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What's that I hear? Is it 5.0Ghz? I think it is. The 540 case will help so much when it comes to socket cooling too, I'll stick a fan on the backside and we'll be well away.

Fan on the back of the socket is good idea, it has helped in many (although not all) cases, since the air tends to stagnate behind the motherboard in most cases.

Sorry for not being able to give further advice, but i am only a once in a year overclocker, the rest of the time, i undervolt and have never attempted to go past 4.5Ghz on my own FX.
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What's that I hear? Is it 5.0Ghz? I think it is. The 540 case will help so much when it comes to socket cooling too, I'll stick a fan on the backside and we'll be well away.

Right, while I now busy myself pushing the CPU a bit any further ideas on the RAM greatly appreciated! Can I / should I push the CPU/NB to see if it stabilizes things?

Joining in a bit late, but how long did you run that blend test? In the shown screen shot.
Temps look pretty good to me.

About upping the cpu-nb.
Personally I think it is already way up high...
But then again, maybe Fears can give you better info on that one.

As far as I know you don't want the cpu-nb higher then the vcore.

And guys. What about that huge difference between low and high values of his cpu-nb voltage?

I don't know if I missed it. But I saw nobody tell m00ter that it isn't the amount of ram but the 4 sticks at that frequency that gives the stress.
If you did have 2x8gb you'd be good to go.



Edit:

Is it true?
I've heard that amd changed the max core temp a couple of times the last few weeks.
Can anybody give me some insight on this....
How come it suddenly is safe to go to 70 instead of 62c?
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Here's my temps following the first round of Prime, so about 10mins of solid thrashing (Blend....). This is with the ram at 2133Mhz, to clarify.

Is this the bit where you guys go "Oh my, he's frying that!" or do you err towards "Crumbs, I reckon he can push 5.0Ghz you know!".

Sorry, I get ahead of myself. Let's see if the RAM problem can be resolved first. If I have the temp headroom I'm happy to push it. Even more so when I get the Carbide 540 at the weekend!

And you thought Tintin wasn't a gamer, eh? He was once invited to be a codies beta tester but his boss wouldn't let him have the time off frown.gif He'd have been one of the first to play GRID Autosport if he'd made it.

(tip for anyone playing GRID Auto with eyefinity + crossfire.... force DX10 in hardware settings, no more freezing/crashing!)

try bumping Vcore up a notch..

you VDDA is rather high.. try 2.58ish V

i'd bump both Nb and HT up to 1.25v
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What's that I hear? Is it 5.0Ghz? I think it is. The 540 case will help so much when it comes to socket cooling too, I'll stick a fan on the backside and we'll be well away.

Right, while I now busy myself pushing the CPU a bit any further ideas on the RAM greatly appreciated! Can I / should I push the CPU/NB to see if it stabilizes things?

It's all about the cooling.

A fan on the back to cool the back of the socket and the back of the VRM,s
fan blowing onto rear of mobo to cool socket and rear of vrms

Fans on the VRM s and the Northbridge cooler , good air flow and all the rest.
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@Alastair
Thanks for the BIOS screen shots. Tried with your settings as a test start, but system froze needing a reboot. Have managed with a lot of trial and error using them as a basis
to get CPU clocked @4.729 stable on IBT/AVX standard settings, but VRM temps are high @ up to 66 although I have a 140mm fan blowing on them.
Want to try with high but am fearful of the temps rising too high.


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What's that I hear? Is it 5.0Ghz? I think it is. The 540 case will help so much when it comes to socket cooling too, I'll stick a fan on the backside and we'll be well away.

Right, while I now busy myself pushing the CPU a bit any further ideas on the RAM greatly appreciated! Can I / should I push the CPU/NB to see if it stabilizes things?
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Joining in a bit late, but how long did you run that blend test? In the shown screen shot.
Temps look pretty good to me.

About upping the cpu-nb.
Personally I think it is already way up high...
But then again, maybe Fears can give you better info on that one.

As far as I know you don't want the cpu-nb higher then the vcore.

And guys. What about that huge difference between low and high values of his cpu-nb voltage?

I don't know if I missed it. But I saw nobody tell m00ter that it isn't the amount of ram but the 4 sticks at that frequency that gives the stress.
If you did have 2x8gb you'd be good to go.



Edit:

Is it true?
I've heard that amd changed the max core temp a couple of times the last few weeks.
Can anybody give me some insight on this....
How come it suddenly is safe to go to 70 instead of 62c?

Ok so the CPU/nb needs to be toned down, since you have already set a higher set voltage, drop your LLC for the CPU/nb down a notch, I rarely go over 1.45 however I also do only run 2 sticks.. but I have seen this and delt with it on the side so mainly this issue with the RAM is going to result in you needing to overclock by FSB a little

So I say drop down the RAM divider by 1
so you have it at 2133 then up the FSB till it says 2400
keep in mind when you up the FSB it will clock everything else, you will want to drop your CPU/NB divider as well as your HT divider.

