Originally Posted by Minotaurtoo
I wholeheartedly agree! I once had a MSI 970A-G45 that I tried to overclock an 8150 on... it actually did quite well.... till it burnt... managed to get 5ghz "turbo" and 4.5 base to run... never tested it though as I knew the board wouldn't hold up.... well one day I forgot to downclock after playing around with some random attempt.... and it came on automatically at night... and burnt lol... oh well... took my cpu with it... that's when I went and got my saberkitty... no problems since...
Well, there is a reason why the Sabertooth costs twice the 970 extreme3... Unfortunately, the 970extreme3 was launched together with Bulldozer launch and users were over-optimistic about it. If you visit many european enthusiast fora, it was no1 recommendation for someone who wanted "budget motherboard to game on". Users would say "it's a fine board, i am at 4.4Ghz, i am at 4.5", "it's 4+1 but good quality". The same people, if you visit the same fora today, recommend to stay away from it, because in the meantime, they 've learnt more about FX and power demands... But, it was selling a LOT. It was the best bang for buck 970 motherboard, packed with features. Here in some online shops that show realtime availability in numbers, you could see their numbers decline by double digits in a few days. It was like "assault on 970extreme3". Even in the US, i remember it had 4 out of 5 stars in Newegg and "user's choice award" or whatever they call it. Heck, i bought 4 of R1.0 and 1 of R2.0.
Today, things are different, for a less than 10 euros difference, you can get the Gigabyte 970 UD3P, but back then, it was the "go to motherboard" for lots of people. And frankly, for a non gamer and even more, for an undervolter, it's a fine motherboard. But, you know how it is. Just because you can push something to the limit and extract an 4.4Ghz clock, doesn't mean it's GOOD for it, when it wasn't made for such stress. It's like "let's see if this board can live to the edge of its capacity". Yes, it can live, the question is, for how long. Most smokers, won't have lung cancer in their lives. Only a 15-20% will. But this is a meagre consolation to those that will have it. The same goes for motherboards. "But my friend Joe is at 4.4Ghz with no problem". Yeah, but you can be in the unlucky minority, that will have mobo blow up and if it's MSI you have even bigger chances it will take the CPU out with it when it does. This Asrock model had 7% failure rate. Great, more likely than not, you will not have failure (93%). But if you do, it will be a meagre consolation. And another reason of failure, is that people buy these ASrock/MSI cheap boards or some even cheaper 3 phase boards and listen to others "70C is the limit on the core" and go on and crank it all the way, socket is boiling. A human being gets 3rd degree burn after a few seconds at 60C, what makes you think your cheap motherboard with thin PCB is enjoying running 24/7 at over 60C at the socket and hence probably around 100C at the mosfets? And if the mobo dies, ok, not so big. But if it decides to take in the grave some other components that sit on it, then it's more of a big deal.
One must not buy according to what the Joe next door says, but after evaluating his needs and fork the cash for an adeguate component that fits said needs. Especially when it comes down to motherboards and power supplies, as both these can take out a variety of other components. There is nothing wrong with going cheap, if you don't need something powerful. But if you go cheap, don't try pushing to the limits.Edited by Undervolter - 10/16/14 at 3:20am