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Its not like that, the GTX 780 was the best card for a couple of months almost a year when AMD came up with the R9290x and it supposed to be an Titan killer witch obviously wasn't

Nvidia already had their card and came up with the GTX 780 Ti and is still one of the best cards out there. with maxwell they did not have to focus on performance because they already have the best card, instead they focused on efficiency and low power and they succeeded in that one for sure.

Like i said, its impressive that the GTX 970 has only a bus of 256 and only pulls 150 watts and pulling these scores, you simple have to agree with that otherwise you are in denial IMO.

AMD focused on larger res screens as that is future proof, Im not on either side, I am just pointing out why I say why I say it.
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all I have to say is barely and you are still comparing a year old card to a brand new one, the 780 barely came out before the 290x and the 290 wreaked havoc in regards to benches, you are talking minimal differences in real world applicatioon

Its not like that, the GTX 780 was the best card for a couple of months almost a year when AMD came up with the R9290x and it supposed to be an Titan killer witch obviously wasn't

Nvidia already had their card and came up with the GTX 780 Ti and is still one of the best cards out there. with maxwell they did not have to focus on performance because they already have the best card, instead they focused on efficiency and low power and they succeeded in that one for sure.

Like i said, its impressive that the GTX 970 has only a bus of 256 and only pulls 150 watts and pulling these scores, you simple have to agree with that otherwise you are in denial IMO.

you are delusional if you think your card is only pulling 150 watts, does it have more then a 6 pin power connector? yes.. it draws more then 150W. do you have a Killa watt?

gtx 780 released - May 23, 2013

R9 290x relased - oct 23, 2013

5 months.

and the 290x does beat a titan thumb.gif

when you start looking at overclock results rather then stock benches from reviews.

I can tell you first hand, real world difference between 780 ti and 290x is next to nothing. they trade blows rather equally.

at resolutions that impress me, the 970 falls behind, it is still 780 ti, 290x and the 980 in the top three.

Don't get me wrong I'm not down playing your card it seems to score nice in canned benches and it is one heck of a boost from 660ti,
but i will mirror what others have said, when you are already at this performance level, the very minor power saving (we are on OCN ) since wall will be balls to the wall
is not worth the initial cost of switching, It will be quite awhile before last years cards will become obsolete
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1) technically there's no proof you've been at 1.7v for 2 years because there's no way to prove that. it's just words on a page with a screenshot or two that can be undone at will. unless you have a Prime95 screenshot if 1.7v being run for 2 years ...

2) cooling doesn't effect maximum voltage as long as it's efficient enough to keep it under max temps. electromigration happens roughly >1.55v on these chips period - air, water, or pudding cooled.

If you don't think 1.7v is hurting your chip you're delusional, but the people that think bad things won't happen at 1.54v and terrible things happen at 1.56v are daft too.

Problem is, most of the time people don't replace CPUs when they die, they replace them when they're out dated ... so to a point it really doesn't matter what voltage you put through 'em.

I'd be more worried about my VRMs with my CPU @ 1.7v

Heres the deal.. these vish chips are incredibly strong against voltage as long as they are cooled.

Dont be that guy and by all means that post was annoying
What
How long have you had a pd chip? What have you done to it..

You know i had 1.8v pumped into my chip.. all this time no degradation at all..

My vrms are cooled with an active 80mm 3000rpm fan

Wheres your proof?
Proof is in the pudding. If you want zero damage to your chip then please feel free to leave it in the box. The moment you power it on it degrades.


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its obvious that he just so happens to pop in and wants to start anything, so it appears that he is just wanting attention because mommy took him off the support,


notice how he denies everything then provides nothing that actually supports or contributes to the thread
:soap:

its not that your overclocks or scores are bad, i remember when you first got in to this thread that you you had all of these claims and we had to fight with you to stop posting them cause they where leading people down the wrong path as it was not helping new comers overclock.. Like I said you have gotten better than that.

As for the GPU, GLAD you are happy, the only reason why I posted so bluntly is that the wording used, to most of the world was construed as being that the 970 as brand new it is the top notch card that beats all AMD, and so on, I said what I said to get others also talking about it and proving that hey, your brand new card is still getting beat by a year old card.

again I am glad yo uare happy with your purchase however the way you say things and come across is definately looks like you want to be the top by just buying things. if that is your prerogative then fine, just be prepared for people like me to question and be blunt about it.

I do call it out and say it how it is, Its extremely funny how I get called a troll when the entire time for over a year I have been saying the same thing and been proven right when I say it. I know that I don't know everything however when I am wrong someone chimes in we discuss it and we learn things..