Keep the PCIe clock a t 100 (that is a tricky one to OC FYI)

next you may want to check the voltage that you have for the vDDR, if you up this by .2-.3v it may actually help you.

I have experienced a lot as I was running 1866 cas 9 ram at 2400 cas 9 but dropped it down to cas 8 2133, it put a lot of stress on the IMC and caused me to learn a lot about it.

Another thing that you may want to check into is that on another profile where you have the CPU at stock, then set overclock setting to D.O.C.P. to 2400 RAM and check to see if that works.. (keeping everything on stock other than what the board wants to overclock, keep in mind the settings that you need for your other voltages for your clocks.) once you have everything stock and the RAM at 2400 you will then be able to fully isolate the root cause and get it stable to work 2400.. once it becomes stable you will just need to modify the other multipliers to set to the clocks that you had set,

Set the voltages, and after all of that you should be good to go at 4.8 from there. once you have that solid then you will be able to proceed to thee 5.0+

This is complete and is the best advice you will be able to follow at this moment in figuring this issue out.
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@Alastair
Thanks for the BIOS screen shots. Tried with your settings as a test start, but system froze needing a reboot. Have managed with a lot of trial and error using them as a basis
to get CPU clocked @4.729 stable on IBT/AVX standard settings, but VRM temps are high @ up to 66 although I have a 140mm fan blowing on them.
Want to try with high but am fearful of the temps rising too high.


Oldbarzo

66c on the vrm is not that high.

May I ask why you have the ram timings that loose?
It's kinda horrible for only 1600mhz. Should be around cl9 normally.

Can you post shots of your bios settings, if you haven't already?
    
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@Alastair
Thanks for the BIOS screen shots. Tried with your settings as a test start, but system froze needing a reboot. Have managed with a lot of trial and error using them as a basis
to get CPU clocked @4.729 stable on IBT/AVX standard settings, but VRM temps are high @ up to 66 although I have a 140mm fan blowing on them.
Want to try with high but am fearful of the temps rising too high.


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66c on the vrm is not that high.

May I ask why you have the ram timings that loose?
It's kinda horrible for only 1600mhz. Should be around cl9 normally.

Can you post shots of your bios settings, if you haven't already?

Yeah those timings are completely terrible. heck I have 2400 RAM that runs at almost that. What is the kit that you have.

also Standard IBT AVX does not stress hard enough, you need to use at least very high for any type of stress.
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I don't know why I didn't join in the fun earlier tbh, you all seem very nice etc biggrin.gif

Ok, so I got carried away a little. One thing at a time TinTin, one thing at a time....

CPU/NB voltage back at 1.35 - seems happy. Ramming more voltage here doesn't seem to help, and it does seem to hinder.

I've also now set NB & NB HT at 1.25v as per advice, and bought VDDA down a little too.

I knew getting 4 sticks was a bad idea, but they were QVL and cheap, so I thought why not? Now I know. I'll look out for some nice 2 x 8GB sticks and sell the current ones on me thinks, if it'll make life easier and place less stress on the system with the same result I'm all for it.

Going to call it a night now, but I'll go back to FSB overclocking shortly. Then I'll get 2 x 8GB in there and see if we can find a nice happy 4.8.

Then I'm going for the 5.0. I can taste it....
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I don't know why I didn't join in the fun earlier tbh, you all seem very nice etc biggrin.gif

Ok, so I got carried away a little. One thing at a time TinTin, one thing at a time....

CPU/NB voltage back at 1.35 - seems happy. Ramming more voltage here doesn't seem to help, and it does seem to hinder.

I've also now set NB & NB HT at 1.25v as per advice, and bought VDDA down a little too.

I knew getting 4 sticks was a bad idea, but they were QVL and cheap, so I thought why not? Now I know. I'll look out for some nice 2 x 8GB sticks and sell the current ones on me thinks, if it'll make life easier and place less stress on the system with the same result I'm all for it.

Going to call it a night now, but I'll go back to FSB overclocking shortly. Then I'll get 2 x 8GB in there and see if we can find a nice happy 4.8.

Then I'm going for the 5.0. I can taste it....

Try my suggestion first, you should be able to do it.. just seems that its one little thing throwing it off, with ram its a hard thing to pinpoint until you find it

like the last place I check ... tongue.gif
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phenom II x6 1100T MSI 990FXA-GD65 GTX 460 GTX 460 
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Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer 8GB (2 x 4GB)... Samsung SSD 830  LG Blueray Coolermaster N520 
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