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I've had no problems with running my 8320 at 4.2 on big compiles.I have a msi 970a-g46 mb, works fine. I'd bet its a bad power supply, VRM's can only accomodate for so much voltage swing.

i should add HIGH oc's although theres been 1-2 that got up to 5ghz on the GD80.. but its fine line that is tempting on the voltage threshold in order to counteract the vDroop and the that only seems to get worse the more voltage that you push.. Im saying in comparision for cheaper price the UD3 oc's well compared to the GD65 and the UD3 is 20 bucks cheaper.. The GD80 is the same price as the UD5 and depending on the deal Sabers and M599's both have been confirmed to be better OCers

So in comparison to the boards at the price ranges I would say that if you are going to overclock.. its a big gamble with MSI compared to like priced boards
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i should add HIGH oc's although theres been 1-2 that got up to 5ghz on the GD80.. but its fine line that is tempting on the voltage threshold in order to counteract the vDroop and the that only seems to get worse the more voltage that you push.. Im saying in comparision for cheaper price the UD3 oc's well compared to the GD65 and the UD3 is 20 bucks cheaper.. The GD80 is the same price as the UD5 and depending on the deal Sabers and M599's both have been confirmed to be better OCers
So in comparison to the boards at the price ranges I would say that if you are going to overclock.. its a big gamble with MSI compared to like priced boards

It could also be that you have a crappy power supply, Compiling a operating system with 16 threads at 4.2 ghz, ain't a snooze of a workload.

check your power supply, I bet its buckling under load.
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It could also be that you have a crappy power supply, Compiling a operating system with 16 threads at 4.2 ghz, ain't a snooze of a workload.
check your power supply, I bet its buckling under load.

Not sure if the power supply comment was pointed at me or not but whats the best way to check for anything faulty? I know that can't be the case on a pure power/quality basis since I have a tank of a PS. If there is something wrong with it, that's another story.
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I'm really annoyed with my GD80 not having LLC and not having any option to increase CPU voltage past 1.44v. Stuck at 4.3 with a nasty vdroop that drops me down to 1.4v during testing. I know the MSI control center is there and can take the voltages above and beyond but I'm a little uneasy software overclocking. Point in fact... I just updated Control Center and it started me off with the multi-option at 35x(!!!) for some unknown reason. God forbid I would have hit "apply" before checking the default values. Who knows what would have happened.

The only thing that would have happened is a broken OC or BSOD , restart and reset smile.gif



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Thanks , mine is a 1235 batch
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Batch 1236.

I have had two from 1237. and so far thats all i have seen '35, '36, and '37. anyone else have another batch?

1229 here
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Not sure if the power supply comment was pointed at me or not but whats the best way to check for anything faulty? I know that can't be the case on a pure power/quality basis since I have a tank of a PS. If there is something wrong with it, that's another story.

Run OCCT stress test . It will generate charts at the end of the run including your PSU rails. You can have a look at the amount of ripple you have happening.
**** Sometimes the voltages are not correct, but the line it generates will be accurate as far as fluctuation. ******
http://www.ocbase.com/

***assuming you don't have a DVOM on hand as Collins points out.
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I'm really annoyed with my GD80 not having LLC and not having any option to increase CPU voltage past 1.44v. Stuck at 4.3 with a nasty vdroop that drops me down to 1.4v during testing. I know the MSI control center is there and can take the voltages above and beyond but I'm a little uneasy software overclocking. Point in fact... I just updated Control Center and it started me off with the multi-option at 35x(!!!) for some unknown reason. God forbid I would have hit "apply" before checking the default values. Who knows what would have happened.

Control Center is also reading I'm only putting out 1.424v instead of the 1.44v its says in BIOS. CPU-Z says 1.432v. It makes it all the more annoying that with my watercooling setup, I'm maxing out at like 33­°C during IBT... mad.gif
You have no reason to fear overclocking using software rather than bios. I've been using MSI's overclocking utilities since 2003 across socket A ,754,939, AM2+ , AM3 and AM3+ platforms and have never hurt any hardware along the way. It's important not to blend bios overclocking with software overclocking, that's where you can get into trouble with these programs as it will give false values. It is however always best to double check ALL settings in a software overclock before applying them, just as you should in bios. It's so much faster and easier to find a good overclock using software , it's hard for me to understand any bias against it. There is only a few settings in bios that I would change from default in bios, turn off CNQ , active phase switching, and turbo functions.

In my opinion you should be able to get at least 4.8 ghz stable ( set voltage in control center at 1.53 and you should be fine at that clock, it will drop to 1.46 at 100% load) with the equipment you have , the only reason you haven't gotten a bigger overclock is your own unwillingness to use the tools that MSI has given you. The board is more than capable , if you are willing to use the software. The lack of LLC means that you will have to compensate for it in your voltage setting in control center. It's as simple as that smile.gif . Good luck
EDIT: I thought you had the 8350 , sorry, with that in mind 4.6 ghz at the voltage above would be my best guess as a realistic goal.
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Not sure if the power supply comment was pointed at me or not but whats the best way to check for anything faulty? I know that can't be the case on a pure power/quality basis since I have a tank of a PS. If there is something wrong with it, that's another story.

