghz with excellent quality water cooling. My old pathetic 8350 did the same 4.76 GHZ stable as my new FX-9590. That 8350 was sub-par and yet could have been labeled a 9590 by today's standard by AMD. My conclusion is that AMD is ripping us off now as their variants of FX are giving less and less performance and less and less value.

the turbo is whats different, 8350 is .1ghz less turbo, as to the rest, this has and will never change all cpu companies do this, they are a capitalist ( i know you hate that but it is true ) company, they are in the game to make money, you CAN oc them how much is a roll of the dice !
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You would need a bigger PSU for crossfire, and artifacts are on the GPU side of things, Core/Mem clocks are too high/not enough voltage, drivers sometimes and even the odd temp related artifacts.

But yeah, for you fast and easy would be a better GPU, not sure how good your current PSU actually is but i think the only great Cooler Master PSU's are the "V" series although i could be wrong.

34hrs without sleep is starting to take it's toll on me rolleyes.gif
Got damnit, its so confusing to be given 2 different answers on the same question. Tom's Hardware says 650watt will be fine for 270x Xfire, while here, its not enough. Tom's hardware says Negative airpressure is better, here, its Positive.. tongue.gif

Are you absolutely sure that 650watt isnt enough? frown.gif

it may be, only way to know is to try
one warning, GPU perf suffers if starved for power
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I seethe FX 8370 being sold now. It has exactly the same specs for stock speed and turbo as the FX-8350. So why is its higher price justified? If it is more highly binned why is the stock speed identival with the FX-8350. My opinion is that AMD is pkaying games here. They say these chips can be overclocked. All the FX chips can be overclocked, yet tess and less of the 8350's can reach 5.0 GHZ even with the best of water cooling. They are creating so mwny variant models tovsqueeze out more revenue, yet lesscand less of 9370 and 9590 can be overclicked above their rated stock speeds of 4.4vand 4.7 ghz. Yet they claik the 9590 isthe most highly binned variant. Can't be true if a lot of them can't reach 5.0 ghz with excellent quality water cooling. My old pathetic 8350 did the same 4.76 GHZ stable as my new FX-9590. That 8350 was sub-par and yet could have been labeled a 9590 by today's standard by AMD. My conclusion is that AMD is ripping us off now as their variants of FX are giving less and less performance and less and less value.

eh... would you rather 3-4 different stepping of FX-8350?

8370 is going for the EXACT same price that 8350's were when i bought mine.

no clue what you are on about.

par for fx-8350 is 4ghz everything past that is bonus wink.gifthumb.gif
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Voltages? Hmm

If you are concerned about damaging the chip, ask for this question:

"How Many AMD FX Chips Has Been Known To Have Died From Overclocking On This Thread?"
Somewhere between zero and zero.
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But.. I didnt ask about temperature tongue.gif I want to know the maximum voltage for my CPU, so I know when to stop.
And 70C is quite high, it's more than AMD's max temp rating (Which is 61.5C) But my CPU isnt even over 50C in load, so..

But again, max voltage, anyone? (I have 1.25v on CPU/NB voltage)

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That's what he is saying, if you want a limit then i'll give you one, 1.7v and no more than 70c core temp for extended periods of time

the 70c comes from AMD Overdrive (was updated some time ago)

Have fun smile.gif


Ok here is the deal.. i have been running 1.7v for about 2 years now. No degradation at all.. also 70c is max now due to seeing the thermal limit in amd overdrive...

With that being said asus will apways lowball information as technically they are right and dont want to pay rmas and such

Now the biggest thing with fx chips is heat.. you will run out of cooling before you hit thier upper level
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lol, ok.....If you really want then you can do Crossfire but i think you'd be riding the line with it at full power, others are welcome to chime in....I think @Devildog83 was running 270x + 7870 is Crossfire on a Seasonic Platinum 660w PSU so he'd have a better idea than myself.