So in conclusion, we have a troll today, which I am now ignoring as the pook as not contributed anything beneficial to this thread, you,well Hurricane you seem like a good person however I still opt to put the facts down instead of the let half information lead peeple astray

and your little rolleys smiley is what made me post what I posted. if you don't want a reaction that is negative then don't instigate one

2cents.gif

alright, alright i get your point.

Still i think its a matter of how you interpret my posts because the enthusiasm is written all over it.

According to benchmarks it beats the R9 290X. Look at these benchmarks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vuh132EsuA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNiS3KWtdXA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syYHYOb0tvk


I get the same results in the benchmarks shown, i played metro 2033 and last light on it and as you can see i get the same scores as the benchmarks.

Its not bashing on AMD but i am not impressed with them because they have an 512 memory bus and pulling a silly amount of watts while my 970 only has half of the memory bus and draws more than half the power and have better performance.

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Its not like that, the GTX 780 was the best card for a couple of months almost a year when AMD came up with the R9290x and it supposed to be an Titan killer witch obviously wasn't

Nvidia already had their card and came up with the GTX 780 Ti and is still one of the best cards out there. with maxwell they did not have to focus on performance because they already have the best card, instead they focused on efficiency and low power and they succeeded in that one for sure.

Like i said, its impressive that the GTX 970 has only a bus of 256 and only pulls 150 watts and pulling these scores, you simple have to agree with that otherwise you are in denial IMO.

AMD focused on larger res screens as that is future proof, Im not on either side, I am just pointing out why I say why I say it.

teaching.gif

Add to the bench marks. I can cherry pick benches too
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where does it say i'm refering to F3ERS?
mmhmm
Have you read this thread since conception? kuz it seems like you are popping in here causing trouble because you are bored.

You've obviously not been in many real debates, have you?
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you are delusional if you think your card is only pulling 150 watts, does it have more then a 6 pin power connector? yes.. it draws more then 150W. do you have a Killa watt?

gtx 780 released - May 23, 2013

R9 290x relased - oct 23, 2013

5 months.

and the 290x does beat a titan thumb.gif

when you start looking at overclock results rather then stock benches from reviews.

I can tell you first hand, real world difference between 780 ti and 290x is next to nothing. they trade blows rather equally.

at resolutions that impress me, the 970 falls behind, it is still 780 ti, 290x and the 980 in the top three.

Don't get me wrong I'm not down playing your card it seems to score nice in canned benches and it is one heck of a boost from 660ti,
but i will mirror what others have said, when you are already at this performance level, the very minor power saving (we are on OCN ) since wall will be balls to the wall
is not worth the initial cost of switching, It will be quite awhile before last years cards will become obsolete

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Proof is in the pudding. If you want zero damage to your chip then please feel free to leave it in the box. The moment you power it on it degrades.

teaching.gif

Add to the bench marks. I can cherry pick benches too

Don't be so harsh on him.
The man just seems to try to justify his buy so hard.

Have to agree on the points though.
Power consumption is nowhere near 150watts. If I remember correctly he has an msi 970 which has an 8-pin and an 6-pin. That is 150+75 watts on the leads, plus the 75 watts coming out of the pci-e slot.
Total consumption 150? Yea, right.

And 512-bits interface pwns at higher res. indeed.
    
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Proof is in the pudding. If you want zero damage to your chip then please feel free to leave it in the box. The moment you power it on it degrades.

teaching.gif

Add to the bench marks. I can cherry pick benches too

I did an benchmark and no one commented on it because it seems they are surprised i guess..
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I'd go Gskill, but i'm more familiar with the brand, shipping is free on them, the adatas will likely cost the same after shipping etc.
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I did an benchmark and no one commented on it because it seems they are surprised i guess..

Don't be so full of yourself. tongue.gif

I didn't even bother to look actually.
This is the thread about Vishera's after all.


I think I will settle with this, system feels the most responsive this way.
    
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Proof is in the pudding. If you want zero damage to your chip then please feel free to leave it in the box. The moment you power it on it degrades.

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Add to the bench marks. I can cherry pick benches too

I did an benchmark and no one commented on it because it seems they are surprised i guess..

Run it again but without PhysX and ill re-install it over the weekend.

Also :http://www.overclock.net/t/1516661/gtx-9xx-vs-gtx-7xx-vs-gtx-titan-vs-r9-2xx-bench-off-thread/0_50

That should get your benching itch sorted
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Run it again but without PhysX and ill re-install it over the weekend.

Also :http://www.overclock.net/t/1516661/gtx-9xx-vs-gtx-7xx-vs-gtx-titan-vs-r9-2xx-bench-off-thread/0_50

That should get your benching itch sorted

Good post.
Will give us some more breathing room here. biggrin.gif
    
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