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Guys, it has been believed that CPU-NB Voltage is unknown in Windows right?

Look at this:





To show: Run Stability Test > Preferences > Voltages > Select one of the drop down > Normalize the Graph to 3V to view clearly tongue.gif


post #40522 of 67694
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Guys, it has been believed that CPU-NB Voltage is unknown in Windows right? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Look at this:





To show: Run Stability Test > Preferences > Voltages > Select one of the drop down > Normalize the Graph to 3V to view clearly tongue.gif



eh... whut?

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Lol @ Flail... you just p'eeed all over mus1mus' parade!

Don't worry mus1mus, I'm always the one who get's over enthused by my own findings / discoveries.

Edit: forgot to post. ha
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How do people get their 8350's to 5ghz? I'm really struggling to get 4.9 stable in IBT and it's driving me insane, I cant put anymore volts into the CPU they're already at 1.648v with temps hitting 68c and thats at 4.8 atm?
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How do people get their 8350's to 5ghz? I'm really struggling to get 4.9 stable in IBT and it's driving me insane, I cant put anymore volts into the CPU they're already at 1.648v with temps hitting 68c and thats at 4.8 atm?

Not all chips are the same. Some chips simply can't do it. Some stop at 4.7-4.8 no matter how much voltage you give. It's the silicon lottery.
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How do people get their 8350's to 5ghz? I'm really struggling to get 4.9 stable in IBT and it's driving me insane, I cant put anymore volts into the CPU they're already at 1.648v with temps hitting 68c and thats at 4.8 atm?


Undervolter said it well. Also if you'd like some opinions it helps to put up screens of you bios settings. These are tricky chips. That's a lot of volts your pushing. The new 8370e seem to have good results tho.
post #40527 of 67694
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Originally Posted by Benjiw View Post

How do people get their 8350's to 5ghz? I'm really struggling to get 4.9 stable in IBT and it's driving me insane, I cant put anymore volts into the CPU they're already at 1.648v with temps hitting 68c and thats at 4.8 atm?
It also depends on your motherboard. As I see you have a UD5 which should not be a limiting factor. HOWEVER your cooling is. You stand almost NO CHANCE of getting an FX-8350 stable at 4.9GHz with a dual tower air cooler. The chips are just to hot. Coolers like the Phantec's you have top out at 4.7GHz or at whatever clockspeed you can reach with 1.5V. You need a 240mm CLC AT LEAST in order to get an FX octo stable at 5GHz. Sorry bro. Settle for 4.8GHz and leave it at that.
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It also depends on your motherboard. As I see you have a UD5 which should not be a limiting factor. HOWEVER your cooling is. You stand almost NO CHANCE of getting an FX-8350 stable at 4.9GHz with a dual tower air cooler. The chips are just to hot. Coolers like the Phantec's you have top out at 4.7GHz or at whatever clockspeed you can reach with 1.5V. You need a 240mm CLC AT LEAST in order to get an FX octo stable at 5GHz. Sorry bro. Settle for 4.8GHz and leave it at that.
Sorry forgot to update that rig information, I have a 120mm black ice SR1 and a XSPC 240 hooked up to a dinky little EK DCP 2.2 dual bay combo and an EK AMD LTX. But none of it matters now as my PSU just crapped out and now it won't switch back on even with everything disconnected and the jumper for leak testing connected. I don't know if my messing around with voltages has caused it or not but my PC has been acting weird for a while like things not loading correctly on boot up (mouse, keyboard, usb drivers etc) sometimes when I booted up the pc my keyboard would flash then have a rave when I pressed keys (backlit) even before I started playing with OC'ing the 8350.

I have it all plumbed into a surge protector but I'm worried it might have taken something out with it now. There is no smell of burning anywhere, there was no smoke, the PSU has been loud for a while, I planned on taking the fan out and swapping it for a quieter one but glad I didn't know as it's within warranty. Do you reckon my volts have popped the PSU or do those symptoms sound like a ready to fail PSU?
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Originally Posted by Benjiw View Post

How do people get their 8350's to 5ghz? I'm really struggling to get 4.9 stable in IBT and it's driving me insane, I cant put anymore volts into the CPU they're already at 1.648v with temps hitting 68c and thats at 4.8 atm?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alastair View Post

It also depends on your motherboard. As I see you have a UD5 which should not be a limiting factor. HOWEVER your cooling is. You stand almost NO CHANCE of getting an FX-8350 stable at 4.9GHz with a dual tower air cooler. The chips are just to hot. Coolers like the Phantec's you have top out at 4.7GHz or at whatever clockspeed you can reach with 1.5V. You need a 240mm CLC AT LEAST in order to get an FX octo stable at 5GHz. Sorry bro. Settle for 4.8GHz and leave it at that.

^this, heat = resistance, resistance = more volts needed to push for higher clocks = more heat,

So in short you hit a limit that you are just getting too hot that there is too much resistance caused by heat that is not getting dissipated, which in turn cause the instability

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Not all chips are the same. Some chips simply can't do it. Some stop at 4.7-4.8 no matter how much voltage you give. It's the silicon lottery.

Although this is true very few are actually that bad we had this discussion a couple pages back
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Undervolter said it well. Also if you'd like some opinions it helps to put up screens of you bios settings. These are tricky chips. That's a lot of volts your pushing. The new 8370e seem to have good results tho.

Alastair said it the best, yes if we say some screen shots as well as temp reading including core we could help.. but plain and simple, for the cooling, thats about the best thats going to be
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Sorry forgot to update that rig information, I have a 120mm black ice SR1 and a XSPC 240 hooked up to a dinky little EK DCP 2.2 dual bay combo and an EK AMD LTX. But none of it matters now as my PSU just crapped out and now it won't switch back on even with everything disconnected and the jumper for leak testing connected. I don't know if my messing around with voltages has caused it or not but my PC has been acting weird for a while like things not loading correctly on boot up (mouse, keyboard, usb drivers etc) sometimes when I booted up the pc my keyboard would flash then have a rave when I pressed keys (backlit) even before I started playing with OC'ing the 8350.

I have it all plumbed into a surge protector but I'm worried it might have taken something out with it now. There is no smell of burning anywhere, there was no smoke, the PSU has been loud for a while, I planned on taking the fan out and swapping it for a quieter one but glad I didn't know as it's within warranty. Do you reckon my volts have popped the PSU or do those symptoms sound like a ready to fail PSU?

What power supply do you have?
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