Everybody makes lemons, PSU's wear out. Have it test, and a good high quality DVOM should be sufficient.
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Run OCCT stress test . It will generate charts at the end of the run including your PSU rails. You can have a look at the amount of ripple you have happening.
**** Sometimes the voltages are not correct, but the line it generates will be accurate as far as fluctuation. ******
http://www.ocbase.com/
***assuming you don't have a DVOM on hand as Collins points out.

Downloading it now. Thanks.


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You have no reason to fear overclocking using software rather than bios. I've been using MSI's overclocking utilities since 2003 across socket A ,754,939, AM2+ , AM3 and AM3+ platforms and have never hurt any hardware along the way. It's important not to blend bios overclocking with software overclocking, that's where you can get into trouble with these programs as it will give false values. It is however always best to double check ALL settings in a software overclock before applying them, just as you should in bios. It's so much faster and easier to find a good overclock using software , it's hard for me to understand any bias against it. There is only a few settings in bios that I would change from default in bios, turn off CNQ , active phase switching, and turbo functions.
In my opinion you should be able to get at least 4.8 ghz stable ( set voltage in control center at 1.53 and you should be fine at that clock, it will drop to 1.46 at 100% load) with the equipment you have , the only reason you haven't gotten a bigger overclock is your own unwillingness to use the tools that MSI has given you. The board is more than capable , if you are willing to use the software. The lack of LLC means that you will have to compensate for it in your voltage setting in control center. It's as simple as that smile.gif . Good luck
EDIT: I thought you had the 8350 , sorry, with that in mind 4.6 ghz at the voltage above would be my best guess as a realistic goal.

I'm obviously new to software overclocking. So should I go in to BIOS and just default everything before starting in with the software? Also, when applied or saved.. does the overclock just load on startup or do you have to load and apply the settings in the Control Center everytime?
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i over clocked to 4.6 using AMD Over drive but when i ran 3DmarkVantage i got some horrible results.... http://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/4417907
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Downloading it now. Thanks.
I'm obviously new to software overclocking. So should I go in to BIOS and just default everything before starting in with the software? Also, when applied or saved.. does the overclock just load on startup or do you have to load and apply the settings in the Control Center everytime?[/quote]
It's understandable that you would be a little apprehensive about software clocking if you are new to it, probably wise to be cautious.
My suggestion is to go to bios, set everything to default , I believe you can do this by pressing F6. Then as I said in the other post disable turbo functions, active phase switching and cool and quiet. Might as well disable the OC genie function as well while you are there. Everything else should be auto for now. If you want , you can save this bios configuration in one of the profiles in bios using a usb thumb drive. This will come in handy if you have to clear cmos in the future and want to quickly restore the same values in bios as a starting point.

Once you have done this press f10 to save those settings and exit bios. Once it boots up open cpuid, and a temperature monitoring program before even opening control center.
Look over the values that those programs are giving you , if everything looks ok proceed to open control center and start with minor bumps in voltage and multiplier.
I have an 8350 and the default voltage to the cpu is 1.28 which is enough to run it at 4 ghz under normal conditions, but is not enough to run all 8 cores at 100% load. I have tested this many times and at that speed and voltage he v drop is about . 03 volts. This is enough to cause worker errors in prime 95. I have found that bumping the voltage to 1.31 in control center allows it to run prime stably indefinitely at that speed. I write this because i want you to gain an understanding of the board's v drop and it's effects and how to compensate for them.
As you go up in speed and voltage the vdrop will increase to a maximum of .07 volts at values above 1.5 volts in control center and at speeds above 4.7 ghz at 100% load on all cores. However, after the initial drop, mine stays very steady. You have nearly the same powersupply that I do , so I would expect similar performance. I have been able to run prime at 4.5 ghz with a setting of 1.47 in control center. I would expect your 8320 to hit 4.3. I guess we will learn along the way, just go slow, make small adjustments in voltage and multiplier and watch your temps. But you have a very nice cooling setup so I don't expect that to limit you.
I wouldn't recommend going above 1.55 volts in control center unless you are willing to risk harming your equipment, I have went much higher , but I've done so at my own peril.
Good luck and if you have any other questions , just let me know. smile.gif
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Hello everyone,

Just adding myself to the owners thread. I've recently bought an FX-8320 (1236 batch). Stock VID is 1.4, currently running at 4.2 (21x200) and 1.375 vcore, though I didn't have much time to play with it since I've bought it. Prime95 27.7 was stable for a bit over half an hour, will do more stressing once I get the time. v25 was throwing errors even at stock, but from what I've read here that's not new.

I did also boot it up (and actually installed windows at those settings) with 4500 (22.5*200) at stock vcore (1.4) but didn't stress test it at all. My load temps are somewhere around 52-54C on the Core Temp and 62-64C on the socket temp, guess that's pretty normal? MB temps are around 52-54C. Goes up to 56C core and 70C socket if voltages are near 1.45, but then again my FZ-120 which used to cool my unlocked 720be is doing a decent job considering...

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