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hello,
on no new releases from amd till 2016, do you think they will make a 9xxx chip on the lower tdp? thinking 9590E ?
    
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Originally Posted by MrPerforations View Post

hello,
on no new releases from amd till 2016, do you think they will make a 9xxx chip on the lower tdp? thinking 9590E ?

The 8370 already does higher clocks than the 8350 and fills in the gaps between 8350 and 9370.

They could release a 140w version of the 9370 I guess, but as it wouldn't change which motherboard you need to handle it well so the point would be moot.

Anything is possible, but Piledriver is Piledriver. You can just OC or undervolt to get the exact chip you want anyway.
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post #41423 of 67694
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Originally Posted by ObscureParadox View Post

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Ya it's like learning to OC all over again. Could bench at 6.0 with just 1.6v, everything acted different and keeping enough LN2 on the CPU was a full time job. That stuff disappears pretty quickly.

Just make sure that the LN2 pot is kept full all the time since the CPU can handle as much cold as you can throw at it. Also you can bench that chip with at least 1.8v if you're keeping a full pot with no sort of issues. Look to get around the 7GHz mark for Cinebench R15 stable smile.gif

Here's some of the results I got last time I took my FX-8350 for a spin ;







I know it can take the volts , I was just having a h**l of a time getting R15 to run. Even with lots of volts it would just lock up me. It only seemed to run even at lower speeds if the voltage was just right. Slightly too much and lock up again. I have to say it was frustrating. I leared real quick to try and keep the pot full less violent that way. There'll be a next time though and hopefully better luck. I'm wondering now if I had some moisture in one of my ram slots. The bios blew out for no apparent reason then once I was up again I just kept getting all sorts of weird start up issues etc... Swap out SSDs and still same issues. I've had up to 1.8v into it before and not too afraid to go higher at those temps it just seemed like nothing was helping to stabilize things. Tried CPU_NB up to 1.5v VDDA at 2.7 etc... I'm hoping it was just some moisture in the wrong cranny and not the CPU.
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post #41424 of 67694
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Ya it's like learning to OC all over again. Could bench at 6.0 with just 1.6v, everything acted different and keeping enough LN2 on the CPU was a full time job. That stuff disappears pretty quickly.

Just make sure that the LN2 pot is kept full all the time since the CPU can handle as much cold as you can throw at it. Also you can bench that chip with at least 1.8v if you're keeping a full pot with no sort of issues. Look to get around the 7GHz mark for Cinebench R15 stable smile.gif

Here's some of the results I got last time I took my FX-8350 for a spin ;




I know it can take the volts , I was just having a h**l of a time getting R15 to run. Even with lots of volts it would just lock up me. It only seemed to run even at lower speeds if the voltage was just right. Slightly too much and lock up again. I have to say it was frustrating. I leared real quick to try and keep the pot full less violent that way. There'll be a next time though and hopefully better luck. I'm wondering now if I had some moisture in one of my ram slots. The bios blew out for no apparent reason then once I was up again I just kept getting all sorts of weird start up issues etc... Swap out SSDs and still same issues. I've had up to 1.8v into it before and not too afraid to go higher at those temps it just seemed like nothing was helping to stabilize things. Tried CPU_NB up to 1.5v VDDA at 2.7 etc... I'm hoping it was just some moisture in the wrong cranny and not the CPU.

Looks like fun to me, but also a little nerve wracking - did you have the CHV in LN2 mode?
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The 8370 already does higher clocks than the 8350 and fills in the gaps between 8350 and 9370.

They could release a 140w version of the 9370 I guess, but as it wouldn't change which motherboard you need to handle it well so the point would be moot.

Anything is possible, but Piledriver is Piledriver. You can just OC or undervolt to get the exact chip you want anyway.

The only thing I can say there... is that some of the lower chips might not actually reach the higher clocks... they might... might not... my old 8350 wouldn't even stabilize @ 5ghz with 1.62 v enough to pass 3 runs of IBT AVX on standard... but this 9590 will pass 10 runs on very high at only 1.45 in bios, but with ultra high LLC max volts reach 1.472 v.... but most chips I've seen will actually stabilize at 5ghz with some level of voltage if cooling is good enough... just my old one would only hit 4.8 stable and that took 1.54v
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anyone got any good gains from FSB overclocking alongside standard overclocking on an 8320?

Not a true overclock (stock cooler as I am still thinking what sort of cooling i will use,leaning towards a big CLC unit) but I've been toying around 4/4.1GHz .I get slightly higher minimums in wow with FSB but otherwise it feels the same.
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Ya I tried it both ways on and off. Something was a bit off right from the start though. I had SSD with 3 OSs cloned so I could swap them out. I was also trying to use ROG connect at first. It worked just fine before I had the pot on but after I couldn't get the OS to register any multi changes. CPUz would only register FSB adjustments. I mean I would change the multi on the laptop but CPU-z didn't change so I didn't know if it was going up and not showing or just not working. After messing with that for about an hour with two different SSDs I just uninstalled it and used AIsuite. I did have the CPU up over 7.5 just don't know if I validated and which SSD it might be on. After things started getting weird I shut it down. That's where I went wrong with my first DICE attempt and lost a board and 2 CPUs. Pretty sure it all survived this time. CHV-z is still drying out so I'll know in a day or two.
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I currently have enough money for either the

a) AMD 8350 + Asus sabertooth/ gigabyte 990fx ud3 revision 4

or save up for option b

b) i7 4790k with a z97 mainboard

The main tasks I will use the pc for are gaming in World of warcraft, streaming and video processing after raids. Having used the misses old i5 rendering in vegas was quite slow with huge cpu usage and rendered the system useless until the processing was finished.
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Not a true overclock (stock cooler as I am still thinking what sort of cooling i will use,leaning towards a big CLC unit) but I've been toying around 4/4.1GHz .I get slightly higher minimums in wow with FSB but otherwise it feels the same.

if im honest it'll really be more of a gloating thing XD 4.2 is fine for my needs just 4.5 may be the nicer one if im honest
 
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I currently have enough money for either the

a) AMD 8350 + Asus sabertooth/ gigabyte 990fx ud3 revision 4

or save up for option b

b) i7 4790k with a z97 mainboard

The main tasks I will use the pc for are gaming in World of warcraft, streaming and video processing after raids. Having used the misses old i5 rendering in vegas was quite slow with huge cpu usage and rendered the system useless until the processing was finished.

I am using the 8320 for WoW and game footage recording too.

This dude gets a minimum of around 34 fps outside shrine with a 4770k at 4.4 or somewhat less,according to his description. In that spot with my 8320 at 4.1Ghz,also at ultra I get 33Fps minimum equally crowded, with the 7870XT . With the 3770 (stock ofc) i drop in the 20s but that has a weak quadro. This game has a terrible engine,and it will run like a dog .no matter what the cpu. That said, both the i7 and the 8350 will raid and stream quite well.
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