And yeah, i prefer positive pressure tongue.gif

#therealDevildog83 chiming in. The confusion may be on how much you load your system and do you want to be near the max when you load up your PSU. I ran fine with a 660 platinum but under extreme load I was near max. I recommend a bit higher if you overclock "BUT"... if you have a quality PSU and aren't going to run the system through the ringer 24/7 650w is enough.
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Slightly off topic, but I ordered my Oneplus One yesterday biggrin.gif can't wait until it arrives. My Galaxy Nexus worked well for over 2 years, but it's getting very slow even after a fresh CM11 install.
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Slightly off topic, but I ordered my Oneplus One yesterday biggrin.gif can't wait until it arrives. My Galaxy Nexus worked well for over 2 years, but it's getting very slow even after a fresh CM11 install.

That is a very good phone. With some downsides to those well accepted brands/models.

I dont find CM good tbh. Some custom roms are offering near stock UI but with kernel tweaks to smoothen things up further.

My One M8 is rockin on Sinless. biggrin.gif

Enough of the phones.
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I think you guys were right. I think my CPU-NB voltage was too low. I pushed it up to 1.362V and it seems to be ok now. thumb.gif Thanks guys. I knew I could depend on you guys. tongue.gif
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I think you guys were right. I think my CPU-NB voltage was too low. I pushed it up to 1.362V and it seems to be ok now. thumb.gif Thanks guys. I knew I could depend on you guys. tongue.gif

yup, thats what mine is normally set too if not more biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Alastair View Post

I think you guys were right. I think my CPU-NB voltage was too low. I pushed it up to 1.362V and it seems to be ok now. thumb.gif Thanks guys. I knew I could depend on you guys. tongue.gif

yup, thats what mine is normally set too if not more biggrin.gif
And that is for about 2600MHz. To be exact 2580Mhz. What is yours at?
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GHOST rev 3.1
(28 items)
 
THINGY (DEAD)
(14 items)
 
Rura Penthe
(12 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8370 @ 4.95GHz 1.5V 2700MHz NB/3000MHz HTT ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 2x Sapphire R9-Fury 3840 Corsair Vengeance 2133 4x4GB @ 2000 9-9-10-27 1CR 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 850 PRO 1TB WD Blue 500GB WD Blue 1 TB Samsung Spinpoint HD502HI 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XSPC D5 Bay Res 3x CoolerMaster Storm Force 200's 2x EK-FC Fury X fullcovers EK-FC Terminal Dual Parallel 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
2x EK-FC Fury X Backplates XSPC Raystorm CPU Block EKWB Coolstream CE280 EKWB Coolstream PE360 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
3x CoolerMaster Jetflo's 120mm 6 Corsair ML140's  Laing D5 Vario Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG E2341V Roccat Ryos MK Pro Antec High Current Pro Platinum 1300W NZXT Phantom 820 Black 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Mionix Naos 7000 Mionix Alioth GX Gaming SW-G2.1 3000 Kingston Hyper X Cloud Core 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon 2 X4 645 MSI 990FXA-GD65 2x ATI 5770 1GB  Corsair Vengeance LP 8Gb (4Gb X2) 1640Mhz 9-8-7... 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung HD502HI and Samsung HD502IJ LG DVD-RW CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO Windows 7 home premium 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG E2341V Microsoft Wired 600 FSP ATX 700-82GHN Aerocool PGS-V series VX-9 Pro Battle Edition 
MouseAudio
Verbatim Rapier V2 Creative SBS 370 
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Intel Celeron G1840 MSI Z97-Guard Pro Gigabyte RX580 Gaming 4G Gigabyte RX570 Gaming 4G 
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XFX RX480 reference edition 8G Gigabyte RX570 Gaming 4g Gigabyte RX570 Gaming 4G G-Skill Ares F3-1600C9D 
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Samsung 750 Evo 120GB Stock  Windows 10 Pro  Gigabyte XP1200M 
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